And the Republican nominee will be......

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:23 am

Surely the DNC isn't dumb enough to trot out Hillary.

That would be the only way the 2 idiots from the GOP have a chance.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:07 am

Clintoon beating almost anyone would merely be a testament (as if any more is needed[/Barryx2] to the idiocy of the Amerikan sheeple.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:59 am

Jsc wrote:It is way way early...

Yep.
In many polls, D. Trump was the leading potential republican back in spring of '11.

Clintoon has name-recongition, so she is polling well.

"Oh... I've heard that name. *burp*. She's a Democrat? Yeah, I'd vote for her."

Anyone rolling out the names Bush and Clinton should be laffed off the earth.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:06 am

Jsc810 wrote:Clinton beats every Republican head to head.

That's nothing to celebrate.

Carson · Post by **Carson** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:56 am

Jeb Bush won't even carry the state he governed.

At least Scott Walker is battle tested.

I think Marc Rubio is who the Rs should run to have any kind of chance on the left coast.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:39 pm

The only rep with a shot on the left coast is one with strong libertarian leanings like rand Paul but, it seems that the republican machine doesn't want to touch him. I hope that changes

H4ever · Post by **H4ever** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:34 pm

I don't know when in the fuck Republican voters (at least middle-class/working class ones) are gonna realize the plutocrat cock-sucking criminal candidates trotted out each election are hell-bent, and have proven for the last 20 some odd years as POTUS and in nearly every congressional seat, that they want to fuck the middle class and working poor.

Trickle down..... give it the fuck up. And get the fuck out of the party. How do you think people like Barry and Hilary get elected? But go ahead and fist-fuck yourselves some more and the sad part is your plots/policies are being exposed. Goodnight Irene.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:55 pm

I don't care who gets the nod as long as they can beat that cunt Shillary.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:03 am

H4ever wrote:I don't know when in the fuck Republican voters (at least middle-class/working class ones) are gonna realize the plutocrat cock-sucking criminal candidates trotted out each election are hell-bent, and have proven for the last 20 some odd years as POTUS and in nearly every congressional seat, that they want to fuck the middle class and working poor.

Trickle down..... give it the fuck up. And get the fuck out of the party. How do you think people like Barry and Hilary get elected? But go ahead and fist-fuck yourselves some more and the sad part is your plots/policies are being exposed. Goodnight Irene.

Rack it!

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:09 am

Tin Foil Ted has spoken.

I reckon the republic/infrastructure can withstand just about anything.

Our forefathers made damn sure of that.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:41 am

Rand Paul says stupid things and is utterly unpalatable to both the GOP establishment and any private sector group that depends on foreign intervention. He's toast, but he'll become an idol to the Randian wing of the party.

Trev's favorite fatty is toast. He will be hard pressed win a primary in his home state. If he does run he will be boat raced in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Palin, Perry, Huckabee and Token Negros 1 and 2 are all incapable of getting the resources needed to run a campaign in the post citizens united political landscape. TOAST.

That leaves the Koch candidate vs wannabe Bush 45. My bet is on the dynasty. Too bad for the University of Wisconsin. It is about to become very mediocre thanks to Walker's Presidential ambitions.

http://m.host.madison.com/news/local/ed ... touch=true

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:06 am

88 wrote:The D's and the R's have cooperated to game the citizens, who now work for them.

Power always consolidates when the masses are stupid or indifferent or scared or distracted or any combination there of. The power in the US has consolidated for all four reasons and isn't likely to change anytime soon. We had a chance in the 1800's to make a good 4-5 hundred year run until Lincoln (The dumbest President in history) fucked the whole thing up by not kicking the South to the curb and letting their dumbasses fend for themselves. Now only 200+ years past 1789 and we are sucking wind and have a five state wide cancer on our face.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:30 pm

88, Walker said to teach ONE MORE class, not tech more than one or two classes. Profs are paid salary. So what Walker is saying is he wants them to work more but not get paid more. Also, he wants more adjuncts and fewer tenured faculty. Not a good deal for students at all.

H4ever · Post by **H4ever** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:35 pm

88 wrote:That is a seriously intelligent take. You hate the R's so much, that you cast votes to elect idiot D's. No wonder this country is so fucked up.

What we really need is not a new and better R or D, but a strong dose of A. As in Alternative. Nothing will change until the corrupt two-party system is blown the fuck up and replaced with something far weaker. The D's and the R's have cooperated to game the citizens, who now work for them.

And if you think the D's give two shits about the "middle class and working poor", you should drop in to one of their $50,000 per plate fundraisers at Bab's house and listen to the Wall Street tycoons they serve mewl about how rotten the R's who serve the other Wall Street tycoons treat the middle class and the working poor. I'm sure it would break your heart.

I vote the lesser of two evils which is nearly impossible because, as you mention, they are nearly one and the same anymore. I would not be surprised to see a huge patriotic movements or protests of some sort yet in my lifetime that will shake this country to its core. ( and I'm not talking knuckle-dragger, tea-baggers parades the Koch bros serve cookies and lemonade to after)

Not that I wish for anarchy or no rule of law but something needs to happen that sends a crystal clear message/warning to washington and those who handle it. And I think that would be a good thing if the aspiring oligarchy and plutocrats everywhere were shaking in their gated communities like poodles awaiting a steel-toe boot upside their perfumed, curly-haired domes.

H4ever · Post by **H4ever** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:39 pm

BSmack wrote:88, Walker said to teach ONE MORE class, not tech more than one or two classes. Profs are paid salary. So what Walker is saying is he wants them to work more but not get paid more. Also, he wants more adjuncts and fewer tenured faculty. Not a good deal for students at all.

Just what this country needs.... a slave-master who thinks all should work more for less. Get the fuck back to the plantation or Chinese sweat shop you regrettable piece of maggot shit, Walker. Corporate cock-sucking sack of monkey shit.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:04 pm

H4ever wrote:

Just what this country needs.... a slave-master who thinks all should work more for less. Get the fuck back to the plantation or Chinese sweat shop you regrettable piece of maggot shit, Walker. Corporate cock-sucking sack of monkey shit.

Yeah, let's not do anything that would help hold college costs down and make a university degree more attainable for everyone. If minority leaders really cared about minorities they would support this proposal with everything they had.

H4ever · Post by **H4ever** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:55 pm

Left Seater wrote:
H4ever wrote:

Just what this country needs.... a slave-master who thinks all should work more for less. Get the fuck back to the plantation or Chinese sweat shop you regrettable piece of maggot shit, Walker. Corporate cock-sucking sack of monkey shit.
Yeah, let's not do anything that would help hold college costs down and make a university degree more attainable for everyone. If minority leaders really cared about minorities they would support this proposal with everything they had.

I laughed... yea, Walker gives two shits about anything beyond networking with the Plutocrats ...from his knees.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:11 pm

It might not be his motivation, but it would certainly be a result. Therefore everyone should support it unless they want to see college costs kept out of reach.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:46 pm

You think removing funding will decrease the cost to students? That is a real special kind of stupid.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:38 pm

Jsc810 wrote:Can we get just rid of gerrymandering? That way we would reduce the number of extremists in both parties, and that would be a good thing.

Fuck off, moron.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:41 pm

Gov. Scott Walker to UW faculty: Consider teaching one more class per semester wrote:Vince Sweeney, vice chancellor for university relations at UW-Madison, said the most recent survey data found Madison faculty spend 50 to 70 hours per week teaching and supporting students, participating in research and other activities.

50 to 70 hours, huh?

Pure bullshit.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:50 pm

mvscal wrote:
Jsc810 wrote:Can we get just rid of gerrymandering? That way we would reduce the number of extremists in both parties, and that would be a good thing.
Fuck off, moron.

Ofailure likes gerrymandering because some of the districts remind him of the cocks that inhabit his ass.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:29 pm

A full 1/4 at the University my dad taught at was 12 units of lecture and two units of lab. That's 18 hours a week of instruction. If you add a class it's about 5 more hours of instruction, depending on how much is lab. That would be a total of 23 hours of instruction. That leaves 5 fewer hours a week to prep for class and grade papers have office hours, and there is around 20% more prep and grading to do. Once you start getting beyond the 1-1 ratio of class to prep you are doing a disservice to the kids, at least in my book. There are better ways to save money. At least at Cal Poly.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:55 am

BSmack wrote:You think removing funding will decrease the cost to students? That is a real special kind of stupid.

I never said to remove any funding. I said if each prof taught one more class it would help hold the cost of attending down.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:59 am

88 wrote:
BSmack wrote:88, Walker said to teach ONE MORE class, not tech more than one or two classes. Profs are paid salary. So what Walker is saying is he wants them to work more but not get paid more. Also, he wants more adjuncts and fewer tenured faculty.
I can read. If it were the case that professors were overworked now, you might have a valid point. But, on average, they only spend about 350 to 450 hours in the classroom per year. If they taught another class, it isn't like they would be turned into sleepless zombies.

You are a shit eating moron if you think instruction time is all there is to being a professor.

88 wrote:
BSmack wrote:Not a good deal for students at all.
How so? The cost of an education is based, in part, on the salaries of the individuals who provide the educational services to the students. If the students have to pay fewer salaries to obtain their education, how is that not a good deal for students?

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The state is pulling 300 million in funding. They are not applying the difference to tuition or aid programs. Tuitions will likely go up to offset the loss in funding.

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:20 am

Nah, if any changes to the college/university system needs to be made, it would be that the institutionalized lib professors are given their pink slips and a hard kick in the ass as they exit the building. The PC bullshit that is being force fed to our youth in higher "education" is one of our country's major sources of trouble.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:30 am

Do tell.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:44 am

Left Seater wrote:I never said to remove any funding. I said if each prof taught one more class it would help hold the cost of attending down.

That's like a drop in the ocean. You know what would help keep the cost of attending down? Ending the ridiculous facilities arms race on campus, slashing the bloated number of garbage administrative positions on campus and returning proper state funding to colleges instead of this pathetic rate hovering around 10-20 percent. But go ahead, cut costs on the back of those liberal, unionized professors, and score those political points. We all know that's your goal here, don't pretend otherwise.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:46 am

BSmack wrote:You are a shit eating moron if you think instruction time is all there is to being a professor.

Left Shitter is also of the ilk that teachers work part time and get summers off.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:01 am

Screw_Michigan wrote:
BSmack wrote:You are a shit eating moron if you think instruction time is all there is to being a professor.
Left Shitter is also of the ilk that teachers work part time and get summers off.

He doesn't care.

He and his kind will educate their children at private institutions and let the rest of the lumpen proletariat "eat cake".
They are part of a delusional imaginary class of "new aristocrats" that have carved themselves out entirely from nebulous credit schemes. Fortunes and empires build upon nothing more real
than paper dolls cut from folded up pieces of paper.

Sometimes I have to be a good socialist, comrade...

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:07 am

The man has a mini stroke over giving candy to negros on Halloween. Expecting him to show empathy for the plight of poor and middle class students is like expecting the Queen Mary to take flight.

Dr_Phibes · Post by **Dr_Phibes** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:15 am

Let's not forget letting his wife decor the house in a bland, neutral tragedy.

Dr_Phibes · Post by **Dr_Phibes** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:12 am

Nor should they be, you're getting into murky territory. Learning depends on the subjects as well, applying an abstact mathematical formula to things that get subjective is a non-starter. Particularly when students are viewed as customers, rather than pupils.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:02 am

88 wrote:
BSmack wrote:You are a shit eating moron if you think instruction time is all there is to being a professor.
I am neither, but I do know the demands on professors. And I know that if professors were in a market economy, we wouldn't be having this discussion, because we would know their worth. But they have no interest in that.

A market economy...like McDonalds workers are in?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:08 pm

Or adjuncts.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:19 pm

Walker has frozen tuition until 2017, when he assumes he will be in the White House. At that point, UW's tuition take a significant jump. Walker's already getting pushback from his own party on his proposed budget.

One more thing to remember about Walker. The last US president without a college degree was Truman.

Carson · Post by **Carson** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:57 pm

Maybe Walker will nuke ISIS and do the world a favor.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:31 pm

Diego in Seattle wrote: A market economy...like McDonalds workers are in?

Precisely. Or were you expecting unskilled labor to command some sort of premium? If you want to make money flipping burgers, move to North Dakota...or fuck off with your whiny bullshit.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:55 pm

mvscal wrote:
Diego in Seattle wrote: A market economy...like McDonalds workers are in?
Precisely. Or were you expecting unskilled labor to command some sort of premium? If you want to make money flipping burgers, move to North Dakota...or fuck off with your whiny bullshit.

So slapdick is advocating minimum wage educators. Can't say myself or anyone else is surprised with mvsidiot's animosity towards the teaching profession, considering how they failed him so...

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:23 pm

mvscal wrote:Precisely. Or were you expecting unskilled labor to command some sort of premium? If you want to make money flipping burgers, move to North Dakota...or fuck off with your whiny bullshit.

You still think North Dakota is a boom town. How cute.