Was Jesus resurrected?

[Y2K]

I agree a hollywood film is hardly proof of anything

So you're saying that the German's DIDN'T bomb Pearl Harbor?

[Mister Bushice]

Not only that, but John Blutarsky never became a senator.

I know I know. hard to believe. Hollywood bastards.

[Tom In VA]

Not only that, but John Blutarsky never became a senator.

I know I know. hard to believe. Hollywood bastards.

Ted Kennedy did though. Now is that "art imitating life, or life imitating art" ?



Of course, Ted isn't and wasn't as cool as Bluto.

[Hobbes]

http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/to ... 02-ah-1024

I checked out that link. Sounds like ratings whoring to me. The assertion is that the tomb belonged to Jesus' family.

In the feature documentary The Lost Tomb of Jesus a case is made that the 2,000-year-old "Tomb of the Ten Ossuaries" belonged to the family of Jesus of Nazareth.

Only thing is, Jesus was buried in a tomb owned by Joseph of Arimathea. So, even if it was a tomb of Jesus' family, there's a loophole there that the bones within only belong to them, not to Jesus.

[IndianaJones]They're digging in the wrong place![/IndianaJones]

[Bizzarofelice]

Hilarious.

You're so predictably easy to bait.

You elicited a one word response from me. Well done.

You need to fish for people who buy your shit. So far you've found an entire message board and about seven employers who don't think you rate.

[Mister Bushice]

Only thing is, Jesus was buried in a tomb owned by Joseph of Arimathea.

The odd thing is the writing on the side of the tomb says "He who is valiant, and pure of spirit, may find the Holy Grail, in the Castle of... aaaaaagggh.'"

[Jay in Phoenix]

The odd thing is the writing on the side of the tomb says "He who is valiant, and pure of spirit, may find the Holy Grail, in the Castle of... aaaaaauugggh.'"

It's the legendary Black Beast of aaauuugh!

Run away!

[Voice of Reason]

I haven't followed this story enough to know if these guys are full of shit or not, but I do find it funny that you have people that believe in something without any tangible evidence saying that they would only believe it with DNA evidence.

In the end, it doesn't matter. These guys might have found Jesus' real tomb, but Christians will not accept it regardless of how much evidence they might have to show.

Odds are that they have more evidence to support their conclusion than evidence there is of his ressurrection, however.

[Tom In VA]

I hate it when trolls break character.

[Rich Fader]

I haven't followed this story enough to know if these guys are full of shit or not, but I do find it funny that you have people that believe in something without any tangible evidence saying that they would only believe it with DNA evidence.

In the end, it doesn't matter. These guys might have found Jesus' real tomb, but Christians will not accept it regardless of how much evidence they might have to show.

Odds are that they have more evidence to support their conclusion than evidence there is of his ressurrection, however.

Remind me not to ask you who you like on sports bets.

Again, it's really simple. I don't know if they have what they say they have. I tend to believe not. I do know that even if they do, it's pretty much impossible for them to know, either. I mean, how would they know? God told them? An angel gave them a book printed on gold that said so? I mean, what? I can tell you as an absolute certainty that it's not because they have forensic evidence worth a damn. Not unless they time-traveled back and got it themselves from the individuals in question. I can just see those two chasing Joseph and Mary and the kid through the streets with DNA swabs and I can just hear Joseph going "Get away from us, you [bleeping] freaks!" (which would have been a pretty entertaining thing to hear in the original Aramaic, I'm guessing). Can't you? No, let's be real. That didn't happen. I'm a holy-roller Christer and I can figure that out. Surely you free-thinking, rational, non-superstitious types are capable of thinking that one through yourselves.

...

Mensas.

[Atomic Punk]

You elicited a one word response from me. Well done.

You need to fish for people who buy your shit. So far you've found an entire message board and about seven employers who don't think you rate.

Oh, the self-anointed "funnay" :roll: dork gets bent out of shape when the subject of catching dogs or even a higher power is in the conversation. No surprise there.

But hey, we just broke out "job smack" on each other. Go continue to gallop around while banging coconuts together. Hell, you don't even know what your favorite color is when under stress at the bridge.

You're such a bitter crybaby douchebag Bace. But good news is ahead for you. You have 10 months to prepare "eye smack" with the reinqueer trolls on me. I expect a better effort in December.

[Bizzarofelice]

Save yourself the future shame and die already.

[Atomic Punk]

Oh, poor baby Douchefeces now wants me to "die already."

Tell you what fuckhead, when you roll those octagon looking dice, and get the combination you really want... tell me how I'm going to die. You and your reach-around buddies must strokin' it right about now.

Remember Bacebag, you have 10 months to prepare epic reinqueer smack. Get busy you fucking piece of shit.

[Voice of Reason]

I haven't followed this story enough to know if these guys are full of shit or not, but I do find it funny that you have people that believe in something without any tangible evidence saying that they would only believe it with DNA evidence.

In the end, it doesn't matter. These guys might have found Jesus' real tomb, but Christians will not accept it regardless of how much evidence they might have to show.

Odds are that they have more evidence to support their conclusion than evidence there is of his ressurrection, however.

Remind me not to ask you who you like on sports bets.

Again, it's really simple. I don't know if they have what they say they have. I tend to believe not. I do know that even if they do, it's pretty much impossible for them to know, either. I mean, how would they know? God told them? An angel gave them a book printed on gold that said so? I mean, what? I can tell you as an absolute certainty that it's not because they have forensic evidence worth a damn. Not unless they time-traveled back and got it themselves from the individuals in question. I can just see those two chasing Joseph and Mary and the kid through the streets with DNA swabs and I can just hear Joseph going "Get away from us, you [bleeping] freaks!" (which would have been a pretty entertaining thing to hear in the original Aramaic, I'm guessing). Can't you? No, let's be real. That didn't happen. I'm a holy-roller Christer and I can figure that out. Surely you free-thinking, rational, non-superstitious types are capable of thinking that one through yourselves.

...

Mensas.

They could have dug up a post-it note, taped to a popsicle-stick grave marker with the word "Jebus" writen in crayon and it would be more evidence than any that prove his ressurection.

[Bizzarofelice]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've already smacked me for being a constant reminder of my father's shortcomings. Try something new.

Guess I'm all out of new.

[rozy]

Which were written by his devoted disciples from 30 to as much as 80 years after his death.

And how did they die? And isn't it amazing how eerily exact their recounts were? Even after aaaaall those years...

[poptart]

Silly rozy.
Those were not the real disciples.

The REAL disciples are in Geraldo's basement ..... in the corner, next to a couple o' empty Pabst cans.


Special at 11 ..... o'cock.

[Atomic Punk]

Guess I'm all out of new.

Yeah, pretty much you "duck and spin" pile of crap. "FTFY smack" is the latest "blast" you offer. Remember Douchefelice, you have 10 months to create a Morrissey-inspired poem for the reach-around crowd you need for back up your hilarious next effort. I hope the divine steps in and gives you new eye smack, job smack, nurse smack, and fat smack. After all, that's all you have to go on, right? The thing is, none of that shit is even valid and yet you turds keep going with it.

When Dins rips me a new one, it's funnay. When you do it, you are hiding behind a circle-jerk.

So yeah douche, you are "all out of new."

[Mister Bushice]

We should also add Mr.Bushice in the role as The Doubting Thomas and see how he comes around when Jesus does the 'water to wine' thing.
Mace

Bet your ass I'd be all "OK, now do Beer"

And if he made up some cheap ass Coors piss, you gotta know I'd be throwing down with Jesus H.

Maybe toss that into the script. Might make for some good death threats. :)

[Truman]

But, but, but, they have proof he was resurrected. The bible itself says so, therefore it must be true. Finger of god wrote it, you see.

Perfect. Care to point me to the well-read and accepted authority that suggests HE didn't?

Gold, Jerry.

Indeed.

Jerry is Jewish, BTW.

A St. Louis athiest?

Now there's a leap...

[Mister Bushice]

We should also add Mr.Bushice in the role as The Doubting Thomas and see how he comes around when Jesus does the 'water to wine' thing.
Mace

Bet your ass I'd be all "OK, now do Beer"

And if he made up some cheap ass Coors piss, you gotta know I'd be throwing down with Jesus H.

Maybe toss that into the script. Might make for some good death threats. :)

Now seriously, how much of a miracle would it be to turn water into Coors when there's no noticeable difference between the two?

Exactly my point. All he'd have to do is piss in a gourd filled with water when no one was looking, then wave his hand over it later when they were looking. The believers would drink it and be saying "Jesus, that's Rocky Mountain Fresh"

What'll it take to convince you, Bushice? Boone's Farm?

Damn Mace. I didn't know you slummed that hard. For me it's gotta be a good pilsner or nothing. Last time I had Boones farm was when I was 16 and the wino who bought for me came back with two bottles, one for him, one for me. Fucker. I asked for Vodka.

Man, you're a hard sell. I'm thinkin' I shoulda cast you as the devil.

Foosball is the devil, but I'll audition if you want.

[Louis Cyphre]

I think it's ridiculous for anyone to try pinning paternity of Mary Magdelen's children on Jesus when we know for a fact that Luther was roaming the streets at that time. Cameron needs to get a DNA sample from Luther before airing this film, IMO.....that is, IF he wants to document the facts.

Whooooah, there Mace. You might just be on to something here. Of course, ol' Luth's form of healing didn't come from the laying of hands. In fact, I heard he once parted the Red Sea...or was it a glass of port, with his "swizzle stick". At that time, his peeps were calling him Moses or something.

One thing is certain, you're off the hook Mace ol' buddy. While I know you had a passing fancy for ol' Mary Mags and the 7, your true feeling lay elsewhere, away in a manger, with a very "sheepish" look in your eye.

Of course, if Mary Magdelen was a fat, ugly skank, it coulda been someone from the Dinsdale clan that knocked her up. Ridiculous, you say? Yeah, kinda like some Hollywood whackjob coming out with "evidence" and trying to make a few million bucks. Go figure. Personally, I like my story better.

Me too Mace. Although perhaps a slight tweak to the casting:

Dinsdale ancestor played by Charlie Sheen (nice call, especially if he has that balding Artie Mitchell look from 'Rated X'.)
Mary Magdelen played by Miss Conduct (nah, you've gotta go with Cinder all the way.)
Jesus played by Poptart (amen)
Luther plays himself (not only himself, but Moses, Methuzala and Noah -- a shoo in for next years Oscars!)
Bartender in the motel bar played by Goober (with nostra in a cameo as a "lady of indulgence")
Mary Magdelen's kids played by KCKid and Kaley (or Cicero and "friend")

Narration by Mike the Lab Rat (since Rod Serling is dead, bet)

I like it.

Mace

Cut and print.

Cinder would be perfect for the part, Jay, but she'd have to gain 40-50 pounds for Dins to hit on her. Luther as Moses would be awesome, and I suspect Charleton Heston would be envious. We should also add Mr.Bushice in the role as The Doubting Thomas and see how he comes around when Jesus does the 'water to wine' thing. I like the casting changes....let's go with it.

Mace

Can I please play this part?




Please?

[Bizzarofelice]

Not surprised that Atomic MaleNurse is so comfortable with terms like douche. Other insults in his repetoire:
--colostomy change
--staph wipe
--bed pan spill

Shit. That reads like AP's resume.

He just keeps bending hoping for a well hung doctor to come and take his temp. I think his dignity is chain-stoking. He comes to the board to unwind and faces even more beat downs. Shitty life.

Perfect. Care to point me to the well-read and accepted authority that suggests HE didn't?

Gold, Jerry.

Indeed.

Jerry is Jewish, BTW.

A St. Louis athiest?

Now there's a leap...

you have a point to make or did you just interrupt this thread to start playing $25,000 Pyramid throwing out crap.

Things that don't make sense... Things that don't support Truman's case...

[Atomic Punk]

Not surprised that Atomic MaleNurse is so comfortable with terms like douche. Other insults in his repetoire:
--colostomy change
--staph wipe
--bed pan spill

Shit. That reads like AP's resume.

He just keeps bending hoping for a well hung doctor to come and take his temp. I think his dignity is chain-stoking. He comes to the board to unwind and faces even more beat downs. Shitty life.

See? Did I not just predict Baceless' next response with my last post? Tell me I didn't write his response for that fucking twat.. please. Oh, I'm getting an alleged "beat down" also from Bacetwat. Wow. Aren't you on the Nextel/Singularless "circle jerk" plan where you have back-up?

Yep, Baceless, you are funnay as you claim. You are so good at smack and are only just one hand-job away from validation from a nut buddy for your next response I've laid out up the page.

[420]

Jerry is Jewish, BTW.

huh?

What's going on here?

...and I'm not Jerry.

[Mister Bushice]

Whooooah, there Mace. You might just be on to something here. Of course, ol' Luth's form of healing didn't come from the laying of hands. In fact, I heard he once parted the Red Sea...or was it a glass of port, with his "swizzle stick". At that time, his peeps were calling him Moses or something.

One thing is certain, you're off the hook Mace ol' buddy. While I know you had a passing fancy for ol' Mary Mags and the 7, your true feeling lay elsewhere, away in a manger, with a very "sheepish" look in your eye.
Me too Mace. Although perhaps a slight tweak to the casting:

Dinsdale ancestor played by Charlie Sheen (nice call, especially if he has that balding Artie Mitchell look from 'Rated X'.)
Mary Magdelen played by Miss Conduct (nah, you've gotta go with Cinder all the way.)
Jesus played by Poptart (amen)
Luther plays himself (not only himself, but Moses, Methuzala and Noah -- a shoo in for next years Oscars!)
Bartender in the motel bar played by Goober (with nostra in a cameo as a "lady of indulgence")
Mary Magdelen's kids played by KCKid and Kaley (or Cicero and "friend")

Narration by Mike the Lab Rat (since Rod Serling is dead, bet)
Cut and print.

Cinder would be perfect for the part, Jay, but she'd have to gain 40-50 pounds for Dins to hit on her. Luther as Moses would be awesome, and I suspect Charleton Heston would be envious. We should also add Mr.Bushice in the role as The Doubting Thomas and see how he comes around when Jesus does the 'water to wine' thing. I like the casting changes....let's go with it.

Mace

Can I please play this part?




Please?

not bad, Host of others.

[Rich Fader]

I haven't followed this story enough to know if these guys are full of shit or not, but I do find it funny that you have people that believe in something without any tangible evidence saying that they would only believe it with DNA evidence.

In the end, it doesn't matter. These guys might have found Jesus' real tomb, but Christians will not accept it regardless of how much evidence they might have to show.

Odds are that they have more evidence to support their conclusion than evidence there is of his ressurrection, however.

Remind me not to ask you who you like on sports bets.

Again, it's really simple. I don't know if they have what they say they have. I tend to believe not. I do know that even if they do, it's pretty much impossible for them to know, either. I mean, how would they know? God told them? An angel gave them a book printed on gold that said so? I mean, what? I can tell you as an absolute certainty that it's not because they have forensic evidence worth a damn. Not unless they time-traveled back and got it themselves from the individuals in question. I can just see those two chasing Joseph and Mary and the kid through the streets with DNA swabs and I can just hear Joseph going "Get away from us, you [bleeping] freaks!" (which would have been a pretty entertaining thing to hear in the original Aramaic, I'm guessing). Can't you? No, let's be real. That didn't happen. I'm a holy-roller Christer and I can figure that out. Surely you free-thinking, rational, non-superstitious types are capable of thinking that one through yourselves.

...

Mensas.

They could have dug up a post-it note, taped to a popsicle-stick grave marker with the word "Jebus" writen in crayon and it would be more evidence than any that prove his ressurection.

Call me when they find the body and can prove it's Him...er, I guess if they ever found the body it'd be "him", not "Him". This wasn't it, okay? I mean, if you don't believe He rose from the dead, that's fine, but don't be stupid about the actual, observable facts of the case.

[Jay in Phoenix]

Man, you're a hard sell. I'm thinkin' I shoulda cast you as the devil.

Foosball is the devil, but I'll audition if you want.

Bushice as Big Nick, turning fine wine into warm Coors Light

[Dinsdale]

but don't be stupid about the actual, observable facts of the case.

Uhm....OUT!

Sin,
christians

[Voice of Reason]

if you don't believe He rose from the dead, that's fine, but don't be stupid about the actual, observable facts of the case.

That statement really doesn't make any sense, considering that belief that he rose from the dead requires ignoring observable facts.

[Dinsdale]

if you seriously believe that a dead man rose and then (conveniently) went to heaven, you are a fucking idiot.

Of course He didn't.

He took a 40-day vacation to America before He went home to Heaven.

Sin,
An Even Bigger Bunch of Idiots (whose "facts" about Jesus and whatnot have been disproven by DNA evidence...but they don't let them keep little things like facts get in the way of that money-machine)



mvscal...read up on Mormon pathology yet? I really think you'd enjoy it.

[BSmack]

mvscal...read up on Mormon pathology yet? I really think you'd enjoy it.

The LDS was hatched in Wayne County, NY. That's all any sensible person needs to know about Mormon pathology. For a good look at the "pathology" of Wayne County, check out their local newspaper's police blotter. It's been a running feature on FM Morning drive time here for the last 15 years.

http://www.waynetimes.com/police.html

[poptart]

......if you seriously believe that a dead man rose and then (conveniently) went to heaven, you are a fucking idiot.

What does it make you if you believe that life ..... somehow ...... magically arose from non-life without a Creator .... ?

[Mister Bushice]

A Scientist?

[poptart]

a fool

[Mike the Lab Rat]

What does it make you if you believe that life ..... somehow ...... magically arose from non-life without a Creator .... ?

Dr. Jack Szostak or a member of his lab. Or anyone who finds his research supporting the current hypotheses on how life began valid. The man and his lab are, step by step, showing precisely how the whole "primordial soup" thang may have worked.

I'm just worried that one of his newly-created life forms will get out and go "Andromeda Strain" on our asses...

EDIT: Oh, and before someone pulls the "but scientists can't use abiogenesis" card, I'll mention that the disproved concept of abiogenesis refers to the old ideas that leaving meat out causes maggots to magically appear or that horse hairs become worms when placed in water. The hypothesis that life originally arose from the whole primordial soup she-bang has been around AT LEAST 30 years (I was taught it when I was in high school), and regardless of any alleged flaws in Urey & Miller's old experiment, the fact remains that Szostak's lab, using precisely the stuff that was hypothesized to be around way back when, is well on its way to strongly supporting the primordial soup hypothesis by creating RNA-based life.

[Tom In VA]

I'm just worried that one of his newly-created life forms will get out and go "Andromeda Strain" on our asses...

Interesting notion and bound to happen at some point don't you ?



WAR Causa Sui.

[Mike the Lab Rat]

I'm just worried that one of his newly-created life forms will get out and go "Andromeda Strain" on our asses...

Interesting notion and bound to happen at some point don't you ?

My school district told me last semester that I had to teach an elective course.

On anything I wanted. My course, my rules.

I chose "infectious diseases".

The more my students read and research, the more freaked they all become. Lots of weird, nasty critters that can do horrible things to us (various jungle-originating viruses, e.g.) are spreading or about to spread.

I won't be happy until all the kids in the class wind up obsessive-compulsive.

[poptart]

........the fact remains that Szostak's lab, using precisely the stuff that was
hypothesized to be around way back when, is well on its way to strongly
supporting the primordial soup hypothesis by creating RNA-based life.







fools

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

........the fact remains that Szostak's lab, using precisely the stuff that was
hypothesized to be around way back when, is well on its way to strongly
supporting the primordial soup hypothesis by creating RNA-based life.







fools

It's about what's more believable. Any way you slice it, your "belief" is still based essentially on magic, fairy tales, and mythology, while the "other" argument is based on science.

You might as well invest in these as your evidence...they're about as valuable as anything else you can offer up...