It’s Mueller Time...

FiatLux · Post by **FiatLux** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:21 am

Dr_Phibes wrote:Bsmack is Raymond Burr and I claim my 5 fulas.

I'm surrounded by Canadian tards.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:39 am

You’re surrounded by your own flatulence.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:06 am

BSmack wrote:Others are free to build on his evidence.

At what cost to us taxpayers?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:52 am

Left Seater wrote:
BSmack wrote:Others are free to build on his evidence.
At what cost to us taxpayers?

Well you just don't worry your little head about that. This will be in the southern district of New York and the New York State Attorney General's office.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:54 am

Left Seater wrote:
BSmack wrote:Others are free to build on his evidence.
At what cost to us taxpayers?

Probably a lot less than the cost to US taxpayers for the Drumpf family’s travel budget.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:45 pm

BSmack wrote:
Left Seater wrote:
BSmack wrote:Others are free to build on his evidence.
At what cost to us taxpayers?
Well you just don't worry your little head about that. This will be in the southern district of New York and the New York State Attorney General's office.

Just keep on investigating Trump all the way into a 2nd term. Not The Don isn’t a winning campaign strategy.

BlackThroatedWind · Post by **BlackThroatedWind** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:52 pm

Rachel Maddow makes $30,000 per episode. I'm not saying she's stupid, she's a Rhodes Scholar.

But the Russian Collusion angle morphed her show into a Corporate Democrats version of Info Wars. For the last 2-years, she was a less outrageous version of Alex Jones. Why?

#1) She wanted to believe the Russian Collusion angle was true.

#2) Her employer NBC desperately tried to push Russia across all their news formats. Why? As Lady Gaga would say "a million reasons" ...start by looking at who the leadership is at NBC and that's most telling. Look at the type of people NBC News hires, look where they came from before, look where they go when they move on from the network. Also, ratings are a huge factor.

#3) I would LOVE to know what Maddow was hearing off-the-record. I guarantee you, she was getting fed pure BS "off-the-record" by someone with an agenda who is, or was, very prominent in the Intelligence Community. You see the same thing happen to sharp TV figures in all the stupid wars. They have this smug confidence about their commentary, even though they're saying things that defy common sense and there is zero evidence of any kind to support what they're always hinting at or saying. We saw it with Assad. We saw it with the Libya debacle. We saw it with the Iraq War. Serious Pundits can be snowed.

#4) The whole notion that "If they weren't colluding with Russia, why did some of the people around Trump tell lies?" This happened because Trump was surrounded by a gang of shady tricksters and bigmouths like Roger Stone, not conspirators to an elaborate global espionage plot. When the full might of the Federal Government presses down on these lying bigmouths types, they're going to say some things that lying bigmouths naturally say.

BlackThroatedWind · Post by **BlackThroatedWind** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:59 pm

This was peak Rachel Maddow as Alex Jones...

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:14 pm

Left Seater wrote:At what cost to us taxpayers?

It will probably cost you three fun size Snickers and a couple of Butterfingers.

Through January 2019, the Special Counsel has publicly initiated criminal proceedings against 34 people—seven U.S. nationals,
26 Russian nationals, and one Dutch national—and three Russian organizations. The Special Counsel has brought charges in three
different jurisdictions: the District of Columbia (D.D.C.), the Eastern District of Virginia (E.D. Va.), and the Southern District of
New York (S.D.N.Y.). The Special Counsel has also referred several cases to other prosecutors, resulting in charges against two
individuals.

The charges have resulted in some convictions, several plea deals, and jail time in several cases. Details are summarized below.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_ ... 80%932019)

Why do you hate justice?

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:16 pm

BlackThroatedWind wrote:This was peak Rachel Maddow as Alex Jones...

As far as I can tell, nobody here gives half a shit about Randy Maddow.

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:01 pm

BSmack wrote:
Left Seater wrote:So Hillary lost fair and square? A huge kick to the nuts of Dems who claimed the election was stolen from Her.
No it is still an irrefutable fact that the Russians interfered. Just because Mueller wasn't able to find an irrefutable beyond a reasonable doubt case does not mean the crime did not happen or that the linkage isn't there. Others are free to build on his evidence.

Hope springs eternal, eh? I am amazed at how vested people got into the whole collusion story when it was obvious the Clinton campaign started it all.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:09 pm

Left Seater wrote:
BSmack wrote:Others are free to build on his evidence.
At what cost to us taxpayers?

So far, none. Mueller has actually turned a profit for taxpayers.

This ONE investigation has yielded many convictions & guilty pleas while generating a profit for the taxpayers. Yet you never raised the issue of cost once during the dozens upon dozens of Hillary Clinton investigations/hearings led by Trey Gowdy that yielded absolutely nada. Why is that?

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:57 pm

Because he is part of the red menace.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:17 pm

Diego in Seattle wrote:
Left Seater wrote:
BSmack wrote:Others are free to build on his evidence.
At what cost to us taxpayers?
So far, none. Mueller has actually turned a profit for taxpayers.

This ONE investigation has yielded many convictions & guilty pleas while generating a profit for the taxpayers. Yet you never raised the issue of cost once during the dozens upon dozens of Hillary Clinton investigations/hearings led by Trey Gowdy that yielded absolutely nada. Why is that?

Well we knew she was guilty for one. Turns out we now know the Obama Justice Dept had no desire to bring charges against her. Had they not put her above the law charges would have been filed.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:39 pm

Trump is a bragger.

So why isn't he bragging about the Mueller report clearing him?

Why hasn't the report been released?

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:42 pm

Guilty of what?

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:42 pm

Diego in Seattle wrote:Trump is a bragger.

So why isn't he bragging about the Mueller report clearing him?

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · Mar 24
No Collusion, No Obstruction, Complete and Total EXONERATION. KEEP AMERICA GREAT!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref ... r%5Eauthor

Seriously. What fucking planet are you on?

Why hasn't the report been released?

Probably because it was only released to the AG Friday afternoon, dumbfuck. It will be redacted first. There are some (alleged) attorneys here could explain to the rules of Federal Criminal procedure which will necessitate that large portions of this report be redacted, but they're intellectually dishonest hacks as well as being not particularly bright. Marginally more intelligent than you, though.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:56 pm

BSmack wrote:
Left Seater wrote:So Hillary lost fair and square? A huge kick to the nuts of Dems who claimed the election was stolen from Her.
No it is still an irrefutable fact that the Russians interfered. Just because Mueller wasn't able to find an irrefutable beyond a reasonable doubt case does not mean the crime did not happen or that the linkage isn't there. Others are free to build on his evidence.

The only thing irrefutable is your delusional behavior. Denial is the first step in coping with loss, I understand that a couple of shit posting meme farms wasn't the "Russian interference" you were hoping for...nevertheless that what you've got. Meanwhile back in reality:

the Special Counsel noted that, in completing his investigation, he employed 19 lawyers who were assisted by a team of approximately 40 FBI agents, intelligence analysts, forensic accountants, and other professional staff. The Special Counsel issued more than 2,800 subpoenas, executed nearly 500 search warrants, obtained more than 230 orders for communication records, issued almost 50 orders authorizing use of pen registers, made 13 requests to foreign governments for evidence, and interviewed approximately 500 witnesses.

...and they came up with jack shit.

"Wo ist Brennan? Wo ist Clapper?

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:06 pm

At its very core, what drove the Left to demand an independent counsel is the firm and unshakable belief that Trump couldn’t have possibly been elected without cheating. It is that belief that demands an overhaul of the Electoral College, the push to add justices to the Supreme Court, and a never ending series of investigations into ever more absurd accusations of cheating by Trump.

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:37 pm

mvscal wrote:..and they came up with jack shit.

Why do you lie?

Oh... because you are a liar.

Through January 2019, the Special Counsel has publicly initiated criminal proceedings against 34 people—seven U.S. nationals,
26 Russian nationals, and one Dutch national—and three Russian organizations. The Special Counsel has brought charges in three
different jurisdictions: the District of Columbia (D.D.C.), the Eastern District of Virginia (E.D. Va.), and the Southern District of
New York (S.D.N.Y.). The Special Counsel has also referred several cases to other prosecutors, resulting in charges against two
individuals.

The charges have resulted in some convictions, several plea deals, and jail time in several cases. Details are summarized below.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_ ... 80%932019)

poptart wrote:1. The report needs to be made public.

2. From Barr's letter: On obstruction of justice: While this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.

3. From Barr's letter: The Special Counsel also referred several matters to other offices for further action.

4. Donald is eyeballs deep in legal trouble with the state of NY.

You are just another idiotic hack.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:26 am

Rooster wrote:At its very core, what drove the Left to demand an independent counsel is the firm and unshakable belief that Trump couldn’t have possibly been elected without cheating. It is that belief that demands an overhaul of the Electoral College, the push to add justices to the Supreme Court, and a never ending series of investigations into ever more absurd accusations of cheating by Trump.

Pretty much sums it up. Especially the Supreme Court part. Liberals love to run out the talking point that Trump is stacking the SCOTUS. Uhh, yeah. And that is different than Obama putting Liberals on the Court when he was President? Or him not voting to confirm Bush’s nominees when Obama was a Senator?

It’s what Presidents do.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:31 am

Diego in Seattle wrote: Yet you never raised the issue of cost once during the dozens upon dozens of Hillary Clinton investigations/hearings led by Trey Gowdy that yielded absolutely nada.

Good to see the Liberal Double Standard is alive and well. More do what I say not what I do.

Anytime anyone not on Liberal Team D brings up Her the automatic response is “whataboutism.” Or Her isn’t the President and we are only talking about him. But no problem if someone on Team D brings Her up eh?

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:15 am

mvscal wrote:[Probably because it was only released to the AG Friday afternoon, dumbfuck.

The investigation lasted for two years.

How many witnesses were contacted & interviewed?

How many documents were obtained?

And yet we're supposed to believe that Barr (who previously declared that he was against the investigation) was able 3go through all of that evidence in 48 hours?

Sure Jan, sure.

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:24 am

In the aftermath of Barr receiving the Mueller report, and then issuing a statement on it, we have the president come out and say irrational and untrue things.
Unhinged, per norm.

Treason?
lol

Don, why did you cave on the birth certificate issue that you pimped so hard for years?
Gutless, lying sack of shit.

Treason.

All we have so far are statements that Don's chosen AG has made about the Mueller Report.
We have not seen what the report actually says.

Barr relayed to us that Mueller does not exonerate Donald of obstruction of justice, and that the Special Counsel has referred several matters to other offices for further action.

Everyone should already be aware that Donald faces serious NY State issues.
Issues on many different fronts.

Everyone should also already be aware that many folks Don has chosen to hitch himself to (Cohen, Manfart, Stone, Flynn, etc.) are in deep shit.
Criminals.
Birds of a feather flock together.

This is complete victory?

LOL

Good luck!

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:27 am

The adults are discussing things.

Go play with your blocks, son.

atmdad · Post by **atmdad** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:00 am

Diego in Seattle wrote:
mvscal wrote:[Probably because it was only released to the AG Friday afternoon, dumbfuck.
The investigation lasted for two years.

How many witnesses were contacted & interviewed?

How many documents were obtained?

And yet we're supposed to believe that Barr (who previously declared that he was against the investigation) was able 3go through all of that evidence in 48 hours?

Sure Jan, sure.

What was it, 4-6 weeks ago some crap about a bombshell Cohen dropped that the media ran apeshit with only to have Mueller refute it as the bullshit that it was within a few hours. Well, it has been over 24 hours and Mueller has not refuted Barr's summary so I would think Barr probably got it right. Wasn't there some news that Barr actually consulted with Mueller to make sure he got it right?

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:31 am

Diego wrote:And yet we're supposed to believe that Barr (who previously declared that he was against the investigation) was able 3go through all of that evidence in 48 hours?

This begs the question, how long is the report?

25 pages?
250 pages?

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:40 am

It's called -----> posting takes.

It's what the board is all about, numbnuts.

Now go curl up with a box of Choco Pies and stfu.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:56 am

When are we going to see the full Mueller report instead of relying on a political statement from Trump's handpicked atty gen?

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:12 pm

The House voted (420-0) to release the report.

Senate Republican leaders said -----> nope.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 161577002/

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:29 pm

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:37 pm
mvscal wrote:..and they came up with jack shit.
Why do you lie?

Oh... because you are a liar.

Through January 2019, the Special Counsel has publicly initiated criminal proceedings against 34 people—seven U.S. nationals,
26 Russian nationals, and one Dutch national—and three Russian organizations. The Special Counsel has brought charges in three
different jurisdictions: the District of Columbia (D.D.C.), the Eastern District of Virginia (E.D. Va.), and the Southern District of
New York (S.D.N.Y.). The Special Counsel has also referred several cases to other prosecutors, resulting in charges against two
individuals.

The charges have resulted in some convictions, several plea deals, and jail time in several cases. Details are summarized below.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_ ... 80%932019)

And none of the charges had jack fucking shit to do with Trump or his team "colluding" with Russians to "influence" the election. You know...the alleged reason for the so called investigation in the first place.

Why are YOU lying?

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:32 pm

Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:15 am
mvscal wrote:[Probably because it was only released to the AG Friday afternoon, dumbfuck.
The investigation lasted for two years.

How many witnesses were contacted & interviewed?

How many documents were obtained?

And yet we're supposed to believe that Barr (who previously declared that he was against the investigation) was able 3go through all of that evidence in 48 hours?

Sure Jan, sure.

No, you're supposed to believe that Barr used the summary conclusions compiled by Mueller's team to preface the report, you fucking idiot.

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:01 am

mvscal wrote:And none of the charges had jack fucking shit to do with Trump or his team "colluding" with Russians to "influence" the election. You know...the alleged reason for the so called investigation in the first place.

Why are YOU lying?

I've lied about nothing, you feeble degenerate.

If a cop pulls you over for an expired tag and proceeds to find you carrying bags of blow, what happens?

Duh.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:48 am

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:01 am
mvscal wrote:And none of the charges had jack fucking shit to do with Trump or his team "colluding" with Russians to "influence" the election. You know...the alleged reason for the so called investigation in the first place.

Why are YOU lying?
I've lied about nothing, you feeble degenerate.

If a cop pulls you over for an expired tag and proceeds to find you carrying bags of blow, what happens?

Duh.

And if your tag wasn't actually expired but merely a falsified pretense to pull your car over?

No, the real scandal here is national intelligence agencies being weaponized against domestic political opposition based on a blatantly false premise. That is far more dangerous to the nation than anything Trump was ever rumored to have done in even the most whacked out leftard jerkoff fantasy.

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:21 am

mvscal wrote:And if your tag wasn't actually expired but merely a falsified pretense to pull your car over?

It doesn't make the illegal bags of blow disappear.

You've hitched your wagon to a buffoonish con man.

I'm afraid I have to inform you that you are a very gullible idiot.

It is embarrassing, and the Republican party is a total disgrace.

Let's see the report.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:28 am

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:21 am It doesn't make the illegal bags of blow disappear.

Actually, "fruit of the poisonous tree" would have the blow charges dismissed.

But carry on, you're correct with everything else.

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:58 am

SM wrote:Actually, "fruit of the poisonous tree" would have the blow charges dismissed.

The blow is still there.
Whether it can be admitted as evidence depends on the circumstances.

Does mvscal think criminals Manfart, Flynn, Stone, and others should be let off because of the "false premise" of the Mueller investigation?

Now the issue for Don extends far beyond the legality of his actions.

Misconduct, even if not technically illegal, could be extremely problematic for him.
It is not hard at all to imagine him being found unfit for office if things come to light that he would rather not have come to light.

Mueller chose to (according to Barr) specifically say that his report does not exonerate Donald of obstruction.
That means something.

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:42 am

mvscal wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:48 am
And if your tag wasn't actually expired but merely a falsified pretense to pull your car over?

In this case we would use the exception to the “fruit of the poisonous” tree rule that was laid out in US v Leon.
Any other stupid questions you yellow racist pedo?

Innocent Bystander · Post by **Innocent Bystander** » Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:38 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:53 pm We must be getting 8chan refugees.

8chan was an FBI honeypot.

Who is BTW?