Truman wrote:If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.
if only Truman was smart enough to listen to what Obama actually said.
If only Bace was smart enough to understand what Truman actually wrote.
I think War Wagon might be smarter than Truman. And that's not a good thing.
I think the electorate, come November, might be smarter than Bace. And that's a good thing.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:37 am
by Bizzarofelice
mvscal wrote:
Bizzarofelice wrote:
Truman wrote:If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.
if only Truman was smart enough to listen to what Obama actually said.
That is what he actually said, you brainless fuckwit.
you're this dumb, as well? maybe not so much dumb as stubborn and dedicated to his chosen side despite overwhelming proof to the contrary. intellectually dishonest. duly noted.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:38 am
by Bizzarofelice
Truman wrote:
I think the electorate, come November, might be smarter than Bace.
you may have forgotten a previous meltdown of yours; college graduates overwhelmingly support Obama over Romney.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:40 am
by mvscal
Truman wrote:I think the electorate, come November, might be smarter than Bace.
Maybe, but I wouldn't count on it. We have become a nation of gutless, dumbed down morons hopelessly addicted to catastrophic levels of government spending. Public education has failed and by deliberate design.
We are electing the new captain of the Titanic. We've already hit the iceberg but the band will play on for a bit longer.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:44 am
by mvscal
Bizzarofelice wrote:you're this dumb, as well? maybe not so much dumb as stubborn and dedicated to his chosen side despite overwhelming proof to the contrary. intellectually dishonest. duly noted.
It's a quote, you fucking idiot.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:57 am
by War Wagon
Bizzarofelice wrote:I think War Wagon might be smarter than Truman. And that's not a good thing.
I would never claim to be smarter than Truman and while I'm not given to saying I'm smarter than anybody else who posts here, I'm most definitely smarter than the college edumacated fuckwit who calls himself Bizzarofelice and constantly pats himself on the back for being smart.
a mind is a terrible thing to waste and so was your tuition. If you had a taxpayer subsidized student loan, I want a refund.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:02 am
by Truman
Bizzarofelice wrote:
Truman wrote:
I think the electorate, come November, might be smarter than Bace.
you may have forgotten a previous meltdown of yours; college graduates overwhelmingly support Obama over Romney.
Meltdown, eh? Or was it another occasion of Truman running you screaming out of yet another thread? But to address your non-sequitur:
And white males overwhelmingly support Romney over Obama. You wanna go demographic by demographic? What the hell is your point, Bace?!
this guys sums it up. mvscal is more interested in sucking off his GOP lords than facing the truth. his choice.
when you burp be sure to do so in Truman's direction. he wants in on that action.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:07 am
by Bizzarofelice
Truman wrote:Truman running you
with no trepidation I can say that this has never happened. ever.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:08 am
by Truman
mvscal wrote:
We are electing the new captain of the Titanic. We've already hit the iceberg but the band will play on for a bit longer.
I don't disagree. But forgive me for believing that a concerted, focused effort might actually right the ship. Pretzel logic, I know...
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:10 am
by Bizzarofelice
War Wagon wrote: I'm most definitely smarter than the college edumacated fuckwit who calls himself Bizzarofelice
explain.
and it wasn't a taxpayer subsidized loan. it was a scholarship. 90% of my tuition paid by the state. I never had college loans.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:10 am
by Truman
Bizzarofelice wrote:
Truman wrote:Truman running you
with no trepidation I can say that this has never happened. ever.
Nope. Only occurs when you mash "submit."
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:27 am
by War Wagon
Bizzarofelice wrote:
War Wagon wrote: I'm most definitely smarter than the college edumacated fuckwit who calls himself Bizzarofelice
explain.
and it wasn't a taxpayer subsidized loan. it was a scholarship. 90% of my tuition paid by the state. I never had college loans.
you just explained it.
the state paid your tuition, but it wasn't taxpayer subsidized?
My gawd man, where do you think that state money came from?
Now I really want that refund.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:28 am
by Truman
KC Scott wrote:
Truman wrote:
mvscal wrote:
We are electing the new captain of the Titanic. We've already hit the iceberg but the band will play on for a bit longer.
I don't disagree. But forgive me for believing that a concerted, focused effort might actually right the ship. Pretzel logic, I know...
Sure Tru... but it starts with the Seniors giving back some of their entitlements
Wanna check with wolfie on how he'd vote for that?
So grandfather the grandfathers. We've been saying ever since we were kids that Social Security "wasn't gonna be there". You mentioned on page nine of another thread that there are hard choices to be made.
Start that thread, Scott. The topic is too good to be buried nine pages deep. I want to read your take - as well as 88's and mvscal's - and watch this Board kick it around for another nine pages....
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:50 am
by Truman
So where's Obamacare on your chart? Or do we need a bigger pie?
What's wrong with kicking around a smaller pie? Perhaps some of that mandatory spending ought to be a bit more discretionary....
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:02 am
by Bizzarofelice
War Wagon wrote:it wasn't taxpayer subsidized?
me wrote:90% of my tuition paid by the state
looks like I explained it pretty good right there. I don't understand where you got confused. no loans. scholarship.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:53 pm
by pron
Not into politics, but yeah they've given me all I need to know, and I'm damn sure not voting for Romney. :brad:
Former Justice Department official Patrick Trueman, who proudly participated in federal pornography prosecutions during their “heyday” in the late 1980s and early 1990s, told The Daily Caller that Mitt Romney’s campaign assured him that Romney would “vigorously” prosecute pornographers if elected president.
Trueman, the president of Morality in Media, contacted the Romney campaign earlier this year about the “untreated pandemic” of Internet pornography. “They got back to us right away,” he said.
Bob Flores, another former Justice Department official who prosecuted pornographers, accompanied Trueman to an hour-long meeting with Romney foreign and legal policy director Alex Wong, Trueman said.
“Wong assured us that Romney is very concerned with this, and that if he’s elected these laws will be enforced,” Trueman told TheDC. ”They promised to vigorously enforce federal adult obscenity laws.”
Trueman said he would like for Romney to speak publicly about cracking down on porn, but believes Romney avoids the subject because he “saw that Rick Santorum got beat up in the mainstream press for being so forthright.”
“With respect to Romney, I believe him,” said Trueman, “but I’d like to make sure he means it.”
Trueman said convictions for distributing porn that displays group sex, simulated rape, incest, psuedo child porn, violence or unusual fetishes — such as “scat” porn — are relatively easy. But, he said, “unless it’s just waist-up nudity of women’s breasts it probably can be found obscene somewhere in the country.”
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:54 pm
by mvscal
Truman wrote:
mvscal wrote:
We are electing the new captain of the Titanic. We've already hit the iceberg but the band will play on for a bit longer.
I don't disagree. But forgive me for believing that a concerted, focused effort might actually right the ship. Pretzel logic, I know...
That isn't even pretzel logic. It's just pure wishful thinking. I get it. I keep having this same conversation with my Dad. He thinks the same way.
Unfortunately, we're 16 trillion dollars in debt and the hole gets deeper by 4 billion dollars every day. We can't grow our way out of this hole and we can't tax our way out of it especially with our diminishing taxbase. It's over. Humpty Dumpty has had his great fall and all the Fed's horses and all the Fed's men will not able to put him together again.
The crash and burn is inevitable. We could shut down the entire Federal government, delete every department, agency and contractor and it would not suffice to balance the budget. We are now locked into a state of permanent deficit spending and that is a death spiral. Sure there will be people living in the geographic area formerly known as the United States and they might even call themselves Americans, but the country we know is a headless chicken running around spraying red ink all over the barnyard.
Change, if it comes at all, will be coming out of the barrel of a gun not the voting booth.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:07 pm
by Derron
War Wagon wrote:
Bizzarofelice wrote:
War Wagon wrote: I'm most definitely smarter than the college edumacated fuckwit who calls himself Bizzarofelice
explain.
and it wasn't a taxpayer subsidized loan. it was a scholarship. 90% of my tuition paid by the state. I never had college loans.
you just explained it.
the state paid your tuition, but it wasn't taxpayer subsidized?
My gawd man, where do you think that state money came from?
Now I really want that refund.
Just like Bubba Cliton never had sex with that woman since she just sucked him off. Jizzarofellatio sucks off the state for his college, but since 90% of it was paid by the state, it is not tax subsidized.
Typical liberal thinking.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:15 pm
by Derron
mvscal wrote:
That isn't even pretzel logic. It's just pure wishful thinking. I get it. I keep having this same conversation with my Dad. He thinks the same way.
Unfortunately, we're 16 trillion dollars in debt and the hole gets deeper by 4 billion dollars every day. We can't grow our way out of this hole and we can't tax our way out of it especially with our diminishing taxbase. It's over. Humpty Dumpty has had his great fall and all the Fed's horses and all the Fed's men will not able to put him together again.
The crash and burn is inevitable. We could shut down the entire Federal government, delete every department, agency and contractor and it would not suffice to balance the budget. We are now locked into a state of permanent deficit spending and that is a death spiral. Sure there will be people living in the geographic area formerly known as the United States and they might even call themselves Americans, but the country we know is a headless chicken running around spraying red ink all over the barnyard.
Change, if it comes at all, will be coming out of the barrel of a gun not the voting booth.
But...but..someone will come along and make it all right..won't they ? I mean..they have to..the US government is too big to fail... right ??
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:19 pm
by Van
No, he's still batshit crazy. Mainly, though, he just likes to horde, show off and brag about his guns.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:35 pm
by Truman
88 wrote:
People have been indoctrinated to believe that the the United States is not the place where you come with nothing but an opportunity to work yourself up to a better station in life, but rather it is the place where you have a right to have someone else pay for everything you deem to be fundamental to your health, saftey, welfare and existence.
Here's my question: HOW the hell did this happen? We're all about the same age here... Same eductional opportunities, same American experiences. But poll this Board, and half of 'em would respond by saying that's the way America should be. WTF?
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:43 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Truman wrote:
88 wrote:
People have been indoctrinated to believe that the the United States is not the place where you come with nothing but an opportunity to work yourself up to a better station in life, but rather it is the place where you have a right to have someone else pay for everything you deem to be fundamental to your health, saftey, welfare and existence.
Here's my question: HOW the hell did this happen?
It didn't happen. 88 is just blowing smoke rings out his ass.
The U.S. has one of the lowest rates of economic shift by individuals (getting rich by "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps" and climbing the ladder of success) in the industrialised world.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:02 pm
by mvscal
Truman wrote:Here's my question: HOW the hell did this happen?
Our cowardly predecessors traded our liberty for their security and now we will have neither.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:20 pm
by mvscal
KC Scott wrote:Geitner could issue more long term notes at today's lower rates (about 1%) and buy back the higher short tem debt for starters. rearrange the deck chairs.
FTFY
4 billion dollars every 24 hours and accelerating. Tick tock.
Why do you think all the global money has been pouring into US Treasuries if we're destined for a Greece like apocolypse?
Because there is nowhere else to put it. For better or for worse, the USA is the engine that drives the global economy. When we crash and burn, the world will crash and burn. There won't be anyone to buy cheap Chinese shit. There won't be anyone on the other end of the line for Indian and Filipino call centers. There won't be any buyers for high end European exports.
The global economy we know today was the step forward and the future our children experience will be the proverbial two steps back. It isn't the first time something like this has happened. The last time it lead to a thousand years of darkness and squalor before we began to relearn things that were common knowledge centuries before.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:02 am
by mvscal
20 years? If we're lucky.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:42 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
Truman wrote:
Smackie Chan wrote:
Jsc810 wrote:November may turn out to be the biggest ass kicking in years.
Doubtful. It'll be closer than you think.
Indeed. CBS/New York Times has BO trailing by one (and yes, within the margin of error).
I'd ask Jsc if he'd like to re-think his post - but it's clear he didn't think about it the first time before he posted it.
BTW, the president isn't exactly helping his own cause:
"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."
As a small business owner, I was insulted by the arrogance and stupidity of Obama's statement. But I also realize it wasn't directed to folks like me - we aren't going to vote for him anyway.
Of course, the "that" in the quote refers to "this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive," and "roads and bridges," not to your "business." But keep spinning it nonetheless.
And Obama is right. If you have a small business that succeeded, that was due in part to the fact that government built the roads that allow your customers to come to you (and your employees and you to come to work), that government developed, or helped develop, certain things like the Postal Service and the internet which help you to conduct your business, and that government helped to educate yourself and your employees. All he was saying is that no one, including himself, accomplished his/her success entirely on his/her own.
Oh, and as to your thoughts on the election, latest electoral college projection has Obama winning 332-206. http://www.electoral-vote.com/. What's more, Romney would need a sweep of the states where current margin is </= 4% (Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia, Colorado, New Hampshire) to eke out a narrow 270-268 win.
But sadly, I think Smackie is right. Too many people are going to vote for the empty suit assclown the Republicans nominated because of his skin color, or the fact that he plays for their "team."
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:53 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
Van wrote:Diego, it's highly doubtful that anything in Romney's tax returns could constitutionally prevent him from holding the office, which does happen to be the case regarding the implications behind Obama's supposedly forged birth certificate.
Bad comparison.
True, but you forgot to consider the rest of Diego's post . . .
Diego in Seattle wrote:even after he's released it.
Oh, and let's not forget, there is the little issue of the press release in a Honolulu newspaper announcing his birth in August 1961. Apparently, the Republican/birther crowd must believe that Obama also owns a time machine and was able to transport himself back to Honolulu in 1961 to plant that announcement in the local fishwrap.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:08 pm
by Left Seater
Terry in Crapchester wrote:
Too many people are going to vote for the empty suit assclown the Republicans nominated because of his skin color, or the fact that he plays for their "team."
How is that any different than what got the current idiot elected?
I was helping out at the Houston Housing Authority during the last election and asked a ton of folks why they were voting for the current idiot. There reply was "because he looks like me", 90% couldn't name something they agreed with him policy wise.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:30 pm
by Van
Some people still like Obama. No one likes Romney.
We're getting four more years of Obama.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:00 pm
by mvscal
Terry in Crapchester wrote:If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."
Of course, the "that" in the quote refers to "this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive," and "roads and bridges," not to your "business."
I understand that you're a fucking waterhead so do you need me to diagram that sentence for you and perhaps review some of the rules of English grammar covering subordinating conjunctions and dependent clauses?
Oh....what if you own a construction business?
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:02 pm
by Van
...and again...
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:04 pm
by mvscal
Van wrote: No one likes Romney.
Who gives a fuck? They hate Obama worse and probably aren't too fond of being unemployed either.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:06 pm
by Van
"They" being people of sufficient number to vote Romney into office?
Very doubtful.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:12 pm
by Mikey
So Romney can win with 8.2% of the vote?
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:26 pm
by mvscal
Van wrote:"They" being people of sufficient number to vote Romney into office?
Yes, absolutely. I believe Romney is going to pull of some surprises. These predictions are marking states for Barry which are very much in play such as Michigan, Ohio, Florida and Virginia. I think Romney can take all four.
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:13 pm
by Mikey
mvscal wrote: I think Romney takes it on all fours.
Don't hold back now...
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:23 pm
by Derron
mvscal wrote:
Terry in Crapchester wrote:If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."
Of course, the "that" in the quote refers to "this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive," and "roads and bridges," not to your "business."
I understand that you're a fucking waterhead so do you need me to diagram that sentence for you and perhaps review some of the rules of English grammar covering subordinating conjunctions and dependent clauses?
Oh....what if you own a construction business?
What seems to escape all the libtards here is that those business's paid FUCKING TAXES that went to build that public infrastructure. Is that not what taxes are supposed to provide ? Those services ? Roads, public infrastructure to allow the business to function to make money and pay their fucking TAXES?..those fucking government cocks paid for it with TAX MONEY. Yeah..somebody else did it ..with my fucking tax money.
The government spent more time fucking with my business...pay your taxes bitch or we shut you down, levy your bank accounts...pay your personal property tax bitch...the tires on that tractor are 1 inch over the side of the trailer, I am going to have to fine you bitch...I don't care what we wrote on the building permit, we changed our mind bitch..this is what you need to do now bitch..I don't care what the code book says bitch, this is what I am saying now..
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:38 am
by Van
mvscal wrote:
Van wrote:"They" being people of sufficient number to vote Romney into office?
Yes, absolutely. I believe Romney is going to pull of some surprises. These predictions are marking states for Barry which are very much in play such as Michigan, Ohio, Florida and Virginia. I think Romney can take all four.
But you still aren't expecting Romney to win, are you?
Re: We've given you people all you need to know
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:43 am
by Van
Derron, jabbing an icepick into our eyes, wrote:those business's paid...
