tOSU vs Texas

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:48 pm

Ok let's get it on...

Colt looked pretty impressive (although it was against North Texas) but nonetheless he still seemed to have command of the Texas offense. The Texas defense came to play (again it was against North Texas) but still to shut them completely down...very nice.

tOSU looked sharp offensively early then went into hibernation. They lost two fumbles inside the NIU 10 which would have been nice to get at least 6 out of those two drives. Next week they can't make those mistakes. Defensively NIU did break some big plays and the tackling was shoddy at times. I was encouraged that they did make some key plays when needed (Grant pick, some key 3rd down stops)...

All in all I think both teams played extremely well given the circumstances. This game might come down to the kicking game and as of now Texas has that advantage.

I will revise my prediction but right now I am going to say

tOSU 31
Texas 27

a late tOSU TD seals the deal.

I look for the playmakers on both sides (Ginn, Smith, Pittman, Sweed, Charles to step UP BIG TIME)...

discuss...

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:23 pm

F-F-Franklin County....

campinfool · Post by **campinfool** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:48 pm

This game is so hard to pin point. It will be strength vs strength and weakness vs. weakness. I really think the Texas D will keep Ginn in check, but Troy Smith has me worried. Texas is so fast that they sometimes leave themselves vulnerable to a misdirection play. With Troy Smith being mobile it could mean some huge plays or at least some drive sustaining heroics. But on offense Texas should do fine barring turnovers. The Buckeye run defense looks shaky. With Young and Charles Texas may have one of the best 1-2 RB duos in the land. If either Texas QB can get some running yards out of the zone read then the game will be a shootout. I still like Texas in a close one though. The Horseshoe is not the only stadium in the country where the home team does not lose often. Texas home record under Mack is impressive and OSU sucks at night road games.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:06 pm

I don't know how much I can really take away from the Texas or tOSU game since neither played a tough opponent and neither were challenged in any way. I think Texas used 4 plays the entire game.

I was flipping back and forth between games yesterday, (For the first time I actually boned up for ESPN Gameday) these were some of my observations.

1. The OSU offesne is as scary as we were lead to believe. They are by far the best looking offense I saw all day.

2. The OSU defense bent but really didn't break.

3. I know that tOSU pretty much played nothing but base defense all day (like Texas they didn't want to show too much) but I also noticed that the dline was unable to generate much of a pass rush without bringing a linebacker. This does not bode well playing against a Texas oline that is much much better than NIU.

4. The Texas dbs vs. the tOSU receivers is going to be worth the price of admission by themselves. I think each side is going to make some plays on the other. Last year Texas did a great job of shutting down TG2, I have a feeling that he is coming to Austin looking for blood.

There is not much else I can say because there is nothing more I learned for watching two teams beat the crap out of cream puffs.

Can't wait til next Saturday

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:16 pm

Texas 32
OSU 24

The Texas D will do a slightly better job of slowing down OSU's offense than OSU's D will do against the Texas offense.

Key to the game: Texas turnovers. If Colt "manages the game well" (man, is anybody else here already getting sick of that new catchphrase for inexperienced QBs) and avoids making the big mistakes then the speed of Texas and their homefield advantage will be just enough to get them past OSU here.

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:23 pm

Great point all the way around...

this is a tossup in the pureest sense much like last year...outside of the late safety the game was 23-22 and UT prevailed 25-22...saw two traditional powers slug it out...

again fast forward to the 9th...two traditional powers with question marks slugging it out...who will blink first? Both coaches, players, and fans know what is at stake...

the one thing about yesterday that struck me is Troy never ran with the ball and that has got to concern mack and the texas coaching staff...ala Krenzel against Miami in the 2003 Fiesta Bowl you could see some wrinkles there or Ginn Jr at QB...I would say Ginn Jr might even play some Defense this week...?

I like what McCoy did running wise and tOSU's LB's are a little slower than last years group (duh)...if Freeman limits his mistakes and plays like he is capable of and we get solid LB play this might be the difference maker for tOSU's defense. The tackling on the OSU side was shoddy at best and they need to shore that up in a hurry as well as (good point Vito) get some pass rush from the front 4.

AGHHH...this game is woah...hard to dissect I still stick with tOSU winning and my score still stands (but I may revise)...

DiT · Post by **DiT** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:24 pm

McCoy will get crushed like some broad in the back of the BangBus and lose the game for Texas.
OSU 27
UT 13

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:27 pm

diT wrote:McCoy will get crushed like some broad in the back of the BangBus and lose the game for Texas.
OSU 27
UT 13

Definitely how I hope it plays out...

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:50 pm

McCoy took some pretty good shots yesterday including a couple of dirty shots and he still got right back up. Unless he scrambles and doesn't protect himself I don't see him taking too many shots that will knock him out of the game.

What you guys did not see yesterday was the Texas TE who will probably be featured much more on Saturday.

Truth is both teams were pretty vanilla I didn't see anything from either that was beyond the ordinary. Both teams are going to throw the kitchen sink at the other, this game is probably for a trip to the MNC. Neither team is going to face a tougher opponent except for maybe their bowl game.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:45 pm

I think the team that runs the ball the best will win this game. Both teams have experienced o-lines and are deep at the RB position. I think Texas' defense is better, but I feel like last year's game, the team w/ the more experienced QB will find a way to win.

tOSU 27
Tejas 24

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:51 pm

I like the home team in this one 9 times out of 10.

Just can't pull the trigger on a team with a young QB vs a QB of Heisman caliber. Just can't do it.

OSU - 28
Texas - 24

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:28 pm

Ohio State 31
Texas 17

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:16 pm

Ahhh.... it's that week again.....

Texas looked good yesterday. They ran the ball well and passed well. Yesterday was about getting comfortable. This is the first time in 3 years we have had a new QB. Colt looked poised. He threw and ran well. The receivers looked great. Shipley was a little rusty but will end up being huge by the end of the year.

The guy you didn't see was #16. JerMicheal Finley. I am positive tOsu will see plenty of him on Saturday.

Texas playeda good game on defense. The front four looks awesome. Jamorio Thomas is a good back and he was totally blown up all day long. The pass rush was good.

Troy Smith poses problems. The guy can ran and thorw like andother #10 who was a MNC last year. If Texas is to win this game we must contain Smith. I think Gene has a few wrinkles up his sleeves for tosu.

Austin is a tough place to play for the opponents. I think Colt will play fine. It is not like he doesn't face a pretty good d during practice.

Texas 31
tosu 20

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:03 pm

didnt UCLA hang a 66 on Texas in Austin a couple years back?

Snake · Post by **Snake** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:39 pm

diT wrote:McCoy will get crushed like some broad in the back of the BangBus and lose the game for Texas.
OSU 27
UT 13

Rack the Sooner...dit

Budwiser has got to do a "here's to you Mr BangBus Banger..........."

Our linebackers need to get their collective shit together real quick. Homan, Freeman, and Grant need to be the starters. The outside containment was nowhere to be seen. JT hates to run up scores but I think he has to let this offense go wild and score as many points as they can. Right now the defense is a liability and they need to stay off the field as much as possible.........

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:47 pm

SoCalTrjn wrote:didnt UCLA hang a 66 on Texas in Austin a couple years back?

Yea, that happened in 1997, Mac II was the coach and I think Bobby Jack Wright was our DC (sup spooner fan). Looking back it was the best thing that happened to the program, but it sure didn't feel good at the time. That year Texas had 4 teams tear down goal posts after they beat us.

But leave it to socalfan to try and draw an anology between that game and this one.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:27 am

was simply stating that giving up 66 at home to anyone within the last decade makes it less "tougher" place to play for opponents. I do agree that Austin a tough place to play for schools like North Texas or Sam Houston

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:44 am

Pac Ten fan telling anyone else that their stadium atmospheres aren't "tough" is comedy gold.

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:50 am

Vito Corleone wrote:But leave it to socalfan to try and draw an anology between that game and this one.

Right. Texasfan never reaches five, ten, fifteen years back.

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:52 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Pac Ten fan telling anyone else that their stadium atmospheres aren't "tough" is comedy gold.

Bitter midwestern dumbfucks who think the Big 10 is above the rest is pure comedy gold.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:01 am

Link?

That's what I thought, dumbfuck.

The SEC is a cut above the rest this year.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:09 am

even when He whose name we dont speak of was SC's coach, the Trojans never gave up 66 to anyone at home, including McNowns UCLA squads.

USC has now won 20 in a row away from home in the regular season which goes nicely with a 27 home game win streak

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:02 am

Texas 31
Ohio State 28

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:56 am

SoCalTrjn wrote:was simply stating that giving up 66 at home to anyone within the last decade makes it less "tougher" place to play for opponents. I do agree that Austin a tough place to play for schools like North Texas or Sam Houston

LA is a pretty easy place to play.

Sincerely,

Texas

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:58 am

SoCalTrjn wrote:even when He whose name we dont speak of was SC's coach, the Trojans never gave up 66 to anyone at home, including McNowns UCLA squads.

USC has now won 20 in a row away from home in the regular season which goes nicely with a 27 home game win streak

So I guess the Rose Bowl was a road game or a home game? Either way one of those streaks is now gone.

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:31 am

Scoot over MgoBitterman, and make room for Vito on the dumbfuck bench.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:53 am

I may be a dumbfuck but it was my team holding up the crystal football not yours bitch.

Vito = SCOREBOARD
Meds = Vito's Bitch

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:19 am

Vito Corleone wrote:
SoCalTrjn wrote:even when He whose name we dont speak of was SC's coach, the Trojans never gave up 66 to anyone at home, including McNowns UCLA squads.

USC has now won 20 in a row away from home in the regular season which goes nicely with a 27 home game win streak
So I guess the Rose Bowl was a road game or a home game? Either way one of those streaks is now gone.

No you guess your dumb ass doesn't know what regular season means

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:29 pm

Vito Corleone wrote:I may be a dumbfuck but it was my team holding up the crystal football not yours bitch.

Vito = SCOREBOARD
Meds = Vito's Bitch

I see. The outcome of our game a year ago, which you claim makes LA an easy place to play, makes USCfan your bitch. Got it. Those Rose Bowl games were real beatdowns, wouldn't Michiganfan back me up here?

Props on going the path of LSUfan with your newfound relevance in CFB. I'm sure you'll lose with the same class you've shown winning. Yep, I'm sure you will. Good job finding a voice on this board only when Texas started winning. We look forward to Texas losing in the near future, for more than one reason.

BTW...nobdy can qualify as 'Vito's bitch' - this is just a scientific fact.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:49 pm

Jimmy Medalions wrote:
Vito Corleone wrote:I may be a dumbfuck but it was my team holding up the crystal football not yours bitch.

Vito = SCOREBOARD
Meds = Vito's Bitch
I see. The outcome of our game a year ago, which you claim makes LA an easy place to play, makes USCfan your bitch. Got it. Those Rose Bowl games were real beatdowns, wouldn't Michiganfan back me up here?

Props on going the path of LSUfan with your newfound relevance in CFB. I'm sure you'll lose with the same class you've shown winning. Yep, I'm sure you will. Good job finding a voice on this board only when Texas started winning. We look forward to Texas losing in the near future, for more than one reason.

BTW...nobdy can qualify as 'Vito's bitch' - this is just a scientific fact.

Now there is a laugh, POS socal fan calling out anyone in any sport with the term "newfound relevance". News flash, Socal fans have no relevance in sports because you are nothing but a bunch of bandwagon pussies. You were non existant before Carrol and will disappear when Carrol bolts. Just like UCLA fan, Laker fan, Raider fan, Dodger fan and if they ever get good Clipper fan. Face it you pukes are not fans but a bunch of front runners. And I was on these boards when you were still playing with yourself while listening to Jim Rome and trying to think of ways to get racked. I took my lumps and deserve to gloat a little.

Sorry to break it to you but you more than qualify for my Bitch since I own you, van and every SC fan that didn't believe me in December and January.

In closing Fuck you my bitch

socal · Post by **socal** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:54 pm

Vito,

You forgot Cal State Disneyland, Chatsworth porn factories, and the San Andreas fault but it's nice to know that all of SoCal is in your dome.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:06 pm

The only thing in my dome is tOSU. Just because I know 2+2=4 doesn't mean I dwell on it. sc is in the past, Texas has bigger fish to fry than worrying about you fucks.

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:12 pm

Vito Corleone wrote:You were non existant before Carrol and will disappear when Carrol bolts.

Vito Corleankler doesn't do his homework.

Which team has been non-existent, again?

Ten, nine, eight, whatever is always greater than four. Math says you just got pwn3d.

January is still marinating that chin of yours, which explains the lack of any [previously non-existent] objectivity.

Around here people say you're an irrational, myopic dumbfuck. Tell me you knew.

In closing Fuck you my bitch

Let me get you a tissue Vito. It's obvious you haven't a clue how to handle success and thus have a little-man's complex. It's fine that you won the MNC last year - really it is and CFB fans around the country will be OK.

It's also fine that, with the exception of Kal, you can't appreicate that all teams have good fans, and bandwagon fans. Ask OUfan how Jimmy Medalions handled the Orange Bowl game a few years back. Then ask them how Vito Corleone has handled the 2005 Rose Bowl. Then ask them when Vito Corleone found his voice on this board. Then put that tail between your legs and step away from the keyboard.

History has been an effective indicator that Texasfan doesn't have much in the staying power department. Just shut the fuck up and enjoy your run with dignity. Everyone gets a turn but nobody appreciates a shitty winner.

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:28 pm

quit hijacking my fucking threads...

just fucking with you...carry on...

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:29 pm

Vito, let's not go overboard here...

Yeah, Texas squeaked by USC in the Rose Bowl. That fact however in no way equates to you owning me.

Last I checked, neither of us suited up for that one.

Last I checked, that game was so close that neither team can lay claim to owning the other.

Your favorite team eeked out a huge win over my favorite team. Period.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:34 pm

Ask OU Fan? Why not Ask Kal fan how gracious sc has been? Why not ask Auburn fan how gracious Bama fan is? Why not ask Michigan fan how gracious tOSU fan is?

Are you really this transparent, its a wonder if you've ever been laid. I don't give a shit how you handled victory last year, I know how you handled defeat this year.

As a team Texas had a 17 year absence from any relevance in college football. But before that we played for 3 seperate MNC. Texas didn't win any of them but they played for them. To say Texas had no relivance between 1970 and 1984 just shows how little you know about football.

Funny but I don't seem to remember SC doing much of anything between 1984 and 2k2.

As for these boards, SC fan was non-existant until Pete Carrol came around then we have you and a few others. I was here posting when Mac II was bumbling around the 40 acres, I was here for the 97 4-7 team. I was here in 2k when blOwU hung 63 on us, and again in 2k3 when they did it again. I have been here representing my team. You have not, so kiss my ass front runner.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:39 pm

Van wrote:Vito, let's not go overboard here...

Yeah, Texas squeaked by USC in the Rose Bowl. That fact however in no way equates to you owning me.

Last I checked, neither of us suited up for that one.

Last I checked, that game was so close that neither team can lay claim to owning the other.

Your favorite team eeked out a huge win over my favorite team. Period.

I can appreciate that, but the fact is I took a lot of shit from SoCal fans on this board and stood my ground. My team proved me right. That is how I define my ownage of Socal fan. Not the margin of victory but the fact that I was right in my predictions.

I didn't play, I just watched the game and knew what Texas was bringing and also knew what USC was bringing. I called my shot and was right.

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:46 pm

Vito, please, if you never do another thing on this board, do us all a favor and never make THIS comparison again...

Ask OU Fan? Why not Ask Kal fan how gracious sc has been? Why not ask Auburn fan how gracious Bama fan is? Why not ask Michigan fan how gracious tOSU fan is?

Kal is NOT our rival, like all those other rivalry games you listed. USC is barely even cognizant of Kal's existence as a lasting football entity.

Kal would be Kansas to Texas fan...Ole Miss to 'Bama fan...Illinois to OSU fan...

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:00 pm

Vito, please. You didn't call your shot. You didn't predict that Leinart would go for over 300 yards and Lendale would tromple you and Reggie would inexplicably have a brain freeze and lateral away what turned out to be the margin of victory. You certainly didn't predict that USC would be up by 12 with six minutes left in the game and that USC would then go into a prevent offensive/defensive mode to let it all slip away.

What you predicted was that USC had never seen a defense like that of Texas and that USC wouldn't be able to roll them like USC rolled every other defense.

500+ total yards, 200+ yards on the ground and a miscues laden 38 points pretty much buried your prediction.

Yes, you did predict a Texas victory. You then sat back and proceeded just like the rest of us to watch a game for the ages that held more twists and turns than Laguna Seca.

You can call me a liar if you wish but with the way that game hinged on a single play or two there was no way I was ever going to come back in here once it was over and claim any major 'bode over Texas Fan if we'd won. No way. That game ended up being a coin toss and it came up heads for you, is all.

"Ownage" would be more along the lines of USC vs UCLA of late, or Texas vs Colorado. That Rose Bowl game? Nobody got "owned" there, except each team's defense.

Bottom line, it'll hurt forever but at least I can say we were in maybe the greatest game ever and we were right there in it with a chance to win it. I'll also say that by and large Texas Fan was as classy as could be, throughout.

No complaints.

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:03 pm

Vito...Hate to break it to you but:

1984 Season (1985 Rose Bowl) Southern Cal beat tOSU in the Rose Bowl.
1988 Season (1989 Rose Bowl) they were PAC 10 Champs and lost 22-14 to Michigan in the Rose Bowl
1989 Season (1990 Rose Bowl) they were PAC 10 champs and won the Rose Bowl
1995 Season (1996 Rose Bowl) they were PAC 10 Co - Champs and won the Rose Bowl
2002 Season (2003 Orange Bowl) they were PAC 10 Co - Champs and skull Fucked Iowa in the Orange Bowl
2003 Season (2004 Rose Bowl) they were PAC 10 Champs and beat Michigan in the Rose Bowl
2004 Season (2005 Orange Bowl) they were PAC 10 Champs, butt fucked OU in the mouth in the Orange Bowl and were National Champions
2005 Season (2006 Rose Bowl) they were PAC 10 Champs, and lost to UT in the Rose Bowl

so your assertion they were nothing between 1984 through 2002 is baseless since it is a known fact (i used the records according to CFB datawarehouse) that they were involved in a lot of Rose Bowls and won conference Championships.

Between 1985 and 1989 Texas won no more than 8 games in a season
Between 1990 and 1994 Texas had ONE 10 game winning season
Not until 1995 when Mack came in did they start winning 9 to 10 games with regularity
and until 2004 they played in ONE Sugar Bowl and ONE Fiesta Bowl (lossses to VA Tech and PSU) but the Cotton and Holiday were their home away from home more times than not between 1995 and 2003...

Just throwin some facts into the mix...just sayin'

just saw Vans post...good post...same with tOSU vs Miami...great game...lots of twists...awesome...