Alabama BBQ

The State · Post by **The State** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:08 pm

Alabama is a shithole.

What alabama really needs... is a salad with a side of brains.

http://stateofobesity.org/states/al/

http://mullingsgroup.com/ala-ranks-4th- ... r-obesity/

Roll tide !

X

Speaking of brains... does this place have a "cooking forum" ?

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:17 pm

'Q pretty much anywhere in the south is good. Had lots of it in Nashville in the time I was there. I have already discussed The Shed with Sam. That place is the only reason I could ever see going back to Mississippi. Great BBQ and live Blues.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:41 pm

Never been to KC, but have been to Memphis, NC, and Austin. Have to say that Austin had the best in my book. Memphis was just so-so, and NC outright sucked.

Y2K · Post by **Y2K** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:17 pm

Thanks for the heads up Sam..I'll schedule in The Brick Pit the last Saturday of May. I'll be testing out the BBQ cross the southern states and will most likely have a PET. Going to Black's in Loveland TX as well as Franklin's in Austin. I'll be on the I-10 from Jacksonville FLA to Santa Monica CA so if anyone has any suggestions throw them out there. No BBQ in Nawlins though that's gonna be Booze, seafood, and Po-Boys ...

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:33 pm

Papa Willie wrote:I'd rather be fat and fucking women than sucking dicks and dying of AIDS.

I'd rather be someone with more than those two options.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:53 pm

Y2K wrote:Thanks for the heads up Sam..I'll schedule in The Brick Pit the last Saturday of May. I'll be testing out the BBQ cross the southern states and will most likely have a PET. Going to Black's in Loveland TX as well as Franklin's in Austin. I'll be on the I-10 from Jacksonville FLA to Santa Monica CA so if anyone has any suggestions throw them out there. No BBQ in Nawlins though that's gonna be Booze, seafood, and Po-Boys ...

This is a pretty good source for finding food on the road.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Sun Apr 12, 2015 10:18 pm

Diego in Seattle wrote:...finding food on the road.

Roadkill?

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:13 am

Y2K wrote:Thanks for the heads up Sam..I'll schedule in The Brick Pit the last Saturday of May. I'll be testing out the BBQ cross the southern states and will most likely have a PET. Going to Black's in Loveland TX as well as Franklin's in Austin. I'll be on the I-10 from Jacksonville FLA to Santa Monica CA so if anyone has any suggestions throw them out there. No BBQ in Nawlins though that's gonna be Booze, seafood, and Po-Boys ...

Prolly just a typo, but Blacks is in Lockhart not Loveland. And if you are going to Lockhart to try Blacks might as well do your own taste test and hit Kruez Market as well.

Hit me up when you are in this neck of the woods and I'll buy you a beer or three.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:06 am

Papa Willie wrote:You're either fat, or you suck dicks.

Now I get why you lost all that weight.

Y2K · Post by **Y2K** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:17 am

Left Seater wrote:
Y2K wrote:Thanks for the heads up Sam..I'll schedule in The Brick Pit the last Saturday of May. I'll be testing out the BBQ cross the southern states and will most likely have a PET. Going to Black's in Loveland TX as well as Franklin's in Austin. I'll be on the I-10 from Jacksonville FLA to Santa Monica CA so if anyone has any suggestions throw them out there. No BBQ in Nawlins though that's gonna be Booze, seafood, and Po-Boys ...

Prolly just a typo, but Blacks is in Lockhart not Loveland. And if you are going to Lockhart to try Blacks might as well do your own taste test and hit Kruez Market as well.

Hit me up when you are in this neck of the woods and I'll buy you a beer or three.

Yep a typo..
I'll be in Texas on June 1, 2, and 3. coming down the 10.
Leaving New orleans on Sunday afternoon and getting as close to Houston as I can. I was looking at maybe Beaumont.

I have an invite to a ranch in Kerrville from one of our old Interweb friends from way back and headed that way via the hunt for the Q...
Kerrville looks like Tuesday, and you would be welcome to join us..good Texas fun
Firearm Friendly, Fishing, Bonfire, Beer....
What could possibly go wrong?

Drop me a PM

The State · Post by **The State** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:45 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
Papa Willie wrote:You're either fat, or you suck dicks.
Now I get why you lost all that weight.

Game over... too funny

The State · Post by **The State** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:29 am

Y2K wrote:
Yep a typo..
I'll be in Texas on June 1, 2, and 3. coming down the 10.
Leaving New orleans on Sunday afternoon and getting as close to Houston as I can. I was looking at maybe Beaumont.

Who in the fuck puts out an itinerary of their vacation 3 months a head of time... down to the day ???

I'll tell you who... AP's "babysitter" from the central valley of California. The last time this guy went on a "roadie" was when he had to go to the "east coast" and grab his mistake and take it home via a u-haul and a transgender note (sup, Bruce Jenner aka... AP)

Psst... look for an engine fire on your rig... right around "Fort Stockton" on your roadie during the summer in West Tejas.

Home For Sale: Stone Road Fort Stockton, Texas 79735

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tjOtqt3CmI

Leave "boots on the ground" road trips for the professionals (liberals)... that do it for a living.

Fox News... isn't going to be able to help you out there... my friend.

The State · Post by **The State** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:42 am

Y2K wrote:
I have an invite to a ranch in Kerrville from one of our old Interweb friends from way back and headed that way via the hunt for the Q...
Kerrville looks like Tuesday, and you would be welcome to join us..good Texas fun
Firearm Friendly, Fishing, Bonfire, Beer....
What could possibly go wrong?

Drop me a PM

Can't Stop Laughing... !!!

Kerrville is a HUGE artist and Ren Faire "community" ... and makes San Francisco look like Orange county.

Like I said, stay off the roads... and let the "Pro's" take care of traveling... "boots on the ground".

http://www.kerrville.org/index.aspx?nid=151

Too funny.

The State · Post by **The State** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:07 am

Papa Willie wrote:Melton -

You're a single 50 year old, never been married, lives in the fag capital of the world, and are delusional beyond repair. Understand your place in the food line, buddy...

Poor... "Porky".

Hasn't left it's trailer in 60 years.

I'll let you... live vicariously through my travels around the World.

The State · Post by **The State** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:29 pm

"Boots on the ground"

Best BBQ in the country... is off I-45 in Texas... near Centerville... with an old black man... who smokes his shit for 48 hours before he pulls...

You know who I am...

The State · Post by **The State** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:42 pm

Alabama is a shithole...

The only thing it's known for... is taking kids from out of state.. and playing football at a junior college (academically).

That, and extremely illiterate fat people.

Prove me... wrong.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:23 pm

Papa Willie wrote:California has more dumb, inbred, fucked up, ignorant, useless, gay people than any other state in the country. It has MORE people than any other state in the country, so this is fact.

Finally - California has YOU living in it, Melton. By default, that makes it the poorest choice of any state to live in.

get a few miles away from the coast and a good chunk of cali, pretty much is a dry alabama. I remember driving through some depressed shithole of a town on the oregon cali line which was every bit as fuct as any shithole in alabama

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:15 pm

smackaholic wrote: get a few miles away from the coast and a good chunk of cali, pretty much is a dry alabama. I remember driving through some depressed shithole of a town on the oregon cali line which was every bit as fuct as any shithole in alabama

How was the landscaping?

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:51 pm

The State wrote:Alabama is a shithole...

The only thing it's known for... is taking kids from out of state.. and playing football at a junior college (academically).

That, and extremely illiterate fat people.

Prove me... wrong.

You've already done that to yourself M. San Francisco may be known for many things, so many rightfully so, but bbq isn't out front and center. The best que comes from the south, end of discussion.

Sam, there are a good number of places here to choose from, but Stacey's is a little hole-in-the wall that looks frightening from outside, but the meats and sauce are ridiculous.

Original location, and yep it's purple.

His special Thanksgiving dinners are some of the best I've ever seen.

Y2K · Post by **Y2K** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:18 pm

That place looks pretty damn good, I should take a run over into Mesa and load up before we head out west into endless desert.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:24 pm

Y2K wrote:That place looks pretty damn good, I should take a run over into Mesa and load up before we head out west into endless desert.

Dude, Stacey cooks up some killer barbecue. He's been around for a while and has won the Best of Phoenix award for several years running. Not to pricey either, just solid grub.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:40 am

Jay in Phoenix wrote:The best que comes from the south, end of discussion.

You would get an argument from some folks here.

Never mind some of the BBQ mecca's here, and there are many. Too many to list but here's a few:

Arthur Bryant's
Gates
Jack Stack's
Joe's
Smokehouse

I've got friends, neighbors and co-workers who take their 'que as a religion. I get to sample their wares regularly because they are showoffs and like to brag... and share.

The most prestigious BBQ contest in the world is The American Royal.

KC hasn't earned it's title as The BBQ Capital of the universe by accident.

titlover · Post by **titlover** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:04 am

The Salt Lick outside of Austin.

Superb Q

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:20 pm

titlover wrote:The Salt Lick outside of Austin.

Superb Q

I can second that. It's out in Dripping Springs. Friend of mine's folks had a ranch out there and a stop at the Salt Lick was always in order for lunch before dropping acid and heading out to Hamilton pool and camping out on the range that night.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:30 pm

War Wagon wrote:
Jay in Phoenix wrote:The best que comes from the south, end of discussion.

You would get an argument from some folks here.

Never mind some of the BBQ mecca's here, and there are many.

Wags, you understandably misunderstood my point, as I view Kansas and Missouri as being technically South, even though they are really Central America states. No doubt that those two states represent with some amazing bar-be-cue. My point was really a counter to M2's idiot claim of San Francisco 'cue.

No need to roll your eyes, you guys have great representation.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:45 pm

Yep, Stacey is authentic and his place is certainly got that dive vibe on the outside. He has since opened a new location in a strip mall that is certainly clean and small, but thankfully the food remains the same. It's been a couple of years since I drove by the Indian School and 16th Street purple box, but I think it's gone now. That great smoker of his has survived though.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:08 pm

Jay in Phoenix wrote:You've already done that to yourself M. San Francisco may be known for many things, so many rightfully so, but bbq isn't out front and center. The best que comes from the south, end of discussion.

+1

No place with that many vegans is going to have decent BBQ.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:58 pm

Only a tard on the level of stoolio would try to argue cali being a BBQ destination.

The south rules BBQ. EOS.

And Sam is right. A BBQ joint outside appearance is inversely proportional to the 'Q quality. If the place looks like it should be condemned, it likely has good 'Q. If it looks well kept or worse yet, chain-like, they are spending their money in the wrong place.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:54 pm

smackaholic wrote:Only a tard on the level of stoolio would try to argue cali being a BBQ destination.

Such as it is, the best location for Cali 'Q is Santa Maria though it isn't technically BBQ.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:02 pm

I guess I'm going to a new Q place for lunch. I'll report back (if I feel like it). It's actually in Vancouver (Across the Creek in the Couv. Hope I don't get shanked by a tweeker).

The U&L has Q, some of it quite good. But it ain't like there's one on every corner -- you have to look for it (and oddly enough, most seem to be run by transplants from the South/KC).

In Southern Oregon, they take the Q pretty seriously. Just not enough of a population that it's on anyone's radar. But they take it pretty seriously, and use lots of madrone (we call it "madrona" in the northern part of the state), which is wonderful smoking wood. Not nearly so common up here, but I know a couple of spots where I can pluck some on an occasion.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:13 pm

Copper Top BBQ on 395 outside of Bishop is as good as any BBQ in the U.S. if not better.

And mvs is right. Santa Maria style BBQ is not BBQ. It's great but it's grilling.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:36 pm

Jay in Phoenix wrote:Wags, you understandably misunderstood my point, as I view Kansas and Missouri as being technically South...

I figured you were taking that angle but just because Mizzou joined the SEC doesn't mean we consider ourselves Southerners. No offense to the south, but we proudly consider ourselves as 'flyover' country and want to keep it that way.

And while I can grill a nice T-bone, in no way do I measure up to any of the folks I know who take their BBQ seriously. I don't even try and why should I? Not a week goes by that one of the boys at work doesn't bring in slabs of ribs or brisket where the meat falls of the bone and melts in your mouth.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:17 pm

Confederacy = South.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:21 pm

Missurah wasn't allowed to join the Confederacy. Big bad Abe Lincoln said I can't got for that. No can do.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:33 pm

The Great Oracle wrote:After war began in April, four states of the Upper South also declared their secession and joined the Confederacy. The Confederacy later accepted Missouri and Kentucky as members, although neither officially declared secession nor were they ever controlled by Confederate forces.

******************************

After the fighting began in April, four additional slave states seceded and were admitted. Later, two states (Missouri and Kentucky) and two territories were given seats in the Confederate Congress.

Close enough for government work.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:40 pm

My American history is admittedly weak, having spent my grade school years learning about Guy Fawkes and Anzac day.

http://www.yandtblog.com/?p=262

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:57 pm

Technically, the Rednezvous in Memphis is not doing barbecue either.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:13 pm

schmick wrote: What I consider BBQ is pork ribs or a beef brisket thats sat in a smoker and comes with a nice sauce.

Anything that sat in a smoker is BBQ and, if you ask for sauce on your brisket in central Texas, you'll get punched in the face. Texas brisket is salt, pepper and smoke.

Get fucked · Post by **Get fucked** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:23 pm

mvscal wrote:
schmick wrote: What I consider BBQ is pork ribs or a beef brisket thats sat in a smoker and comes with a nice sauce.
Anything that sat in a smoker is BBQ and, if you ask for sauce on your brisket in central Texas, you'll get punched in the face. Texas brisket is salt, pepper and smoke.

Mirriam-Webster

Full Definition of BARBECUE
transitive verb

1 to roast or broil on a rack or revolving spit over or before a source of heat (as hot coals)

2 to cook in a highly seasoned vinegar sauce

Wiki

generally accepted difference between barbecue and grilling is in the cooking time and type of heat used: grilling is generally done "hot and fast" over direct heat from low-smoke fuels (with the flame contacting the meat itself), while barbecuing is usually done "low and slow" over indirect heat from high-smoke fuels (with the flame not contacting the meat directly).[citation needed]

And the winner is . . .

There are many legitimate definitions, verb, noun, and adjective. There is even a legal definition. One definition just will not do the job. When you cut through the haze, ultimately, it is smoke that differentiates barbecue from other types of cooking. The fact is that there are many forms of barbecue around the world and it is the presence of smoke that unifies them all.

So mvs is not full of shit. This time.

titlover · Post by **titlover** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:11 am

mvscal wrote:
titlover wrote:The Salt Lick outside of Austin.

Superb Q
I can second that. It's out in Dripping Springs. Friend of mine's folks had a ranch out there and a stop at the Salt Lick was always in order for lunch before dropping acid and heading out to Hamilton pool and camping out on the range that night.

You don't seem like the type that would do acid