Roy Moore the pedophile

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:21 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:
smackaholic wrote: We have a guy with a squeaky clean 40 year record
I laffed

Link us up with a documented accusation of this sort from this period.

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smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:24 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:
smackaholic wrote:Dudes who lead with their religious beliefs just ain't my style.
Except that you voted for Trump, you god forsaken moron.

Are you implying that Trump leads with religious views? He does it no more than Obama or Clinton ever did, which is not much at all unless it was convenient at the moment.

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Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:50 pm

smackaholic wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote:
smackaholic wrote: We have a guy with a squeaky clean 40 year record
I laffed
Link us up with a documented accusation of this sort from this period.

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Roy Moore's penchant for flirting with teen girls was "common knowledge" and "not a big secret" around Gadsden, according to some area residents.

The Senate candidate has denied any wrongdoing in the wake of a report from The Washington Post in which four women accused Moore of inappropriate advances - and in one instance, a sexual encounter - toward them when they were teens and he was in his early 30s.

One of the four women claims she was 14 at the time, making her the only one whose claim would represent a legal violation. Moore has said he never met her. A fifth woman came forward this afternoon.

Moore and other Republican leaders have questioned why it took so long for his accusers, now in their 50s, to come forward publicly.

And yet people who lived in Etowah County during that time have said Moore's flirting with and dating much younger women and girls was no secret.

"These stories have been going around this town for 30 years," said Blake Usry, who grew up in the area and lives in Gadsden. "Nobody could believe they hadn't come out yet."

Usry, a traveling nurse, said he knew some girls that Moore tried to flirt with.

"It's not a big secret in this town about Roy Moore," he said. "That's why it's sort of frustrating to watch" the public disbelieve the women who have come forward, he said.

The Mall

Colleagues and others who knew Moore told the Washington Post that he often walked alone around the Gadsden Mall.

The mall opened to great fanfare in 1974, anchored by department stores like Pizitz, Belk Hudson and Sears. It had a movie theater, lounge, drug store and restaurants including Morrison's Cafeteria.

It soon became a popular local hangout, especially for teenagers.

Wendy Miller told The Post that she was 14 and working as Santa's helper at the Gadsden Mall in 1977 when Moore first spoke with her and told her she looked pretty. Two years later, when she was 16, he asked her out on dates, although her mother wouldn't let her go.

Usry, who was a teenager at the time, remembers seeing Moore at the mall often.

"He would go and flirt with all the young girls," he said. "It'd seem like every Friday or Saturday night (you'd see him) walking around the mall, like the kids did."

Jason Nelms, who now lives in Tennessee but grew up in nearby Southside, was a regular at the mall when he was a teenager.

He recalled being told by a mall employee that they kept watch for an older guy who was known to pick up younger girls.

Nelms said he was told later by a concession worker at the mall that it was Roy Moore.

Gadsden MallThe Gadsden Mall. (Wikimedia Creative Commons, Mike Kalasnik)Anna Claire Vollers | avollers@al.com

Greg Legat worked at the Record Bar, a music store near Sears in the mall, from 1981-1985. The store was just down from the back entrance of the mall, near the three-screen Mall Theatre. It was a popular place for parents dropping off their teens in the evenings and on weekends.

Legat, now 59, said an off-duty Gadsden police officer named J.D. Thomas told him about various people he should look out for when he was working. This was around 1981, and Thomas worked security at the mall.

One of the people was a pickpocket, he said, while another was someone prone to pick fights.

One was Roy Moore.

"I asked him, 'What did he do?'" Legat recalled. "He said, 'If you see him, let me know. I'll take care of it.'"

Five other current and former Etowah County residents also spoke to AL.com with similar accounts.

"Him liking and dating young girls was never a secret in Gadsden when we were all in high school," said Sheryl Porter. "In our neighborhoods up by Noccalula Falls we heard it all the time. Even people at the courthouse know it was a well-known secret.

"It's just sad how these girls (who accused Moore) are getting hammered and called liars, especially Leigh (Corfman)."

On Monday, Beverly Young Nelson became the fifth accuser to come forward against Moore. During a press conference, she said she was a 16-year-old waitress at the Old Hickory House restaurant in Gadsden when Moore sexually assaulted her in his car. He was in his early 30s at the time, she said, and the deputy district attorney of Etowah County.

Another former waitress, Victoria Beverstock, told AL.com today that she was 20 years old and working at The Poor House restaurant in 1992 when Moore came in a few times a week to eat and do paperwork.

She said he made her and the other waitresses uncomfortable by staring at them and flirting.

"He watched us girls quite openly," said Beverstock. "His eyes crawled over our shirts and our backsides. He was so open about it that I would try and handle his order as quickly as possible.

"When you didn't smile and flirt back with him, give him an opening, he became rude and demanding," she said.

Teresa Jones, who said she worked at the Etowah County District Attorney's Office with Moore, took to Twitter on Friday to say it was "common knowledge" that he pursued teenage girls.

"As a Deputy DA in Gadsden when Roy Moore was there, it was common knowledge about Roy's propensity for teenage girls," she tweeted. "I'm appalled that these women are being skewered for the truth."

She later told CNN that Moore often went to local high school events and other hangouts: "It was common knowledge that Roy dated high school girls, everyone we knew thought it was weird...We wondered why someone his age would hang out at high school football games and the mall."

Tony Hathcock is a photographer in Gadsden who told CBS News that he's known Corfman well for five years and believes her. They are both very conservative Republican voters, he said, and both voted for Trump. He said she had nothing to gain from speaking out, but felt safe speaking out now because her children are now adults.

He said that growing up in Gadsden, he'd heard rumors about Moore. Last week, he posted on Facebook a defense of Corfman. He said that even as a middle-schooler in Gadsden he'd heard stories from people he knew about Moore's behavior making them uncomfortable.

https://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/ ... res_b.html

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:57 pm

Fake News.

Sin,

smacka

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:11 pm

So, everyone knew he was a creep, but NOTHING came out prior to the ballots being printed last week?

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Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:18 pm

smackaholic wrote:So, everyone knew he was a creep, but NOTHING came out prior to the ballots being printed last week?

Why do you hate sexual assault victims?

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:29 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:
smackaholic wrote:So, everyone knew he was a creep, but NOTHING came out prior to the ballots being printed last week?
Why do you hate sexual assault victims?

He's jealous.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:29 pm

smackaholic wrote:So, everyone knew he was a creep, but NOTHING came out prior to the ballots being printed last week?

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I haven't seen you come out about the times that you've been sexually assaulted.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:36 pm

You are right, B. So when I do come out with such allegations 40 years after the fact, against a politician on the eve of an election, feel free to ignore me.

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Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:41 pm

smackaholic wrote:You are right, B. So when I do come out with such allegations 40 years after the fact, against a politician on the eve of an election, feel free to ignore me.

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Barney Frank retired. Not likely to run again. Go ahead and let him have it. Oh wait, you already did.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:30 pm

smackaholic wrote:You are right, B. So when I do come out with such allegations 40 years after the fact, against a politician on the eve of an election, feel free to ignore me.

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So which politician is it?

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:38 pm

BSmack wrote:
smackaholic wrote:You are right, B. So when I do come out with such allegations 40 years after the fact, against a politician on the eve of an election, feel free to ignore me.

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So which politician is it?

Yuk yuk yuk!

You guys are sooooooooo funny.

So you got no intelligent reply concerning the topic. That's what I figured. Republicans are subject to any allegations, dems require a video or in the case of Bill, a cum stain.

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smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:39 pm

Wait, my bad. A cum stain wasn't enough.

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Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:53 pm

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:54 pm

Hey suckaholic, you do realize that Monica wasn't a minor?

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:06 pm

Nobody here is defending Clinton, dumbass. He was impeached over that, BTW.

But trying to excuse your current day heroes (one is President, and one running for Senate) based on the fact that somebody else did something 20 years ago is beyond even your normal level of dumbassery.
Seriously, think about it.

bigredretard · Post by **bigredretard** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:10 pm

Mikey wrote:Nobody here is defending Clinton, dumbass. He was impeached over that, BTW.

But trying to justify your current day heroes (one is President, and one running for Senate) based on the fact that somebody else did something 20 years ago is beyond even your normal level of dumbassery.
Seriously, think about it.

Trump has done nothing wrong.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:13 pm

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:26 pm

buggeredfucktard wrote:Trump has done nothing right.

FTFY

Bucmonkey · Post by **Bucmonkey** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:29 pm

smackaholic wrote:Wait, my bad. A cum stain wasn't enough.

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Why smack? why?

Bucmonkey · Post by **Bucmonkey** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:10 pm

This live shit is priceless tonight...

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:14 pm

smackaholic wrote:Republicans are subject to any allegations, dems require a video or in the case of Bill, a cum stain.

Your victim card is showing.

Bucmonkey · Post by **Bucmonkey** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:14 pm

Handwriting analysis!

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:25 pm

Mikey wrote:Nobody here is defending Clinton, dumbass. He was impeached over that, BTW.

But trying to excuse your current day heroes (one is President, and one running for Senate) based on the fact that somebody else did something 20 years ago is beyond even your normal level of dumbassery.
Seriously, think about it.

Clinton was impeached, but not convicted in the Senate. He finished out every last day of his term. This same senate says they want to toss a guy out, no matter how outlandish the charge looks if you consider all the factors?

Had someone come out as soon as he ran for the R nomination, it would still be sorta fishy, but understandable. The fact that this dropped the MOMENT he was locked in as the R candidate is a little more than fishy.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:29 pm

Goober McTuber wrote:Hey suckaholic, you do realize that Monica wasn't a minor?

she was early twenties and an underling. Whatr would you have done were it your 22 year old daughter?

What Clinton did was wrong on a number of levels. In the private sector or most anywhere in the public sector he would have been immediately sacked.

Trying to equate this to JFK boning MM is pathetic. It was more than just "2 consenting adults".

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:08 am

And number six is in.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ro ... mg00000009

At least this one was of age. Although the circumstances were pretty fucked up. He must have been feeling the Holy Spirit talking to him.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:11 am

BSmack wrote:And number six is in.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ro ... mg00000009

At least this one was of age. Although the circumstances were pretty fucked up. He must have been feeling the Holy Spirit talking to him.

Oh wait! numbers 7 and 8!

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/1 ... _with.html

Asking a girl half your age out while she's in her trig class?

Classy

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:17 am

Goober McTuber wrote:Hey suckaholic, you do realize that Monica wasn't a minor?

No he don't. He said Bill took advantage of her when she probably had been working on getting lip locked on Bills crank for as long as she worked there. I am sure Bill had to work the angle real hard to get her to smoke his pole. She did not want the cred of getting down on POTUS at all.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:20 am

BSmack wrote:And number six is in.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ro ... mg00000009

At least this one was of age. Although the circumstances were pretty fucked up. He must have been feeling the Holy Spirit talking to him.

And he saw it on the side of her ass so he had to reach out and make sure it was real.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:56 pm

smackaholic wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:Hey suckaholic, you do realize that Monica wasn't a minor?
she was early twenties and an underling. Whatr would you have done were it your 22 year old daughter?

What Clinton did was wrong on a number of levels. In the private sector or most anywhere in the public sector he would have been immediately sacked.

Trying to equate this to JFK boning MM is pathetic. It was more than just "2 consenting adults".

What Clinton did was wrong because of the power imbalance. Still not comparable to assaulting a 14-year-old child. Who said anything about JFK?

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:58 pm

If Sean Hannity's corporate lords told him to drop and perform fellatio on a dead gopher, he would do so immediately and with only one question: "Should I swallow, sir"?

Hey, that gopher wasn't dead...and he blew a load on my face!"

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:14 am

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The latest thing I have heard is Roy's assistant has the initials D.A. He says he had authority to sign documents for him and when he did, he would follow the signature with his own initials............kind of like Roy did in that girl's yearbook.

If this is true, it proves that the accuser that got this shitstorm started, is a fraud. It will be very easy to provide other "D.A." signatures. If he can't....well, maybe he should bail and hope the republicans can pull another candidate out of their asses in a few weeks.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:07 am

smackaholic wrote:https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/imag ... snZrXDWcB6

The latest thing I have heard is Roy's assistant has the initials D.A. He says he had authority to sign documents for him and when he did, he would follow the signature with his own initials............kind of like Roy did in that girl's yearbook.

If this is true, it proves that the accuser that got this shitstorm started, is a fraud. It will be very easy to provide other "D.A." signatures. If he can't....well, maybe he should bail and hope the republicans can pull another candidate out of their asses in a few weeks.

It doesn’t “prove” anything.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:25 am

OK, prove is a strong word. It shows a deliberate attempt to make Moore look guilty with faked evidence.

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:08 pm

My thinking is that Moore is not a pedophile, but something far more common: a man who wishes to exert control over a female. In my lifetime I have come across various men who when asked why they pursued girls or women far younger than themselves, their explanation was uniformly that they liked a girl who was "innocent," "pure," or "virginal." Their stated intent when pressed for detail was that a girl or woman who had an extensive dating history or who had previous serious or long term relationships weren't properly trained or something to that effect. It amounted to, in my eyes, a requirement for control wherein the girl was either too young to mount a defense of her preferences or didn't have enough life experience to know that he was preempting her ability to make decisions for herself.

If you asked the girl why she would even consider such a relationship, their response usually boiled down to vanity. It appealed to their vanity that an older, more mature man would be interested in someone her age despite having little or nothing in common.

What is notable in these stories being told about Moore is that he is not accused of raping or sexually molesting them, but of having a creepy interest in creating some sort of romantic relationship with very young girls/women. I find it damning that when pressed for a catagorical denial of having an interest in these young ladies, Moore slips and slides with evasive answers like "their mothers were aware of my interest in them" or "I did not have sex with them"-- which is entirely different from pursuing them as a suitor.

I also would allow for the fact that Moore at 32 was different from the present 72 year old Moore (or however old he is now). People change over time and those priorities he had in his dating life may very have changed over the years. My suspicions are that he is aware of his proclivity then (or now) towards control issues and is also aware of how unsavory these can appear. But make no mistake, wrestling with power and control is part and parcel of any male/female relationship and Roy Moore's history with females reflects a certain insecurity in himself.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:47 pm

Rooster, You are making it too complicated.

Young girls have nicer tits.

EOS

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:32 pm

Heheh, there is that, but she’d have to be an extraordinarily blessed 14 year old, but yes, I suppose there could be such a girl out there. :?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:07 am

Rooster wrote:Heheh, there is that, but she’d have to be an extraordinarily blessed 14 year old, but yes, I suppose there could be such a girl out there. :?

Apparently there was a whole mall full of them.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:09 am

Rooster wrote:Heheh, there is that, but she’d have to be an extraordinarily blessed 14 year old, but yes, I suppose there could be such a girl out there. :?

I can't speak for where you grew up, but where I went to middle school, I can remember a whole lotta blessin' goin' on. Granted, the titty fairy had not stopped at every girl's house by that age, but then, he never makes it to some. But he made it to enough that the adverb "extraordinarily" didn't really fit.

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:01 pm

That is completely different from my recollection of junior high. My memory is that nearly every girl was flat chested, perhaps because nearly everyone was skinny then. Mandatory PE, walking to and from school, no free school lunches, and an emphasis on sports participation kept the chunky off the monkey, so to speak. And considering that breast size is largely a function of body fat accumulation, it was a rare girl who had the glandular condition which gave her large teats on a thin frame.