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Show me one photo that I took that is of someone who doesn't know it's coming. The only one you will find is one I took to make fun of Sudden Sam. Nice try tard.

KCPedotranny,
Nice IKYABWAI.

You sure you want to go there Tiny Lawyer? Think about this real hard.

Then ask yourself, why is this even being brought up?

You know why, just be honest.

Proof is just a mouse click away.

mvscal wrote:

88 wrote:...had no right to throw the punch simply because the security guard touched his camera.

Securitard didn't "simply touch his camera." He tried to take it away from him, then he grabbed him by the arm, then only then did he receive his richly deserved ass kicking. Felonious assault is a complete non-starter anyway. He did not use a weapon and he did not cause serious physical harm.

You may resume your bootlicking.

Some people cannot fathom defending ones self from battery.

Jay in Phoenix wrote:You sure you want to go there Tiny Lawyer? Think about this real hard.

Then ask yourself, why is this even being brought up?

You know why, just be honest.

Proof is just a mouse click away.

Why is my body such an obsession for you? Is it even possible for you to post to me without thinking about my body?

So white flag then? Figures.

You did it. Wow. I'm shocked.

What's your opinion about the topic of the thread. Oh that's right you would rather talk about me.

KCPedotranny couldn't even make one post with out thinking about my body. That's creepy.

Jay in Phoenix wrote:You are aware, as an attorney, stalking is a crime.

You're talking to a guy who bangs hookers and posts the evidence. Stupid and desperate must be a rough way to go through life.

And you rape little kids. I think I'll stick to hookers.

I figured out Tiny's pedo obsession. He's about the same size as your average 12-year-old. When he calls you a pedo, he's playing out a fantasy.

Moving Sale wrote:And you rape little kids. I think I'll stick to hookers.

So you, a licensed attorney from the state of California, admit to paying prostitutes in exchange for sexual intercourse?

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:...admit to paying prostitutes...

Yes, but only with small change.

:|

...because he's a dwarf.

...a teeny, tiny, midget, dwarf lawyer.

He said from the anonymity of his hovel. Nice series of posts Mr. Yellow.

What is your view of the camera incident? Or are you too obsessed with me to comment on it?

No, actually I called you a pedotranny because, well you fuck kids and carry a purse.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:

Moving Sale wrote:And you rape little kids. I think I'll stick to hookers.

So you, a licensed attorney from the state of California, admit to paying prostitutes in exchange for sexual intercourse?

Paying them? Who pays them? Are you on crack pedo?

Goober McTuber wrote:I figured out Tiny's pedo obsession. He's about the same size as your average 12-year-old. When he calls you a pedo, he's playing out a fantasy.

Nice IKYABWAI Pedo.

Moving Sale wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote:I figured out Tiny's pedo obsession. He's about the same size as your average 12-year-old. When he calls you a pedo, he's playing out a fantasy.

Nice IKYABWAI Pedo.

Nice little white flag.

Moving Sale wrote:And you rape little kids. I think I'll stick to hookers.

Moving Sale wrote:Paying them? Who pays them? Are you on crack pedo?

Yeah, I'm sure they sleep with you for your looks and winning personality.

You must be loaded with STDs. Gross.

Of course he doesn't pay the prostitutes....

He represents them pro boner...

88 wrote:Security guards were summoned to remove the man from the meeting. If the security guards had done that improperly, the man removed from the meeting could file a lawsuit and get those involved in improperly removing him from the meeting sanctioned for their conduct.

As best I could tell from the video, the two guys who approached the man neither identified themselves or asked him to leave.

The one guy just walked up and started trying to take his equipment, and then put a hand on him in that effort.

If I am the camera dude, at that point I have every expectation that physical force is about to be used on me (by men who did not identify themselves) in order to take my property.

As a human being, my common sense tells me that I have a God-given right to resist at that point.

If not, when do I have the right to resist these unidentified men?

When they've got me pinned on the ground and are doing who knows what to me?


The actions of the security guard is what started the scuffle, and then to make matters exponentially worse, he melted when his ass was rightfully being kicked -- to the point of firing his gun.
I wouldn't doubt that he pissed his pants, too, but we didn't see that on the video.




#Loser

If this goes to court, it will go badly for the city.

Dude may have been an annoying asshat, but, he went out of his way to remain extremely calm, until rentagoon grabbed his shit after making ZERO attempt to simply ask him to leave. This was a textbook example of how not to do it. That imbecile should never hold a security position higher than unarmed mall rentacop again.

Had the goon first asked him politely to leave before assaulting him, he might have a case.

Pulling a gun and firing it was just the cherry on top.

You two are idiots. Government is always right. 88 said so.

88 wrote: It also probably won't help that Mr. Skidmore predicted a violent scuffle with a security guard in an online posting before it occurred:

http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/sto ... /30029789/

The entire point of the meeting in the first place was to discuss heavy-handed security practices, you fucking idiot.

88 wrote:The attack perpetrated on the security guard by the moron now being prosecuted in Mansfield, Ohio was not necessary, nor was that response provoked by the security guard.

I think there is really something wrong with you.


Questions for you to answer:

1. Did you hear either security guard identify himself?

2. Did you hear either of them ask for Skidmore to leave, or ask for him to give up his equipment?

3. Did the security guard grab this man's property, in effort to take it from him?

4. Who was the first person to lay a hand on another person?

88 wrote:If he did not like the security guard touching his camera, he could have voiced his displeasure.

See, this is the difference between tyrants like yourself and freedom loving individuals like poptart, mvscal and myself: YOU are a classist fuck who wants the onus on pipsqueak here while the rest of us freedom loving individuals want the onus on the GOVERNMENT to defend their bad behavior. It is as simple as that. You come from a position of the government is always right (as you clearly described, despite your introduction), I and other freedom loving individuals believe that the government is NOT always right and should not start bargaining from such a position.

I really wish you could see the forest from the trees, but alas I am not in the least surprised you cannot.

Skidmore had reason to believe that the two men were security guards, yet they did not take the very basic step to cover their own ass by SAYING it directly to him.
They fugged that up, 88.

88 wrote:How should he have removed the moron from the premises without touching him?

How about... say something to him?
Ask him to leave.

The security guard clearly provoked the confrontation by grabbing for Skidmore's equipment and laying a hand on him.


Skidmore touched the woman previously, yes, but he was making no effort to take anything from her, violate her, or threaten her.
She would have had no reason at all to defend her body or her property at that point.


I believe Skidmore is a spaz and most likely was looking for a confrontation.
That said, it does not absolve the security guards, because they CLEARLY mishandled the situation from start to finish.

If they had simply done things the right way, which would have been easy to do, Skidmore would have been up shit creek if he spazzed out on them.
As it is, the wrong-doing was on the part of the security goons.

The camera is around his neck this is not defense of property.

The woman had her badge turned over right? He went to see her name, its on her that he had to touch her to find it out. (Unless it isn't and that is a very sticky question that comes down to a lot of local rules and regs that I don't know)

88 wrote:No. They did not do a good job handling the situation. But their lack of perfection does not justify the moron's moronic behavior.

They did an absolute SHIT job. He went straight into gestapo mode and asshole wasn't having any of it.

There's your cliff notes version.

Accurate.

88,

Earlier in this thread you made the analogy of trying this sort of shit with the POTUS.

Apples and handgrenades, dude.

There is a very stringent, over the top, level of security when it comes to the POTUS for good reason. We have a long distinguished history of out POTI being shot and killed. There has such security. I am not familiar with this crappy little burg's history of it's public officials being whacked, but, I suspect it hasn't been much of an issue.

There may or may not be a history of it, but, there is now. I understand that this dude was an annoying asshole and he prolly did have an asskicking coming to him. But, rentagoon still should have followed normal courtesy and policing 101. If the option exists, you ask a perp to come along quietly before breaking out a can of whoop-ass. He didn't. He boviously thought this dude was an easy mark and the next thing he knew he was on the wrong end of the asswhoopin.

What is the latest on this BTW? I really hope that stupid bitch that called in the goons gets shitcanned too. Her 2nd grader "you touched her" antics were bullshit.

But it wasn't avoided. The only thing that was avoided was when you avoided using any brain cells in this thread and doubled and tripled down on stupid. Unless you real are a nazi.

Looks like the article you sited agrees with most here that think the rentagoon was an iodot. It says the moron was...well, a moron as well. I do not dispute that, but, the number 1 fukking moron here was barney fife. dude should never be allowed to carry a sharp pencil, never mind a firearm.

88 wrote:

88 wrote:I suspect the security guard will lose his ability to practice in that line of work and to carry a firearm, which also seems appropriate.

What is it that makes you people incapable of reading or comprehending my posts?

That's rich coming for you.

Uhh, spray, I believe a good stomping was what rentagoon had in mind. Trouble is, he found himself on the wrong end of that stomping and decided pulling his weapon was a good idea.

Asshole was undoubtedly looking to stir some shit, but he never did anything to warrant dipshit coming in and grabbing him without first asking him to leave. In fact, even asking him to leave would have been a bit much as he had done nothing more than video tape some bitch's name tag for a moment. Was there incidental touching? Yes, so fukking what. He immediately went back to his seat afterward.

This was simply a case of some nazi bitch being annoyed and wanting to do what nazis do when they are annoyed.