tOSU vs Texas

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:08 pm

No I didn't predict any events of the game except

1. Vince would run and throw all over your defense.
2. Our oline would dominate your dline.
3. I did predict our dline would dominate your oline but that was not close to being true.
4. I did predict that the speed of our defense was something you have never seen before. That was correct.
5. I did predict Texas would out rush USC, and they did.

I never predicted we would shut you down only that we would outscore you.

And in the entire month of December I took so much shit it was unreal. During that time I held my ground.

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:10 pm

buckey_in_sc, even though that's all true it still felt to some of us USC fans that we were dogshit for a good twenty years or so, in between the early 80s right up until Pete recently resuced the program.

I still feel like I just came in from the cold after having spent the last two decades in exile, banished to the college football wilderness.

But yeah, all in all, USC historically has a far more signifcant program than Texas.

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:14 pm

Vito, c'mon, what else could you do but hold your ground and predict a Texas victory?

"Hoooookay, I give up. Your guys have better arguments so I guess you're right. USC will kill my Longhorns. Sorry for piping up..."

Of course not. You predicted your very good team would win, and you were hardly alone in making that prediction. Also, there would've been no shame for you had USC won 41-38, and no major reason to claim ownage over you either.

campinfool · Post by **campinfool** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:37 pm

How the hell did this become a USC- Vito slugfest? I thought this was about the rematch of one of the best football games every played by Texas and maybe even OSU. We all know for many years Texas was pretty lousy and got their ass handed to them on many occasions. It is true UCLA came in here and owned us 66-3. But that was the old regime. Mack has had his share of failures and a few blowout losses to OU, but since his arrival in Austin, Texas has one of the best home records and the best overrall record in college football. Texas got a lot of heat for its failures in big games and Mack was part of that criticism as well. But for a team that went to the Horseshoe and won and then beat a great USC team in the Rose Bowl I don't think the same criticism can be levied against them anymore. This team is good. It is a force that many fans could be envious of.

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:39 pm

^^^^^^^^

good point my threads seemed to get hijacked...so if I can't beat them I might as well join the fray.

fine..Texas blows and tOSU will bitchslap them...feel better?

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:54 pm

buckeye_in_sc wrote:Vito...Hate to break it to you but:

1984 Season (1985 Rose Bowl) Southern Cal beat tOSU in the Rose Bowl.
1988 Season (1989 Rose Bowl) they were PAC 10 Champs and lost 22-14 to Michigan in the Rose Bowl
1989 Season (1990 Rose Bowl) they were PAC 10 champs and won the Rose Bowl
1995 Season (1996 Rose Bowl) they were PAC 10 Co - Champs and won the Rose Bowl
2002 Season (2003 Orange Bowl) they were PAC 10 Co - Champs and skull Fucked Iowa in the Orange Bowl
2003 Season (2004 Rose Bowl) they were PAC 10 Champs and beat Michigan in the Rose Bowl
2004 Season (2005 Orange Bowl) they were PAC 10 Champs, butt fucked OU in the mouth in the Orange Bowl and were National Champions
2005 Season (2006 Rose Bowl) they were PAC 10 Champs, and lost to UT in the Rose Bowl

so your assertion they were nothing between 1984 through 2002 is baseless since it is a known fact (i used the records according to CFB datawarehouse) that they were involved in a lot of Rose Bowls and won conference Championships.

Between 1985 and 1989 Texas won no more than 8 games in a season
Between 1990 and 1994 Texas had ONE 10 game winning season
Not until 1995 when Mack came in did they start winning 9 to 10 games with regularity
and until 2004 they played in ONE Sugar Bowl and ONE Fiesta Bowl (lossses to VA Tech and PSU) but the Cotton and Holiday were their home away from home more times than not between 1995 and 2003...

Just throwin some facts into the mix...just sayin'

just saw Vans post...good post...same with tOSU vs Miami...great game...lots of twists...awesome...

I think the point was that USC was not playing for the MNC during that time. Hell Texas won several conference titles between 84 and 2k5 and played in a lot of great bowl games. But Texas was not playing for MNCs during that time so USC fan says Texas was not relivent. So I used the same argument critera.

Back to the original topic, I think a big changed happened today when T Brown got arrested, he is one of the top corners in college football and a huge part of our pass defense. I have a feeling this is going to be a huge distraction for the team.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:09 pm

back on track
Ohio State 31
Texas 17

socal · Post by **socal** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:15 pm

tOSU 23
Tejas 20

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:11 pm

Vito, arrested for having pot and a gun, in the week before the biggest game of the year??

Nebraska transfer, or what?

:-)

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:18 pm

Vito Corleone wrote:I know how you handled defeat this year.

Care to re-think that?

Funny but I don't seem to remember SC doing much of anything between 1984 and 2k2.

Funny, but I don't recall Texas doing much of anything since 1970.

As for these boards, SC fan was non-existant until Pete Carrol came around then we have you and a few others. I was here posting when Mac II was bumbling around the 40 acres, I was here for the 97 4-7 team. I was here in 2k when blOwU hung 63 on us, and again in 2k3 when they did it again. I have been here representing my team. You have not, so kiss my ass front runner.

I've been on these boards since the Hackett era, but what's a little revisionist history amongst friends.

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:28 pm

I don't even think any of these Jim Rome spinoff message boards existed back in '97 but I've been "here" following USC since 1972...

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:34 pm

I don't even think any of these Jim Rome spinoff message boards existed back in '97

I found a pic of Luth logging on back in the day...

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:36 pm

Where's the kick starter??

socal · Post by **socal** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:45 am

Van wrote:I don't even think any of these Jim Rome spinoff message boards existed back in '97 but I've been "here" following USC since 1972...

It ain't '72 (it's prolly a few years later) but what kid with allegiances tied to USC didn't want to be JK McKay?
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Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:51 am

Me. I wanted to be Shelton Diggs.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:10 pm

In the pick'em contest out of the first 17 people to put their picks in

8 picked tOSU
7 picked Texas
1 refused to pick

pretty even right now.

L45B · Post by **L45B** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:29 pm

Yeah, tOSU are +2.5 dogs which I believe was about the same spread for Texas in last year's game. CNNsi picked Texas 23-20... I think they picked the same score, different result last year. Buckeye fans have flooded ESPN.com's poll, looks like it's at 59/41 currently.

Can't say I'm getting much work done this week.

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:45 pm

sc raises his hand being the one who doesn't pick tOSU but at least I already got my spot in the pick em finals...

i haven't got shit done either lance...

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:47 pm

buckeye_in_sc wrote:i haven't got shit done either lance...

The four day work week has been nice...shit has flown by for me. Hard to believe we're approaching Thursday already.

L45B · Post by **L45B** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:59 pm

buckeye_in_sc wrote:i haven't got shit done either lance...

Well _sc, the good thing for me is that I was extra productive last week. And my boss and everyone around here knows I'm going to the game Saturday, so they aren't expecting much from me this week. Although it is month-end closing for us accounting/finance people, which kinda sucks balls.

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:03 am

^^^^^^^^^

don't have the month end closing gig...but working for a bank in ACC country I am in the minority...but then again I just found out I am headed to vegas for a users conference in two weeks...so that takes some of the sting out of not going this weekend (got to head to vermont next week so travel would have been tight and expensive)...

mucho buckeye kharma your way out there lance and the rest of the buckeye contingent...

L45B · Post by **L45B** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:23 am

Yeah, I'll be there to keep Sky & a few of his Aggie cronies under control.

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:57 am

Lance, I am headed up to the Michigan game sans ticket...you going?

Shawn Marion · Post by **Shawn Marion** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:15 pm

http://www.rpongett.phpwebhosting.com/osupreview.html

For anybody with a lot of time on their hands, this is a really good preview of the game. Very good actually, this guy must not have a job.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:45 pm

Shawn Marion wrote: Very good actually, this guy must not have a job.

Or it could be Shaz's Ohio State Soulmate.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:16 pm

I'm watching the 05 game on ESPN Classic right now.

Should be able to catch most of it until it's time to head back to work...good stuff.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:52 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:I think rpongett is a UT guy. I've seen him on Hornfans.com when I take my semi-annual schlepp over there.

yeah, rpongett is an old timer at hornfans going back to the late 90's--sort of the hornfans "X's and O's" designate.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:04 am

Shawn Marion wrote:http://www.rpongett.phpwebhosting.com/osupreview.html

For anybody with a lot of time on their hands, this is a really good preview of the game. Very good actually, this guy must not have a job.

Funny you ask, but Pongett is a lawyer or a stock broker, I can't remember. One of those is his hobby, his real job is doing this shit.

Bobby42 · Post by **Bobby42** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:32 pm

5.5 hours till Kick-Off and articles like this doesn't make it any easier.

10 reasons why Ohio State will win today
By Kyle Nagel

Dayton Daily News

Saturday, September 09, 2006

10: Quarterback Troy Smith (uniform No. 10). Go ahead, you try to tackle him.

9: Running back Antonio Pittman has nine 100-yard rushing performances in 23 career games, including six in his past eight games.

8: The Buckeyes have won eight straight games by an average of 22 points.

7: This is the seventh season Ohio State has opened No. 1. In the previous six, the Buckeyes won an average of 6.5 games before their first loss.

6: Six times since losing 25-22 to Texas on Sept. 10 of last season, Ohio State has scored at least 35 points. The Buckeyes have averaged 33.7 points in the 11 games total.

5: This season is the fifth time Texas has opened No. 3 in the Associated Press poll. The Longhorns have lost to the highest-ranked team they've faced each of the previous four times.

4: Receiver Ted Ginn Jr. had four catches (for 123 yards and two touchdowns) in the opener against Northern Illinois, a much faster start (no pun) than he had last season.

3: The Buckeyes have played three games in the state of Texas, in which they've gone 3-0 (1976 against SMU at the Cotton Bowl; 1987 against Texas A&M in the Cotton Bowl; 2004 against Oklahoma State in the Alamo Bowl).

2: In Jim Tressel's five-plus seasons, Ohio State has lost just two of the nine games it has played against teams ranked in the Top 10.

1: Ohio State is ranked No. 1. Enough said.

Ten reasons why Texas will win today

10: OK, 10.13, but close enough. That's the time, in seconds, tailback Jamaal Charles has run the 100 meters. And it's really, really fast.

9: The Longhorns have a nine-game winning steak against ranked opponents.

8: In his first eight seasons in Austin, Mack Brown coached Texas to an 83-18 record, a winning percentage of 82.1.

7: The Longhorns have seven returning starters on both offense and defense from the 2005 national championship team. Those 14 players have made a combined 264 starts.

6: Beginning with Game 6 of 2004, Texas has won 21 straight.

5: This is the fifth time Texas has played in a game matching teams ranked No. 1 and No. 2 in the Associated Press poll. The Longhorns are 4-0 in those games.

4: Four receivers on the Texas roster have at least one career catch of 30 yards or more.

3: Texas has lost just three of the 47 home games it has played with Mack Brown as coach (6.4 percent).

3: The past two Broyles Award winners (top assistant coach) are on the Longhorns staff — offensive coordinator Greg Davis (2005) and co-defensive coordinator Gene Chizik (2004).

1: Just one school has at least 10 wins in each of the past five seasons. You guessed it, Texas.

campinfool · Post by **campinfool** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:34 pm

About that home record, 2 of the losses were in Brown's first season. They lost to NC State and K-State. The only other loss was to Arkansas a couple of years ago. Granted the OU game is not a "home" game, but still that record at home is often over looked. Texas usually doesn't grab the attention of being a tough road trip.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:05 am

Why oh why do they use Burnt Hamburger on a game like this?

Now I'm going to have to turn the sound off.

Where's Phyllis George, anyway?

Shawn Marion · Post by **Shawn Marion** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:20 pm

http://www.rpongett.phpwebhosting.com/ut-ohst.html

Here is the link that Vito posted that was sent to Trots. It isn't the same link as before. What it is, is the same in depth video break down of the actual Texas v. tOSU game. Not just the preview.

Quality stuff.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:43 pm

Thanks Shawn, Firsco screwed the pooch on that one. :)

After watching the breakdown, I think Texas passing game and pass defense are in a lot worse shape than I previously thought. The pass defense I believe can be fixed with the return of Kelson, Brown, and Marcus Grif. The pass offense is another story. BTW I counted 6 passes that hit the receiver in the hands and were dropped. The real problem after watching those videos was that Colt's decisions were pretty bad. On the Int he made every mistake possible including locking in on the one target. I had to laugh though because on the Int. Charles was wide open under the zone and there was not a player within 5 yards of him.

Best quote has to be

I'm not sure what the refs could have possibly seen on the roughing the passer penalty. It wasn't late. If it was "helmet-to-helmet," that's even worse. Helmets touch at some point on nearly every tackle. Outside of Oklahoma, humans walk upright. Their heads generally touch at some point on a collision. It was actually great defense by Ohio State that gave Texas the ball 1st down near the goal line.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:49 pm

t.u. was 3 tackles away from winning that game.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:04 pm

yea, too bad the three missed tackles all resulted in touchdowns.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:08 pm

Actually the game was much closer than the score. I know it sounds kinda bitchy but Texas left 10 pts on the field and two turnover resulted in 10 pts for tOSU. I'm not saying Texas was going to win, it was obvious from Rob's breakdown they could have passed on us all day if they wanted to. just saying that the game was decided on about 5 or 6 big plays.

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:30 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:t.u. was 3 tackles away from winning that game.

Sad thing is....atm hasn't been 3 tackles away from beating anyone worth a shit in years.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:13 pm

Vito Corleone wrote:Actually the game was much closer than the score. I know it sounds kinda bitchy

Yes, yes it does.

ND left at least 10 points on the field against GaTech, so that was still a close game.

PSU left at least 10-13 points on the field, and had one fumble that was returned for a score. They still got their asses kicked.

Van · Post by **Van** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:32 pm

Seem to recall USC leaving a fuckuva lotta points on the table during a certain recent game against Texas...

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:47 pm

Harvdog wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:t.u. was 3 tackles away from winning that game.
Sad thing is....atm hasn't been 3 tackles away from beating anyone worth a shit in years.

I know m2=scrollwheel with most people but read some more.