Fires in Napa/Sonoma and beyond

[Mikey]

After seeing a number of people threaten. Oddly harm to one another on an HVAC message board, I always make sure I say "water heater".

"Oddly harm?" Sounds pretty drastic. Or maybe you just have fat thumbs?

BTW...you'd better know the difference between a storage water heater, a point of use tankless water heater and a whole house tankless water heater, or you might get some oddly arms.

[Derron]

Starts out "I have" and then turns into a whole bunch of "will have" and "I'm gonna"....

Very perceptive on your part. It is called planning and preparing. It is what you have to do when you live in the arid high desert and have to fend for yourself. A novel idea a lot of people have no fucking clue about.

While your basket of IPA's sounds delightful and all, you clearly haven't given any thought to air quality. You'll either have a mask covering your face or you'll be inside your compound stuffing wet rags in every tiny crack (Bathroom fans, kitchen fans, door jams, etc) trying to stay stay out of that hot stuffy mask.

Fucking hilarious. Since Dins already schooled you on proper fire and smoke behavior for people unafraid to be outside in smokey conditions, I will defer my comments here.

The fire was never closer than 4 miles to me and the air quality was unbearable outside,

So what did you do ?? Run for the closest clear air safe space ?? Most of us just kept going to work, or to the golf course or doing whatever the fuck we normally do. In Sisters Oregon in August, most days the sun was a mere point in the sky. We loaded up our kayaks and went fishing in a lake at 6,000 feet slightly above the smoke.

I can not fathom how much it would suck being right on a fire line.

Of course you can't. That is why there are people who take care of that firefighting shit while you hide inside and stuff rags in your crack to keep smoke from coming in. I have been on hundreds of wildfires in my younger days as a firefighter and now as a professional photographer I am still on fire scenes all the time. The smoke can be annoying, but certainly not lethal.

[Derron]

Go ahead, sit in front of the fire and drink beer then, don't cry to me about your cancer.

After 60 years on this earth, smoking cigs for 10 years between 20 and 30, being a full time firefighter for that same 10 years, smoking about 5,000 bowls of dope, and drinking 2,000 bottles of beer around a campfire, and heading for a couple days in elk camp next week, where no doubt there will be campfires, and more than a few bowls of weed,and a lot of beer, still no sign of any lung problems . Life is good.

[Derron]

When we had some big fires around here in 2007 I looked at my pool, which holds about 36,000 gallons, and thought this isn't going to be of much use in case of a fire. So I went out and bought a 7.5 HP gas powered pump just in case it happens again. It hasn't...so far. The fire department around here also keeps tabs on where the pools are.

Good call on the pump. A lot of people around here have done that. Drop the suction line in the pool and you can stand off a lot of fire. Add foam injection and it goes a lot farther. After watching some of the videos of the Anaheim Hills last week, it could save a lot of homes.

We had the locations of every swimming pools and ponds, plus drafting points in our map books in every ENGINE. I pulled up to more than one pool and dropped the suction line in and drained them. We even went back and refilled them after the fire was out.

[Left Seater]

Then let Texass secede & have Gov. AButt pay for their disaster. Same w/ Gov. Rick Scum.

Check your spreadsheet. Cali is making all the noise about leaving.

No they're not. Some non-California born asshole who moved to Russia is making all the noise. He doesn't speak for anybody here.

So the 100,000 supporters, 7000 volunteers and 1200 donors must all live in Russia as well huh?

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

I've always been under the impression that California was a destination folks ended up in...after washing out some place else.
Like handing a bag of magic beans to transient dead-enders, with the promise of a beanstalk ride to prosperity.


That's the "American Dream", right? Everyone has a shot at winning the lottery. Just buy a ticket...it could be you...because providence knows no boundary of class or status.

[Mikey]

So the 100,000 supporters, 7000 volunteers and 1200 donors must all live in Russia as well huh?

100,000 supporters? That’s pretty damn impressive. Assuming that’s not fake news, and they all actually live in California, that’s about 0.2% of the population. I’d say they’re almost there.

[Left Seater]

Well the numbers came from NBC so decent chance they are unreliable.

[Moving Sale]

So the 100,000 supporters, 7000 volunteers and 1200 donors must all live in Russia as well huh?

100,000 supporters? That’s pretty damn impressive. Assuming that’s not fake news, and they all actually live in California, that’s about 0.2% of the population. I’d say they’re almost there.

Nailed it. But it is more than (twice) the number of Americans nationwide who identify as alt-right.

How many identify as racists?

[Mikey]

So the 100,000 supporters, 7000 volunteers and 1200 donors must all live in Russia as well huh?

100,000 supporters? That’s pretty damn impressive. Assuming that’s not fake news, and they all actually live in California, that’s about 0.2% of the population. I’d say they’re almost there.

Nailed it. But it is more than (twice) the number of Americans nationwide who identify as alt-right.

Seriously? I read somewhere that Alex Jones has a radio audience of around 2 million per week. Maybe most of them are liberals tuning in to see what the enemy is up to.

[Mikey]

:?

[Moving Sale]

88,
You are a fucking moron.

[Derron]

88,
You are a fucking moron.

Do you have other supporting criticisms of him to support this allegation ??

Check with your boy Diego to learn more.

[Moving Sale]

88,
You are a fucking moron.

It’s called math. You will probably hear about it in a few years.

His point was that 2million is a lot more than 50k so there are probably a lot of altrighttards that won't admit it. It's called following the conversation you stupid orange fuck.

[smackaholic]

Can one of you libtards explain to me, just WTF is alt-right?

Wasn't long ago, you labeled us plain old right. Then you realized that an awfully big chunk of the country identified itself as such, so you needed something new. First neo-con, but apparently that didn't work either so it is now alt-right.

As for that moron on the radio, I doubt his numbers are actually that good. Maybe 2 million have listened to him one or twice, but I doubt his regular audience is anything close. And I suspect most of those aren't necessarily left or right, just anti-establishment in general.

[Mikey]

“Libtards” didn’t come up with that term. Try to follow along a little better OK?

[bigredretard]

Anyone else hope the fire spreads to MsCJ's keyboard?

[MsCJ]

Can one of you libtards explain to me, just WTF is alt-right?

Wasn't long ago, you labeled us plain old right. Then you realized that an awfully big chunk of the country identified itself as such, so you needed something new. First neo-con, but apparently that didn't work either so it is now alt-right.

As for that moron on the radio, I doubt his numbers are actually that good. Maybe 2 million have listened to him one or twice, but I doubt his regular audience is anything close. And I suspect most of those aren't necessarily left or right, just anti-establishment in general.

Let me explain it this way, under the liberal tent you have the union folks, the tree huggers, the SJWs, the Baptists and Jews, druggies and the true economic conservatives (the people that believe in taxes and all the good things a solid tax base pays for)

Under the Republican tent there are the rest of the Bible Thumpers, the gun nuts, the neo cons (people that prefer increases in military intervention), the alt-right (Nazi wannabes), and fake economic conservatives that want to bankrupt the government by not paying taxes.

HTH

[bigredretard]

Can one of you libtards explain to me, just WTF is alt-right?

Wasn't long ago, you labeled us plain old right. Then you realized that an awfully big chunk of the country identified itself as such, so you needed something new. First neo-con, but apparently that didn't work either so it is now alt-right.

As for that moron on the radio, I doubt his numbers are actually that good. Maybe 2 million have listened to him one or twice, but I doubt his regular audience is anything close. And I suspect most of those aren't necessarily left or right, just anti-establishment in general.

Let me explain it this way, under the liberal tent you have the union folks, the tree huggers, the SJWs, the Baptists and Jews, druggies and the true economic conservatives (the people that believe in taxes and all the good things a solid tax base pays for)

Under the Republican tent there are the rest of the Bible Thumpers, the gun nuts, the neo cons (people that prefer increases in military intervention), the alt-right (Nazi wannabes), and fake economic conservatives that want to bankrupt the government by not paying taxes.

HTH

Fake news cunt.

[MsCJ]

“Libtards” didn’t come up with that term. Try to follow along a little better OK?

Richard Spender did and he's not on my team.

[bigredretard]

Now I wish the fire would spread to MsCuntJ's face.

[Moving Sale]

Can one of you libtards explain to me, just WTF is alt-right?

HTH

Fake news cunt.

And there is the thinking that brought us the orangepedobear. #thebrownshirtedtard

[Moving Sale]

Now I wish the fire would spread to MsCuntJ's face.

Stupid? Check
Right wing wingnut? Check
Internet tuff guy? Check

[Moving Sale]

http://www.thetrolls.net/phpbb/viewtopi ... 5560a3aa9d

Great job you fucking tards. It was a small fire in a homeless camp. Funny how the people who bitch the most about fake news perpetuate it the most.

Well no it's not funny so much as the mental disease of projection.

[Mikey]

There's a reason why you take a red pill to learn the truth as opposed to a blue pill to continue living the lies

Perfect example of how logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead.

[Derron]

the true economic conservatives (the people that believe in taxes and all the good things a solid tax base pays for)

Smokin a lot of crack these days I see.

[bigredretard]

the true economic conservatives (the people that believe in taxes and all the good things a solid tax base pays for)

Smokin a lot of crack these days I see.

And blowing a lot of johns.

[Rooster]

Can one of you libtards explain to me, just WTF is alt-right?

Wasn't long ago, you labeled us plain old right. Then you realized that an awfully big chunk of the country identified itself as such, so you needed something new. First neo-con, but apparently that didn't work either so it is now alt-right.

As for that moron on the radio, I doubt his numbers are actually that good. Maybe 2 million have listened to him one or twice, but I doubt his regular audience is anything close. And I suspect most of those aren't necessarily left or right, just anti-establishment in general.

Let me explain it this way, under the liberal tent you have the union folks, the tree huggers, the SJWs, the Baptists and Jews, druggies and the true economic conservatives (the people that believe in taxes and all the good things a solid tax base pays for)

Under the Republican tent there are the rest of the Bible Thumpers, the gun nuts, the neo cons (people that prefer increases in military intervention), the alt-right (Nazi wannabes), and fake economic conservatives that want to bankrupt the government by not paying taxes.

HTH

So to be clear, in your estimation the alt-right are only Nazi wannabes or are they anyone who is an actual Nazi? Because if it’s the latter, those are far and few between 72 years after WW2.

[Mikey]

Can one of you libtards explain to me, just WTF is alt-right?

Wasn't long ago, you labeled us plain old right. Then you realized that an awfully big chunk of the country identified itself as such, so you needed something new. First neo-con, but apparently that didn't work either so it is now alt-right.

As for that moron on the radio, I doubt his numbers are actually that good. Maybe 2 million have listened to him one or twice, but I doubt his regular audience is anything close. And I suspect most of those aren't necessarily left or right, just anti-establishment in general.

Let me explain it this way, under the liberal tent you have the union folks, the tree huggers, the SJWs, the Baptists and Jews, druggies and the true economic conservatives (the people that believe in taxes and all the good things a solid tax base pays for)

Under the Republican tent there are the rest of the Bible Thumpers, the gun nuts, the neo cons (people that prefer increases in military intervention), the alt-right (Nazi wannabes), and fake economic conservatives that want to bankrupt the government by not paying taxes.

HTH

So to be clear, in your estimation the alt-right are only Nazi wannabes or are they anyone who is an actual Nazi? Because if it’s the latter, those are far and few between 72 years after WW2.

So, to be clear, do you consider these to be "actual" Nazis or "wannabe" Nazis?

http://www.americannaziparty.com/

[smackaholic]

Can one of you libtards explain to me, just WTF is alt-right?

Wasn't long ago, you labeled us plain old right. Then you realized that an awfully big chunk of the country identified itself as such, so you needed something new. First neo-con, but apparently that didn't work either so it is now alt-right.

As for that moron on the radio, I doubt his numbers are actually that good. Maybe 2 million have listened to him one or twice, but I doubt his regular audience is anything close. And I suspect most of those aren't necessarily left or right, just anti-establishment in general.

Let me explain it this way, under the liberal tent you have the union folks, the tree huggers, the SJWs, the Baptists and Jews, druggies and the true economic conservatives (the people that believe in taxes and all the good things a solid tax base pays for)

Under the Republican tent there are the rest of the Bible Thumpers, the gun nuts, the neo cons (people that prefer increases in military intervention), the alt-right (Nazi wannabes), and fake economic conservatives that want to bankrupt the government by not paying taxes.

HTH

True economic conservatives are libertarians. They understand that government inherently sucks at spending our money and should be allowed to do as little of it as possible. I get a kick out of someone who is basically a full on socialist, saying they are "fiscally conservative" because they want government to spend money wisely. No, you are not fiscally conservative. You are a fukking Moron that believes in unicorns.


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[Moving Sale]

The fire in Sonoma was started by an illegal immigrant who the Sonoma PD has arrested and refused to turn over to ICE 5 times already in just 2017.
No federal money shouldn be given to the Sonoma fire if they're going to give sanctuary to the criminals that caused it

You really are fucked up in the head.

[FiatLux]

The fire in Sonoma was started by an illegal immigrant who the Sonoma PD has arrested and refused to turn over to ICE 5 times already in just 2017.
No federal money shouldn be given to the Sonoma fire if they're going to give sanctuary to the criminals that caused it

California doesn't need advice from a Mexican. Know your place.


Just be glad California hasn't cut off your water and internet.

[Diego in Seattle]

The fire in Sonoma was started by an illegal immigrant who the Sonoma PD has arrested and refused to turn over to ICE 5 times already in just 2017.
No federal money shouldn be given to the Sonoma fire if they're going to give sanctuary to the criminals that caused it

WTKYOA!

The arrest of a 29-year-old Latino man this weekend on suspicion of starting a small fire in California’s scorched wine country ignited a firestorm of its own on right-wing media sites whose articles linked him – without evidence – to the catastrophic fires that have killed at least 28 people in the area.

Sonoma County Sheriff Rob Giordano forcefully shot down the allegations at a press conference Tuesday afternoon.

“There is a story out there that he’s the arsonist in these fires,” Giordano said. “That’s not the case. There’s no indication he’s related to these fires at all. ... I wanted to kill that speculation right now, so we didn’t have things running too far out of control.”

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

So, to be clear, do you consider these to be "actual" Nazis or "wannabe" Nazis?

I would consider that half of them are FBI informants.

[MsCJ]

They aren't real. That's a new approach.

[BSmack]

Can one of you libtards explain to me, just WTF is alt-right?

Wasn't long ago, you labeled us plain old right. Then you realized that an awfully big chunk of the country identified itself as such, so you needed something new. First neo-con, but apparently that didn't work either so it is now alt-right.

As for that moron on the radio, I doubt his numbers are actually that good. Maybe 2 million have listened to him one or twice, but I doubt his regular audience is anything close. And I suspect most of those aren't necessarily left or right, just anti-establishment in general.

Let me explain it this way, under the liberal tent you have the union folks, the tree huggers, the SJWs, the Baptists and Jews, druggies and the true economic conservatives (the people that believe in taxes and all the good things a solid tax base pays for)

Under the Republican tent there are the rest of the Bible Thumpers, the gun nuts, the neo cons (people that prefer increases in military intervention), the alt-right (Nazi wannabes), and fake economic conservatives that want to bankrupt the government by not paying taxes.

HTH

Nazi stands for national socialist.
Socialists are on the left side of the aisle
If someone wants to be a socialist they are not "alt right" they are "anti right"

The only real socialist in the Nazi hierarchy was Ernst Rohm, and they capped his ass as soon as they could after taking power. There was no take over by the state of private enterprise, the state assisted private enterprise with policies geared towards infrastructure improvements and military rearmament.

[Wolfman]

^^^^^^
Albert Speer and company had some role there. May not have been direct party control of manufacturing and resources, but close enough.

[Diego in Seattle]

Where did Schmuck go?

[BSmack]

^^^^^^
Albert Speer and company had some role there. May not have been direct party control of manufacturing and resources, but close enough.

It was a partnership between the owners of capital and the government where in private ownership benefited greatly from government policies. That is what fascism is.

[smackaholic]

^^^^^^
Albert Speer and company had some role there. May not have been direct party control of manufacturing and resources, but close enough.

It was a partnership between the owners of capital and the government where in private ownership benefited greatly from government policies. That is what fascism is.

So, rather than full on socialist, it was a socialist/crony capitalist sharing of power.

What it was not, is anything at all "right", assuming you take right to mean libertarian.

Hitler was about running everything with an iron fist. Whether it be directly or through capitalist lackeys. Stop pretending he was anything else. Or are you going to go to the socialists can't be nationalists card that someone else here attempted to roll out a while ago?