Stick a fork in Brett Kavanaugh

ML@Coyote · Post by **ML@Coyote** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:23 am

Rooster wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote:Why won't Kavanaugh sit down and interview with the FBI?
Why should he? Is he being accused of committing a federal crime deserving of investigation?

It is clearly an X-File case.

From the Washington Post: "Ford has alleged that while she and Kavanaugh were at a house party in the early 1980s, when the two were in high school, Kavanaugh drunkenly pinned her to a bed, groped her and put his hand over her mouth to stifle her screams as he tried to take off her clothes."

How could Kavanaugh do all of this with only two arms and two hands? Clearly if Ford is telling the truth, he is a four-armed alien. The investigation is warranted.

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:54 pm

The funny thing is, by this standard of behavior, the Supreme Court wouldn’t have anybody on it due to normal teenage human interactions ranging from awkward attempted goodnight kisses to grabbing a boob— not that Kavanaugh is guilty of any of that. Teen girls are equally inept when dealing with boys. This silly #MeToo movement has taken an even sillier turn by labeling kids who are learning social etiquette and the limits of acceptable behavior into predators by stigmatizing what everyone once understood as teenagers figuring out how to behave as adults.

I’m just surprised the Left didn’t accuse him of inappropriate incestual sexual touching when he was being born. After all, he had his face, hands, and dick inside his mother’s vagina. Egads!

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:30 pm

Good God, you are incredibly stupid.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:36 pm

Dinsdale wrote:OK, I'll type slowly this time...

for what?

She is credibly accusing him of sexual assault. I don't want sexual assaulters on the Supreme Court.

I know you don't give a shit but many people do.

Good luck in November.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:39 pm

So let's recap here

Dins: He's innocent
Kilitard: He's innocent
Slobbering Sam: He's the victim
ML: He's the victim
Wolftard: She's a whore
Rooster: He didn't do anything wrong

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:50 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:So let's recap here

Dins: He's innocent
Kilitard: He's innocent
Slobbering Sam: He's the victim
ML: He's the victim
Wolftard: She's a whore
Rooster: He didn't do anything wrong

Fredo_Michigan: All statements made about an incident over 35 years ago are completely credible and beyond reproach, even if specific dates, times and locations can't be given and there are multiple eyewitnesses named by the accuser who refute said story.

ML@Coyote · Post by **ML@Coyote** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:13 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:So let's recap here

Dins: He's innocent
Kilitard: He's innocent
Slobbering Sam: He's the victim
ML: He's the victim
Wolftard: She's a whore
Rooster: He didn't do anything wrong

Nice recap. So what are your arguments?

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:15 pm

Her accusation is credible and deserves a throughough investigation prior to a vote on Kavanaugh's potential confirmation to the court. He's been busted lying numerous times under oath and his credibility is damaged beyond reproach.

ML@Coyote · Post by **ML@Coyote** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:26 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:Her accusation is credible...

Several people here have given specific arguments explaining how her accusation is not credible. How specifically to do respond to the points they raised?

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:33 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:Her accusation is credible and deserves a throughough investigation prior to a vote on Kavanaugh's potential confirmation to the court. He's been busted lying numerous times under oath and his credibility is damaged beyond reproach.

So he's perjured himself? Care to link that up from a non biased source?

Also, explain how her accusation is credible, despite her not being able to name any specifics when it comes to time frame or location, or the fact that three people named as people who witnessed it have said that it's not true.

We all know you can't and won't. So move the goal posts or move on the next cause du jour of the lefties.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:45 pm

Well he did it, he finally did it!

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I have no doubt that, if the attack on Dr. Ford was as bad as she says, charges would have been immediately filed with local Law Enforcement Authorities by either her or her loving parents. I ask that she bring those filings forward so that we can learn date, time, and place!

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:30 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:OK, I'll type slowly this time...

for what?
She is credibly accusing him of sexual assault.

That's the fucking moronic answer I was expecting.

Since when is a local sexual assault case under FBI jurisdiction?

Take your time... like forever.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:44 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:51 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:Donald J. Trump
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I have no doubt that, if the attack on Dr. Ford was as bad as she says, charges would have been immediately filed with local Law Enforcement Authorities by either her or her loving parents. I ask that she bring those filings forward so that we can learn date, time, and place!

I'm in agreement with the president. If there was a crime committed the police would have been called, if they weren't it must not have been too big of a deal back then, and we are to believe now going on 40 years later it was?

No, it's more like partisan politics 2018 "#metoo" style.

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Killian · Post by **Killian** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:55 pm

Joe in PB wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote:Donald J. Trump
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I have no doubt that, if the attack on Dr. Ford was as bad as she says, charges would have been immediately filed with local Law Enforcement Authorities by either her or her loving parents. I ask that she bring those filings forward so that we can learn date, time, and place!
I'm in agreement with the president. If there was a crime committed the police would have been called, if they weren't it must not have been too big of a deal back then, and we are to believe now going on 40 years later it was?

No, it's more like partisan politics 2018 style.

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That's bullshit and it was monumentally stupid for Trump to tweet that. He really needs to learn the value of an unexpressed thought.

If he and you truly believe that, you can't believe the shit uncovered in PA done by the Catholic Church. Time frame alone doesn't prove or disprove anything.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:58 pm

And one persons word vs another's does?

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Killian · Post by **Killian** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:07 pm

If you've followed my posts in this thread, my answer to that question is pretty obvious.

Her story already has enough holes in it without President Tamland saying "Well if there really was a crime, she would have gone to the police!"

At best, it's incredibly tone deaf. Given the numerous studies showing that people have a very hard time to go forward with sexual assault claims, a little deference should be given. Fuck even if you don't believe that, he shouldn't have said it for the strategic reason of not giving the Dems another reason to call him a misogynistic asshole and painting him as waging a war on women.

Best for all involved to let this play out.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:11 pm

Dinsdale wrote: Since when is a local sexual assault case under FBI jurisdiction?

Take your time... like forever.

You're right. She'd be better off going to Maryland police.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:15 pm

Killian wrote:If you've followed my posts in this thread, my answer to that question is pretty obvious.

Her story already has enough holes in it without President Tamland saying "Well if there really was a crime, she would have gone to the police!"

At best, it's incredibly tone deaf. Given the numerous studies showing that people have a very hard time to go forward with sexual assault claims, a little deference should be given. Fuck even if you don't believe that, he shouldn't have said it for the strategic reason of not giving the Dems another reason to call him a misogynistic asshole and painting him as waging a war on women.

Best for all involved to let this play out.

You have your head on straight. Unfortunately your knuckledragging comrades like Joe Blow do not.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:21 pm

Obviously she started talking about this to her therapist in 2012 because she knew that Brett Kavanaugh was going to get nominated to the Supreme Court in 2018. Makes perfect sense to me. #maga

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:25 pm

Comparing this to what has happened in the Catholic Church is like comparing apples to oranges. Many people have come forth with allegations, similar circumstances have occured on many of the metoo allegations involving a number of people.

This is nothing more than a political assassination attempt by the democratic party, and the president stating common sense is exactly that. Fuck political correctness.

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ML@Coyote · Post by **ML@Coyote** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:32 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:
Killian wrote:If you've followed my posts in this thread, my answer to that question is pretty obvious.

Her story already has enough holes in it without President Tamland saying "Well if there really was a crime, she would have gone to the police!"

At best, it's incredibly tone deaf. Given the numerous studies showing that people have a very hard time to go forward with sexual assault claims, a little deference should be given. Fuck even if you don't believe that, he shouldn't have said it for the strategic reason of not giving the Dems another reason to call him a misogynistic asshole and painting him as waging a war on women.

Best for all involved to let this play out.
You have your head on straight. Unfortunately your knuckledragging comrades like Joe Blow do not.

You still haven't argued a single point brought up except now to call those who disagree with you knuckledraggers.

Where's the beef?

ML@Coyote · Post by **ML@Coyote** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:35 pm

BSmack wrote:Obviously she started talking about this to her therapist in 2012 because she knew that Brett Kavanaugh was going to get nominated to the Supreme Court in 2018. Makes perfect sense to me. #maga

Are they making the therapist's notes public?

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:36 pm

Subtly and nuance is completely lost on you. This isn't pointing out common sense and giving the double barrels to political correctness. It's a pointless, idiotic tweet that accomplishes nothing positive.

Yes, these two are completely apples and oranges cases based on exactly what you just said. Now is when you need to keep up. Trump states that if this really happened, she would have gone to the cops when it happened. Did any of the kids go to the cops when all of that went down? No. Did it happen? Yes. Do you see the point? Just because someone didn't go forward with allegations years ago doesn't mean it didn't happen. There are a ton of people who have come forward with allegations against specific church figures and have given specific timelines that are easily verifiable.

For Kavanaugh, that's not the case. It's one person who's story is coming a part more and more as time goes on. That's what people should be focusing on.

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:38 pm

I’d like some clarification on this, Screwy. Are you contending that Kavanaugh and only Kavanaugh should be brought to task for some possible “sexual assault”— whatever that means in the context of copping a feel —or are you saying that just Supreme Court justice nominees should be investigated? Would you include any and all people in positions of authority, ranging from the local dog catcher to the President? How about celebrities?

Would you stipulate that if a woman makes an accusation she should be believed, ala Hillary Clinton? Or would you argue that those who are loons can safely be dismissed as members of a vast right wing conspiracy, ala Hillary Clinton?

You seem to be quite adamant that Ms. Ford is a credible witness to being groped, regardless the holes in her memories of the occasion. Does your threshold of credibility extend to all women, such as Ms. Monaghan of Keith Ellison fame? How about Jaunita Broderick? The masseuse who accused Al Gore of being a frenzied sex poodle?

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:07 pm

Rooster wrote:such as Ms. Monaghan of Keith Ellison fame?

Emotional abuse is not sexual assault. I know you're a few cards short of a full deck but please keep up with us.

ML@Coyote · Post by **ML@Coyote** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:17 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:Emotional abuse is not sexual assault.

You're right. Emotional abuse can be worse.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:24 pm

ML@Coyote wrote: You're right. Emotional abuse can be worse.

No, it can't. And in Ellison's case, they weren't even married. She could have left any time she chose.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:30 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:
ML@Coyote wrote: You're right. Emotional abuse can be worse.
No, it can't. And in Ellison's case, they weren't even married. She could have left any time she chose.

You're a fucking idiot. "Could have left any time she chose"? Never post here again if you really believe that.

ML@Coyote · Post by **ML@Coyote** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:37 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:
ML@Coyote wrote: You're right. Emotional abuse can be worse.
No, it can't.

"The research indicates that it is just as bad and, in some cases, may be worse."

https://domesticviolencestatistics.org/ ... tal-scars/

Read and learn. It's a short article.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:10 pm

Killian wrote: You're a fucking idiot. "Could have left any time she chose"? Never post here again if you really believe that.

You're joking, right? You have one fucked up view of relationships. Why do you hate female agency?

Are you one of those Mater Dei dipshits? Didn't know we had those in Michigan.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:18 pm

It's painfully clear that you have zero experience dealing with someone who has been in an emotionally abusive relationship and trying to help that person get out. They can develop something approaching Stockholm Syndrome among other obstacles you have to overcome.

Go ahead and fuck right off.

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:51 pm

Ms. Monaghan, former lover of Keith Ellison, contends it was more than emotional abuse, but physical abuse as well— all of which is backed up by police and medical reports which were noted in a timely manner (within 24 hours, not 35 years). Furthermore, her son is in complete agreement with her accusations as an eye witness against the DNC second-in-command and possible future Minnesota Attorney General, the position which would likely require him to investigate crimes of a domestic nature, unlike Kavanaugh who would hardly be judging matters related to sexual assault.

See where I am going here? You seem to be walking in shoes made of banana peels. You’re quite slippery and hard to pin down on what should be an open and shut case of Believe The Woman Regardless Of The Facts.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:54 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:Why do you hate female agency?

I know you like the BuzzFeed-y sound of that, but I don't think "female agency" means what you think it means...

sorry bruh

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:56 pm

Simple. Believe women who accuse conservatives, don't believe women who accuse liberals. Everything in his life boils down to left vs. right. His whole persona is that of an aggrieved wanna be victim who doesn't want to take accountability for his own actions. Fuck, it's even in his username.

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:59 pm

Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote:Why do you hate female agency?

I know you like the BuzzFeed-y sound of that, but I don't think "female agency" means what you think it means...

sorry bruh

Maybe he was thinking of the WACs or WAVEs? Although I suppose he could mean Planned Parenthood. That’s an agency which is almost entirely made up of chicks.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:54 pm

Killian wrote:Simple. Believe women who accuse conservatives, don't believe women who accuse liberals. Everything in his life boils down to left vs. right. His whole persona is that of an aggrieved wanna be victim who doesn't want to take accountability for his own actions. Fuck, it's even in his username.

When Keith Ellison is nominated to a Senate confirmed position that requires hearings we can certainly hash out his personal behavior with women.

But he's not, Brett Kavanaugh is, so go fuck yourself in the mean time.

ML@Coyote · Post by **ML@Coyote** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:41 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:
Killian wrote:Simple. Believe women who accuse conservatives, don't believe women who accuse liberals. Everything in his life boils down to left vs. right. His whole persona is that of an aggrieved wanna be victim who doesn't want to take accountability for his own actions. Fuck, it's even in his username.
When Keith Ellison is nominated to a Senate confirmed position that requires hearings we can certainly hash out his personal behavior with women.

But he's not, Brett Kavanaugh is, so go fuck yourself in the mean time.

So it's only a penalty if the ref sees it.

And it's only speeding if the cop has his radar detector on.

And it's only stealing if you get caught on film.

I hope you're not raising children.

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:46 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:
Killian wrote:Simple. Believe women who accuse conservatives, don't believe women who accuse liberals. Everything in his life boils down to left vs. right. His whole persona is that of an aggrieved wanna be victim who doesn't want to take accountability for his own actions. Fuck, it's even in his username.
When Keith Ellison is nominated to a Senate confirmed position that requires hearings we can certainly hash out his personal behavior with women.

But he's not, Brett Kavanaugh is, so go fuck yourself in the mean time.

Why do we have to wait that long? What’s wrong with right now so this poor woman can see justice? No peace, no justice, right? #MeToo and all that. It sounds to me like you are supporting the patriarchy and that just isn’t cool.

Carson · Post by **Carson** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:39 pm

Wow, just wow...