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As a matter of fact, the GHW Bush recession was over by October, 1992. Clinton inherited a rebounding economy, not a recession.

Chimpy, however, DID inherit a recession- as well as the 9/11 attacks and the blow they dealt the economy- attacks that were made inevitable when Clinton allowed us to get run out of Somalia, and his laughably pitiful retaliations thereafter.

That's not to say Chimpy has been even an adequate president- just marginally better than anything the DemocRats had to offer.

Tom In VA wrote: Does that dip there in the budget have anything to do with the downsizing of the military ?

Are you fucking retarded, or just ignorant?

Educate yourself, you rhetoric-slurping douchebag.

After Bush 41 got done gutting the military, there wasn't much of it left for Bubba to downsize.


Fucking kool-aid drinking dweeb. And in his defense, Bubba's special interests didn't involve making the war mongers richer. He had bigger fish to fry... fish he bought at Walmart.


But the profiteers got their boy into office, and the bombing began.


Matter of fact, the next complete ignorant dumbfuck I hear say "well, Clinton gutted the military, so we're now in a war," I'm not even going to respond, and instead I'll just punch them in their face, since there's no chance of causing a brain injury.

SunCoastSooner wrote:Not Real Estate. Sorry I think you know enough about the industry based on having read your posts that you should understand that

There's something else you should read... The Constitution of the United States of America.


Someone wanna remind me which part empowers the fed to be involved in real esate deals in any way, shape or form?

I'll leave the light on for you.


See, us conservatives actually believe in the rule of law.

and certainly not the national oil reserve!

The oil reserves are a very, very simple problem to solve -- make the oilcompanies actually pay their bill for the oil they drill that belongs to the American People.

The lack of outrage over that boondoggle is alarming... alomost. The average American has become so ignorant and sheepish, nothing suprises me anymore.

I'll give you the dotcom busts can be blamed on the free market.

My comments were never about blame. They were about the fed Illegally sticking their nose were it doesn't belong, and billing you for doing so.

Clinton administration policies on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac fronts inflated home prices and made it possible for underqualified people to purchase homes at adjustable rates that he knew in the long run couldn't be maintained for a quick popularity boost.

Wrong.

Flagrant trashing of the Constitution was responsible for all of it.

I'd think as a self-proclaimed "conservative," you'd understand that.


I don't remember seeing the name Fannie Mae in the Constitution. Nor do I see "regulate real estate." Nor do I see "set policies for lenders."


Man, this sucks. I could have sworn there was something in the BoR that says something like "if the Constitution doesn't grant the fed the power, then it doesn't have the power, and it's up to the individual states." Could have fucking SWORN it said something like that.


Good job making the Baby Jesus and Madison cry.

Cuda wrote:

mvscal wrote:

War Wagon wrote:Carter surgically removed the USA's balls

And Dubya stepped on them repeatedly. If he isn't the worst, he's certainly in the running.

As poor a president Chimpy may be, keep in mind that Carter did all his damage in a single term with little or no opposition from the other party. Nothing he did or tried to do failed to turn immediately to shit. Jimmah is in a league of his own.

Except of course he was primarily responsible for brokering the release of the hostages in Iran.

But go ahead and give Ronnie credit. Most Dopes do.

So that would be one for Carter, none for Bush.

Anyone here have any graphing skills?

If so, grab a piece of graph paper.

Now, pick a number... any random number will do.

Graph that number. This represents the federal budget.

Now, on the next X, take that number, and add 10%, and graph it. This represents a year.


On the next X, take the last figure, and add 10%. Graph it.


Do that a few times.


When you very quickly need to tape another piece of graph paper to the top to continue graphing, mail it to Bush. Because that's what he has (criminally) done to you.


Funny, a guy who promotes "no child left behind (remind me which part of the Constitution puts the fed in charge of education?) has absolutely no math skills whatsoever. Or more likely, has those skills, and is laughing his fucking ass off at you.

Mister Bushice wrote: Except of course he was primarily responsible for brokering the release of the hostages in Iran.

He was also primarily responsible for them being taken hostage in the first fucking place.

"Oh, the Ayatollah is a man of God... we can reason together"

Cuda wrote:He was also primarily responsible for them being taken hostage in the first fucking place.

Please tell me you didn't just type that?

Please?

Pretty sure Carter wasn't the president in 1953.

Dinsdale wrote: Someone wanna remind me which part empowers the fed to be involved in real esate deals in any way, shape or form?

Does the Louisiana Purchase ring a bell?

Dinsdale wrote: After Bush 41 got done gutting the military, there wasn't much of it left for Bubba to downsize.

Not entirely true. Bush started the downsizing to be sure, no argument from me. Clinton cut it too. My point in that matter wasn't that "Clinton gutted the military", but that as a result of the end of the cold war the military was able to be downsized. In essence Clinton reaped benefits of Reagan's efforts. The effects of presidential decisions and policy aren't always instant, rarely are in fact.

mvscal wrote:

Cuda wrote:That's not to say Chimpy has been even an adequate president- just marginally better than anything the DemocRats had to offer.

That is utter nonsense. He might be marginally better than the peanut farming dildo from Georgia, but even that is arguable.

Basically anybody not in the discussion for worst president ever is more than marginally better than Smirky McChimpenfuhrer.

Yet you voted for him. Twice. And pimped him continuously on these boards all the while.

Nice job at the voting booth.

Dinsdale wrote:

Cuda wrote:He was also primarily responsible for them being taken hostage in the first fucking place.

Please tell me you didn't just type that?

Please?

Pretty sure Carter wasn't the president in 1953.

1953 had nothing to fucking do with it. Contrary to leftist belief, the CIA didn't overthrow a popularly elected head of state- they stopped the overthrow of the existing head of state (the Shah) by a communist puppet. Khomeni was just another in a line of KGB funded would-be successors to Mossadegh. And Carter played right into their hands.

Dinsdale wrote:(remind me which part of the Constitution puts the fed in charge of education?)

And here are the inevitable results...


Another proud graduate of our public schools.

mvscal wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote:Yet you voted for him. Twice.

I didn't vote for him even once.

OK, who did you vote for in 2000 and 2004?

Dinsdale wrote:

SunCoastSooner wrote:Not Real Estate. Sorry I think you know enough about the industry based on having read your posts that you should understand that

There's something else you should read... The Constitution of the United States of America.


Someone wanna remind me which part empowers the fed to be involved in real esate deals in any way, shape or form?

I'll leave the light on for you.


See, us conservatives actually believe in the rule of law.

and certainly not the national oil reserve!

The oil reserves are a very, very simple problem to solve -- make the oilcompanies actually pay their bill for the oil they drill that belongs to the American People.

The lack of outrage over that boondoggle is alarming... alomost. The average American has become so ignorant and sheepish, nothing suprises me anymore.

I'll give you the dotcom busts can be blamed on the free market.

My comments were never about blame. They were about the fed Illegally sticking their nose were it doesn't belong, and billing you for doing so.

Clinton administration policies on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac fronts inflated home prices and made it possible for underqualified people to purchase homes at adjustable rates that he knew in the long run couldn't be maintained for a quick popularity boost.

Wrong.

Flagrant trashing of the Constitution was responsible for all of it.

I'd think as a self-proclaimed "conservative," you'd understand that.


I don't remember seeing the name Fannie Mae in the Constitution. Nor do I see "regulate real estate." Nor do I see "set policies for lenders."


Man, this sucks. I could have sworn there was something in the BoR that says something like "if the Constitution doesn't grant the fed the power, then it doesn't have the power, and it's up to the individual states." Could have fucking SWORN it said something like that.


Good job making the Baby Jesus and Madison cry.

Dins you're right in what you say but not in practice and can't say I disagree with you. You know exactly what happens to 90% of the loans made by lending instituitions in the country...

I also partly agree about the oil. But once again we aren't discussing theory we are discussing practice.

What was it you are always saying about assuming things?

mvscal wrote:

Dinsdale wrote:make the oilcompanies actually pay their bill for the oil they drill that belongs to the American People.

And you actually have the nerve to call yourself a conservative? Pull your head out of ass, you fucking idiot.

There is no such thing as "oil that belongs to the American people." That collectivist bullshit is straight out of the communist playbook, you ignorant dipshit.

We have these crazy things attached to deeds called Mineral rights... if not multiple members of my family have boondoggling the American people for decades arguing about these things in courts across Oklahoma and Texass.