Science

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

I have already said many many times that I assume that there is no space.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

What is going on here? :?

[Rooster]

I am wondering how all these various planets, moons, asteroids, and stars all managed to be placed full-disk side towards Earth. If Earth is a disk, it stands to reason every other celestial body is a disk as well. So how did they all end up facing us? Not one ended up edge on towards us.
Hmm. :?

[Goober McTuber]

I am wondering how all these various planets, moons, asteroids, and stars all managed to be placed full-disk side towards Earth. If Earth is a disk, it stands to reason every other celestial body is a disk as well. So how did they all end up facing us? Not one ended up edge on towards us.
Hmm. :?

Allah Akbar.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

My life is too short...

Not nearly short enough.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

btw ~ I am really goober

[Jay in Phoenix]

btw ~ I am really goober

Weird. I did not know Goober was a Canadian Jew.

Go figure.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

I'm also an alcoholic exhibitionist. But what's a case of bourbon between two naked friends, eh?

[Jay in Phoenix]

A bi gezunt, du alter cocker.*







*funny how yiddish translates for the nude beach.

[Softball Bat]

I have already said many many times that I assume that there is no space.

Yeah, I know...

Star Trek, Star Wars...

[Softball Bat]

I am wondering how all these various planets, moons, asteroids, and stars all managed to be placed full-disk side towards Earth. If Earth is a disk, it stands to reason every other celestial body is a disk as well. So how did they all end up facing us? Not one ended up edge on towards us.
Hmm. :?

It stands to reason that the objects in our sky are disks, if earth is a disk?

1. Why? What reason?

2. I have certainly never claimed that I know that they are disks.



I saw no theory from you, btw...

Rooster, almost everything that can be filmed... is filmed.

Why wouldn't they film a rocket going all the way to space?

They never thought of it?
Didn't think it would kool or interesting?
Just didn't give a damn?


Seriously, what's your theory on that?

Why do you think they have never filmed a rocket going from earth to space?

[Softball Bat]

You ask questions and don't bother to read the answers?

Sounds about right.


Good luck.

Enjoy your globe.

My life is too short to read through all of your drool. Address me directly, and then I might see it.

I DID, clown.

So what's outside the sphere, 'tardt?

I assume that the Bible is correct, and that waters are above the firmament.

Genesis 1:6-8

Genesis 1:14-18

Psalms 148:1-6

Read them.


I don't claim it to be FACT, but it is my assumption.

Page 1.
There it is.




Good grief!

[Softball Bat]

Btw, Mgo...

You never answered.

Do you think this is real?









Does anyone here think this is real?

[Jay in Phoenix]

This is real...



The video is soft focused and shaky, but it is shot through a smaller telescope. The moon in particular shows a global shape, as does Jupiter and Saturn. Not debatable.

[Softball Bat]

So what?




Japanese Moon footage.

Real?

[Jay in Phoenix]

Yes, real. Prove that it isn't.

[Rooster]

I am wondering how all these various planets, moons, asteroids, and stars all managed to be placed full-disk side towards Earth. If Earth is a disk, it stands to reason every other celestial body is a disk as well. So how did they all end up facing us? Not one ended up edge on towards us.
Hmm. :?

It stands to reason that the objects in our sky are disks, if earth is a disk?

1. Why? What reason?

2. I have certainly never claimed that I know that they are disks.

I saw no theory from you, btw...

Rooster, almost everything that can be filmed... is filmed.

Why wouldn't they film a rocket going all the way to space?

They never thought of it?
Didn't think it would kool or interesting?
Just didn't give a damn?


Seriously, what's your theory on that?

Why do you think they have never filmed a rocket going from earth to space?

Point taken; you did not claim that Earth is a disk. I concede I made an assumption that was wrong. However, as the equation A = B and B = C, therefore A = C, if you don’t know what shape Earth is, but you can see that all the other celestial bodies are disk shaped, it stands to reason that the earth resembles those other bodies which we can observe. From that you can derive that the shape of Earth is, at the very least when seen from afar, a disk, presuming that everything is two dimensional in... the firmament... and God was consistent when He created stuff.

However, I recall years ago that scientists shot a laser at the moon to measure both its distance and its shape. As nearly everyone else would expect, those scientists discovered that it was half spherical, in the sense that they could not measure the dark side. Would you make the claim that our moon is shaped like an ice cream scoop cut in half? Mind you, there have been a multitude of surprises for astronomers upon every discovery, but as of yet they have not found any objects with that shape yet.

As to your question about videoing a rocket shot from Earth to space, that has been done many times, both from the perspective of the observer here on the ground and from the rocket itself— as has been posted earlier by Jay. This is no secret or hidden recording— measurements taken during acceleration were and are highly necessary for improving performance and reducing failures, something desirable considering how expensive space work is.

[Softball Bat]

Japanese Moon footage.

Real?

Yes, real. Prove that it isn't.

Obviously. Your take?

It's ridiculously fake.

Marty's cartoons look more real.


Was it the tinkling music that helped persuade you two clowns to believe that it is real?

[Softball Bat]

As to your question about videoing a rocket shot from Earth to space, that has been done many times, both from the perspective of the observer here on the ground and from the rocket itself— as has been posted earlier by Jay.

Many times?

Where is the video of the rocket going from land to space?

[Softball Bat]

Would you make the claim that our moon is shaped like an ice cream scoop cut in half?

I don't claim to know for sure what the moon is, what it's full shape is, how far away it is, etc.

[Softball Bat]

It is real!


Sincerely,

Zombies

[Felix]

Easy. Science isn’t about beliefs, whether common or popular or whatever. Science is about proving hypotheses with reproducible test results. A computer model that predicts what it is programmed to predict is not a scientific test. But science does dictate that a hypothesis that predicts a future event that then does not occur as predicted is invalid. Science is a huckster’s bitch.

^^^^^ what he said

[Felix]

Would you make the claim that our moon is shaped like an ice cream scoop cut in half?

I don't claim to know for sure what the moon is, what it's full shape is, how far away it is, etc.

we know exactly how far it is away and if you've never had the opportunity to watch a lunar laser firing I'd suggest you do it....it really is fascinating whether you believe it's real or not

[Jay in Phoenix]

Felix, poptart is a moron. No matter how much physical or visual evidence you show him, he cries fake but never can prove or dispute it. The telescope footage is painfully real. Hell, remember the movie made about Apollo 13? It displays a genuine weightless environment as it would be in space. I'm sure poptard thought those were special effects, but that was achieved in orbit about the plane known as the Vomit Comet, which LS can address. It goes though parabolas that produce a weightless condition that lasts about 25 seconds.

Tart will deny this too, but again, he's an idiot.

[Softball Bat]

The telescope footage is painfully real.

And what does the telescope footage prove?

It certainly does not prove your globe.

Hell, remember the movie made about Apollo 13? It displays a genuine weightless environment as it would be in space. I'm sure poptard thought those were special effects, but that was achieved in orbit about the plane known as the Vomit Comet, which LS can address. It goes though parabolas that produce a weightless condition that lasts about 25 seconds.

Nobody has been to space, Jay.

There is no video of a rocket going from land to space.

Nope, sorry.

You're just not too sharp.

poptart is a moron.

Tart will deny this too, but again, he's an idiot.

LOL

Your head has been repeatedly kicked in on all sides, Jay.

Your only desperate hope is to call me names.

Good luck!

[Softball Bat]

Since poptart is a "science denier" and you globe enthusiasts know your science so well, perhaps you can help me out.



I know it is really kooky and stuff, but it is my contention that on a lake, water lays flat from one end to the other.
Like what you see below.







But you say "No, poptart. You are an idiot!"

Okay, will you please provide me with the mathematical formula for the curving of water that you insist is... fact.

Science.




Thanks in advance.

Hugs and kisses.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Not having followed every scribbled pronouncement on Flatism, could you bring me up to speed on the "curved water" debate?

[Softball Bat]

Not having followed every scribbled pronouncement on Flatism, could you bring me up to speed on the "curved water" debate?

My post kind of hits the essence of it, Marty.

I think water lays flat across a lake, the globers insist it curves.

I have asked for them to show me the mathematical formula or equation for such, but it has not shown up.
It is as absent as KC Scott.

What shows up are pictures of droplets of water.
LOL

Or... gibbering about gravity.
LOL

Or... angry diatribes punctuated by "YOU ARE A MORON," and other very hurtful language.
LOL


And of course we see things like what 88 just posted.
With no mathematical formula to be found.


So it is.

[Jay in Phoenix]

And what does the telescope footage prove?

It certainly does not prove your globe.

The shots of the moon from the telescope are real. The show a globe shaped moon, as do the shots of Saturn and Jupiter. Ergo, all planets are globe shaped. Prove to us poor folk that they are not.

There is no video of a rocket going from land to space.

Nope, sorry.

You're just not too sharp.

Sure there are, you've seen plenty of them. You just deny them, like you deny all evidence you're given, since it doesn't fit your delusions.

The dullard is you my whack-o fliend.

Your head has been repeatedly kicked in on all sides, Jay.

Your only desperate hope is to call me names.

Good luck!

The only person here who has had his head and ass kicked...repeatedly, is you. One tiny, brainless man against the entire board and all proven science. And yet you think you're right.

Sad.

You've established nothing. You have no proof. Your sources are a joke.

So are you. The padded room and straight jacket await your call.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Mathematically, the water should follow the curvature of the Earth, having an equal amount of gravitational pull evenly across it's entire surface...just as you would have on two sides of an ocean.

[Softball Bat]

Mathematically, the water should follow the curvature of the Earth, having an equal amount of gravitational pull evenly across it's entire surface...just as you would have on two sides of an ocean.

Yes.

We know what the globe earth dimensions allegedly are, so I want to globers to tell me the formula or equation is for the bending water.

[Softball Bat]

Dear Jay,

1. "Spheres" up in our sky don't prove that the earth is one.

2. No rocket going from land to space has ever been posted on this board.


Oh (my) for 2!




And btw...


LOOK, it's a sphere!!












:)

[BSmack]

http://www.davidsenesac.com/Information ... sight.html

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

We know what the globe earth dimensions allegedly are, so I want to globers to tell me the formula or equation is for the bending water.

The water isn't bent. It is equidistant from the Earth's core.

[Softball Bat]

http://www.davidsenesac.com/Information ... sight.html

I have posted this many time.
Dinsdale has insisted many times that it is wrong.
Despite being asked many times to tell me what he thinks the the correct information is, he has never done so.
And in fact he humiliated himself terribly a few weeks ago on this very issue.


The Earth has a radius of approximately 3965 miles. Using the Pythagorean theorem, that calculates to an average curvature of 7.98 inches per mile or approximately 8 inches per mile (squared).

This is correct?

[Softball Bat]

We know what the globe earth dimensions allegedly are, so I want to globers to tell me the formula or equation is for the bending water.

The water isn't bent. It is equidistant from the Earth's core.

Really?

Where is the core, and how do you know?

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Where is the core, and how do you know?

Why do you hate reason? Do you think this curries favour with Him?



Even Christ questioned Him. Do you claim a more robust resolve than Christ?

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Meditate on the wickedness of your pride. It's the best advice I can offer you.

[BSmack]

http://www.davidsenesac.com/Information ... sight.html

I have posted this many time.
Dinsdale has insisted many times that it is wrong.
Despite being asked many times to tell me what he thinks the the correct information is, he has never done so.
And in fact he humiliated himself terribly a few weeks ago on this very issue.


The Earth has a radius of approximately 3965 miles. Using the Pythagorean theorem, that calculates to an average curvature of 7.98 inches per mile or approximately 8 inches per mile (squared).

This is correct?

It is not only correct, it is testable and repeatable. Ancient Greeks were able to figure this shit out with sticks.

[Softball Bat]

http://www.davidsenesac.com/Information ... sight.html

I have posted this many time.
Dinsdale has insisted many times that it is wrong.
Despite being asked many times to tell me what he thinks the the correct information is, he has never done so.
And in fact he humiliated himself terribly a few weeks ago on this very issue.


The Earth has a radius of approximately 3965 miles. Using the Pythagorean theorem, that calculates to an average curvature of 7.98 inches per mile or approximately 8 inches per mile (squared).

This is correct?

It is not only correct, it is testable and repeatable. Ancient Greeks were able to figure this shit out with sticks.

Is the Eratosthenes experiment your supposed "testable and repeatable proof" of curving water at a rate of 8 inches per mile squared?

LOL


BUILT INTO the asinine stick "experiment" is that ASSumption that the sun is 93 million miles away -- and is producing rays which are perpendicular to the earth.

Maybe the sun is close and the rays are not hitting perpendicular to the earth.

*poof*

The whole dumb thing is based on an ASSumption.

Okay, will you please provide me with the mathematical formula for the curving of water that you insist is... fact.

Water must begin to curve on your globe long before 1 mile (5280 ft).

It must curve at 1/10 of a mile (500 ft) and sooner.

500 ft (a bit less than two football fields) -- what is the water curvature and what is your mathematical formula for it?
And where is your experiment that shows this curving water in accordance with your formula?