Left Seater wrote:
Maybe you and the Dems should put up an electable candidate, instead of the entitled turd you rolled out last time.
Her should have adopted a platform of white grievance and white supremacy. That would have done the trick.
Worked for Trump!
More lies. So many of the voters who supported Obama suddenly became racist is what you are trying to sell us?
Race had zero to do with it. If it had Obama wouldn’t have been elected. But by all means keep showing us your short bus intellect.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:32 pm
by ML@Coyote
Screw_Michigan wrote:
Left Seater wrote:
Maybe you and the Dems should put up an electable candidate, instead of the entitled turd you rolled out last time.
Her should have adopted a platform of white grievance and white supremacy. That would have done the trick.
Worked for Trump!
FYI: The unemployment rate for blacks fell to 5.9 percent in May, hitting the lowest level since the government started to record that data in 1972.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:09 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Derron wrote:
Left Seater wrote: How does she get up every morning?
Probably nothing that a couple of vodka collins and some hits of Percocet won't fix real quick.
It's more likely the lightning bolt that hits her when Igor cranks that wheel that raises her gurney through the hole in the lab's ceiling.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:16 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Screw_Michigan wrote:
Left Seater wrote:
Maybe you and the Dems should put up an electable candidate, instead of the entitled turd you rolled out last time.
Her should have adopted a platform of white grievance and white supremacy. That would have done the trick.
Worked for Trump!
Maybe not referring to Blue Collar America as "the deplorables" would have been a better strategy.
The party that's ostensibly fighting the Class War Lite...shitting on Joe and Jane Lunchbox from East Undershirt, New Jersey...what a cunning manoeuvre...
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:46 pm
by BSmack
Hillary would rather have been right than President.
“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”
Funny thing was watching the Trumpanzees wear that label like a crown.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:52 pm
by Derron
Screw_Michigan wrote:
He is a bonafide, textbook definition of a moron.
moron
[mawr-on, mohr-]
noun
Informal. a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment:
I wonder why they elected that narrow-minded moron to Congress.
Psychology. (no longer in technical use; now considered offensive) a person of borderline intelligence in a former and discarded classification of mental retardation, having an intelligence quotient of 50 to 69.
I don't know about the POTUS meeting those parameters, but you knock them right out of the fucking park.
Especially that clinical version.
Congratulations bitch.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:53 pm
by Softball Bat
Jsc810 wrote:The people who know him best, the top staff in the White House, are saying Trump is not fit or capable of being the POTUS. Hiding documents from him, in the interests of national security? What?? You apologists really think this is ok?
If you have an ounce of intellectual integrity, you would admit that if all of this had happened under Obama, if he had been an unindicted co-conspirator to a felony, then you would be calling for impeachment.
And so you should be calling for one now.
Right you are.
Most of the R's on this board have shown that they lack basic integrity and common sense.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:01 am
by ML@Coyote
The Voices in Screwy’s Dome
“Listen to me Screwy. Don’t let them hoodwink you. It wasn’t my fault. Everyone knows I should’ve won. I did everything I could. Even Bill put his philandering on hold and pitched in, and everybody loves Bill, don’t they? Everyone knows when he said he didn’t have sexual relations with that woman, he was talking about me. No, I didn’t let you down. Honest I didn’t. You know I was robbed. And I know I was robbed. We all know it was that Russian thing, right? It had to be that Russian thing.”
“The white devil is here, Screwy. He’s in the Oval Office. You know it, and I know it. Him and his Goddamn sexy white daughter. Have you seen that girl? All that blonde hair and those sexy legs. That killer, intelligent face. That bewitching smile. Jeez. No, no, they are the white devils, Screwy. And you know what you must do. You have to spread the word to everyone on the board. You must tell them that black unemployment isn’t really down. It’s fake news, Screwy. It’s all fake news.”
“He must be stopped, Screwy. We’re depending on you to carry the torch. Trump and his ilk are destroying our once great cause. It wasn’t that long ago that we were all starving comrades reading quotes from the Little Red Book. Now we’re all wearing face masks and eating Big Macs and working our fingers to the bone in factories just so we can fill the capitalist shelves of every fucking Walmart north of Honduras This is all thanks to Trump and his ilk, Screwy. The ilk must be stopped!”
“If there’s one thing I can’t…burp…stand, it’s some smartass Republican AKA Donald Trump who…burp…tries to one up me in the fatso department. You must…burp,,,stop him, Screwy. Next thing you know he’ll be in my kitchen eating all my…burp…potato chips and French onion dip. Have you tried this French onion dip, Screwy? Jesus, I could…burp…eat this shit until the cows come home. And then I’d eat the cows, ha, ha. Seriously, Screwy, come over some night…burp…and we’ll share some grub.”
“Listen, Screwy, giving the orange man a little guff is one thing, but getting him out of office? No way! This guy is the best thing that ever happened to me. I love this guy more than my own daughter (which I know isn’t saying much). What the hell am I going to do if your succeed in getting Trump removed from office? What am I going to do? Look for another TV game show gig? I’m telling you, man, Trump has got to stay. You know he’s a moron, and I know he’s a moron, but the guy is a fucking goldmine. I’ve got this role down pat.”
“Oh, sweetie. Dear little Screwy. How I miss you. Ever since Trump got elected you’ve been ignoring me. Here I sit on your bathroom counter with nothing to do and no one to open my pages. Don’t you remember all those nice things you used to say to me? Don’t you remember all the promises you made? Now it’s just Trump, Trump, Trump. There, now that’s a good boy. Have a seat. Open me up. You know who you remind me of? A young Warren Beatty. Yes, yes, that’s right. Be gentle with me, now. A little to the left.
Ahhh, now you’ve got it…
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:00 am
by Screw_Michigan
ML gets a rack for old school creativity.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:45 am
by Softball Bat
Donald's response to the anonymous piece in the NY Times.
TREASON?
- Don
No.
MELT?
Yes.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:20 am
by Killian
BSmack wrote:Hillary would rather have been right than President.
Bull-fucking-shit. She wanted the presidency more than she wanted Huma to eat her dusty box.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:33 am
by Softball Bat
Does the so-called “Senior Administration Official” really exist, or is it just the Failing New York Times with another phony source? If the GUTLESS anonymous person does indeed exist, the Times must, for National Security purposes, turn him/her over to government at once!
- Donald Melt
Turn him over to the government at once!
bwaaaa hahahaha!
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:05 am
by Screw_Michigan
Softball Bat wrote:Turn him over to the government at once!
The authoritarian in chief!
Nothing to see here. Her! Killary! Obummer! Mmfmfh!
Sincerely,
0.88, Tardspay, Duhron, Joe Blow, etc
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:07 pm
by ML@Coyote
Killian wrote:
BSmack wrote:Hillary would rather have been right than President.
Bull-fucking-shit. She wanted the presidency more than she wanted Huma to eat her dusty box.
Losing was a huge disappointment to her. In one breath her followers will tell you she lost because she took a high road, and in another they''ll tell you she lowered herself to Trumps level and wasn't good at fighting dirty. In either case she was too principled to win. This argument helps them justify her ineptitude. It also encourages them to believe that Trump has no right to be president.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:52 pm
by Softball Bat
Very strange times we are living in.
Regardless of what you think of this, it is worth reading and thinking about.
I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration
I work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.
President Trump is facing a test to his presidency unlike any faced by a modern American leader.
It’s not just that the special counsel looms large. Or that the country is bitterly divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership. Or even that his party might well lose the House to an opposition hellbent on his downfall.
The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.
I would know. I am one of them.
To be clear, ours is not the popular “resistance” of the left. We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous.
But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic.
That is why many Trump appointees have vowed to do what we can to preserve our democratic institutions while thwarting Mr. Trump’s more misguided impulses until he is out of office.
The root of the problem is the president’s amorality. Anyone who works with him knows he is not moored to any discernible first principles that guide his decision making.
Although he was elected as a Republican, the president shows little affinity for ideals long espoused by conservatives: free minds, free markets and free people. At best, he has invoked these ideals in scripted settings. At worst, he has attacked them outright.
In addition to his mass-marketing of the notion that the press is the “enemy of the people,” President Trump’s impulses are generally anti-trade and anti-democratic.
Don’t get me wrong. There are bright spots that the near-ceaseless negative coverage of the administration fails to capture: effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military and more.
But these successes have come despite — not because of — the president’s leadership style, which is impetuous, adversarial, petty and ineffective.
From the White House to executive branch departments and agencies, senior officials will privately admit their daily disbelief at the commander in chief’s comments and actions. Most are working to insulate their operations from his whims.
Meetings with him veer off topic and off the rails, he engages in repetitive rants, and his impulsiveness results in half-baked, ill-informed and occasionally reckless decisions that have to be walked back.
“There is literally no telling whether he might change his mind from one minute to the next,” a top official complained to me recently, exasperated by an Oval Office meeting at which the president flip-flopped on a major policy decision he’d made only a week earlier.
The erratic behavior would be more concerning if it weren’t for unsung heroes in and around the White House. Some of his aides have been cast as villains by the media. But in private, they have gone to great lengths to keep bad decisions contained to the West Wing, though they are clearly not always successful.
It may be cold comfort in this chaotic era, but Americans should know that there are adults in the room. We fully recognize what is happening. And we are trying to do what’s right even when Donald Trump won’t.
The result is a two-track presidency.
Take foreign policy: In public and in private, President Trump shows a preference for autocrats and dictators, such as President Vladimir Putin of Russia and North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, and displays little genuine appreciation for the ties that bind us to allied, like-minded nations.
Astute observers have noted, though, that the rest of the administration is operating on another track, one where countries like Russia are called out for meddling and punished accordingly, and where allies around the world are engaged as peers rather than ridiculed as rivals.
On Russia, for instance, the president was reluctant to expel so many of Mr. Putin’s spies as punishment for the poisoning of a former Russian spy in Britain. He complained for weeks about senior staff members letting him get boxed into further confrontation with Russia, and he expressed frustration that the United States continued to impose sanctions on the country for its malign behavior. But his national security team knew better — such actions had to be taken, to hold Moscow accountable.
This isn’t the work of the so-called deep state. It’s the work of the steady state.
Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over.
The bigger concern is not what Mr. Trump has done to the presidency but rather what we as a nation have allowed him to do to us. We have sunk low with him and allowed our discourse to be stripped of civility.
Senator John McCain put it best in his farewell letter. All Americans should heed his words and break free of the tribalism trap, with the high aim of uniting through our shared values and love of this great nation.
We may no longer have Senator McCain. But we will always have his example — a lodestar for restoring honor to public life and our national dialogue. Mr. Trump may fear such honorable men, but we should revere them.
There is a quiet resistance within the administration of people choosing to put country first. But the real difference will be made by everyday citizens rising above politics, reaching across the aisle and resolving to shed the labels in favor of a single one: Americans.
The writer is a senior official in the Trump administration.
Shortly after The New York Times published an anonymous piece from a senior Trump administration official that takes apart the President and suggests he is not in charge of his own White House, MSNBC's Chris Hayes tweeted this: "I can't imagine anything more finely engineered to drive the president absolutely mad than that op-ed."
Truer words have never been spoken.
In fact, in reading the op-ed, the first thing that struck me was how well the writer must know Trump -- since he/she includes so many known triggers of the President's rage. If you wanted to write a piece with the sole goal of provoking -- and trolling -- Trump, it would read a lot like "I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration."
Consider all of the Trump alarm bells the piece sets off:
1. It's in The New York Times
Remember that the Times is Trump's hometown paper. He love-hates it far more than any other media outlet in the world. If you want to ensure you get Trump's attention, you put something in The New York Times. He'll see it. And probably quickly.
2. It's anonymous
Yes, this is likely more the result of the "senior administration official" keeping his/her job and avoiding the crush that would land on him/her if the op-ed had a byline. But not putting a name to the words has the side effect of poking one of Trump's bugbears. He has railed against anonymous sourcing for years.
He calls those who offer up anonymous quotes "cowards" and has even suggested that media organizations make up anonymous quotes. (Narrator voice: They don't). On cue, Trump tweeted this on Wednesday night: "Does the so-called 'Senior Administration Official' really exist, or is it just the Failing New York Times with another phony source? If the GUTLESS anonymous person does indeed exist, the Times must, for National Security purposes, turn him/her over to government at once!"
3. It portrays him as weak
Donald Trump views himself as an apex predator in the jungle of life. He's at the top of the food chain -- always has been, always will be. This op-ed paints a picture of Trump as feckless, clueless and hapless. "Meetings with him veer off topic and off the rails, he engages in repetitive rants, and his impulsiveness results in half-baked, ill-informed and occasionally reckless decisions that have to be walked back," reads the op-ed.
4. It's written by someone who works for him
Trump is a big -- BIG -- believer in the chain of command. He's on the top. Everyone who works for him does what he says. Or they get fired. It's one of the reasons Trump has struggled so badly to adjust to the presidency. He doesn't seem to understand, for instance, that while the Justice Department is part of the federal government, the attorney general shouldn't be taking his daily marching orders from the President. That someone who not only works for him but is in a high-ranking position within his administration would have the gall to write something like the Times op-ed will make Trump bananas.
5. It plays to his paranoia
The roots of Trump's political life are in conspiracy theories; he was a champion of the debunked idea that then-President Barack Obama was not born in the United States. Trump has dabbled in conspiracy theories ever since -- from the idea that Ted Cruz's father was involved in the assassination of John F. Kennedy to the idea that Hillary Clinton was hiding some sort of terminal illness during the 2016 campaign. He is never more paranoid than in his own life, where he is utterly convinced that people are always plotting against him. "Deep state" anyone? An anonymous op-ed by a senior administration official will only further his belief that everyone really is out to get him!
It doesn't take much imagination to conjure an image of Trump growing increasingly red-faced and agitated reading this op-ed (much like Meltspray reading T1B). And then lashing out on Twitter -- and in public statements. (You don't have to imagine those last two, since Trump has done both in the last 24 hours.)
This op-ed was designed for exactly that purpose. Mission accomplished.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:34 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Softball Bat wrote:
We may no longer have Senator McCain. But we will always have his example — a lodestar for restoring honor to public life and our national dialogue.
I laughed.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:36 pm
by Derron
Gobbles and Soft Dick having cut and paste competitions. Epic. Not worth reading either one.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:54 pm
by Softball Bat
Derron wrote:Not worth reading either one.
Reading and learning are not your thing,
Grunting, hooting, and sucking dick are.
Do what you do best, sunshine!
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:29 am
by Rooster
I'm not buying that that Op-Ed piece was written by anybody in the Trump administration. My guess is that it's some dweeb in the mail room at the NYT who penned it and got the reaction he wanted. You can tell that it's a hit job because all of these books and articles are coming out at the same time-- which is play #2 in the Dem playbook. Make it seem like there is a deluge of people who agree with their side, particularly if those people are from the Republiucan party. We saw this just last week at the McCain funeral. Suddenly the guy the Left excoriated back in 2012 was actually a wonderful reasonable person, someone the Republican party could use a whole lot more of, but alas, the Maverick was the last of is breed. Etc, etc.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:45 am
by Softball Bat
Rooster wrote:I'm not buying that that Op-Ed piece was written by anybody in the Trump administration. My guess is that it's some dweeb in the mail room at the NYT who penned it and got the reaction he wanted.
That's the problem the Times has with choosing to publish this anonymous piece.
Why should we believe it isn't a work of fiction?
Unless and until the author comes forward, a take such as yours can not be disregarded -- and the Times does not look particularly credible.
Also, what does "senior official" mean, really?
The Times put themselves out there by publishing this.
I guess we'll see what develops.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:25 am
by Goober McTuber
I think it was Pence.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:05 am
by Softball Bat
Why?
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:23 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
50% of T1B wrote:Your political party sucks!
the other 50% wrote:No, YOUR political party sucks!!
Good stuff, guys. Keep up the enthralling conversation.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:30 am
by Softball Bat
Your math is a little off there, champ.
A few of us here recognize that both parties suck.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:24 am
by Derron
Softball Bat wrote:
Derron wrote:Not worth reading either one.
Reading and learning are not your thing,
Grunting, hooting, and sucking dick are.
Do what you do best, sunshine!
Walk off the edge of your flat earth and die in space you fucking idiot. Leave your fag fantasy's in the closet.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:43 am
by Goober McTuber
Softball Bat wrote:Why?
Because he's a patriot self-serving little bitch.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:05 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Softball Bat wrote:Your math is a little off there, champ.
A few of us here recognize that both parties suck.
First of all, don't call me champ, chief.
Secondly, if you pay attention, you'll notice that "both parties suck" guy almost always spends his time exclusively defending one party over the other. It's a fairly transparent way of hedging, so one can bash the party/president they didn't vote for, while absolving themselves from any responsibility when their preferred leader says or does something stupid.
Tart, you're a bit of an exception to the rule as your takes are governed by an objective world view that goes far beyond the "pick a side" cable news consciousness. A guy like Spray is exactly who I'm talking about.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:23 am
by Softball Bat
Goober McTuber wrote:
Softball Bat wrote:Why?
Because he's a patriot self-serving little bitch.
Some think Pence wrote it because the author used the word lodestar -- and Pence has used that word in the past.
It is not a word that is all that common.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:25 pm
by ML@Coyote
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:you'll notice that "both parties suck" guy almost always spends his time exclusively defending one party over the other. It's a fairly transparent way of hedging, so one can bash the party/president they didn't vote for, while absolving themselves from any responsibility when their preferred leader says or does something stupid.
It is possible also that one can be conservative in general without attaching himself to the GOP. It is also possible for one to be liberal in general without attaching himself to the Democratic Party. It is also possible for one to have both conservative and liberal opinions without attaching himself to either party. This isn't "hedging." This is just a case of a person having his own opinions.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:14 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Papa Willie wrote:
2. Conservatives are generally of much better ilk.
Oh yeah? Do tell.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:26 am
by ML@Coyote
Papa Willie wrote:
1. Liberals are fucking whiny-assed pussies.
It only seems that way because they're disagreeing with you. You seem the same way to them, believe it or not.
Papa Willie wrote:
2. Conservatives are generally of much better ilk.
I know a lot of real assholes who are conservative.
Papa Willie wrote:
3. Both the Democrats and Republicans have gotten us where we’re at.
You're right, here.
Papa Willie wrote:
4. Though I think Trump has actually done some good things, he needs to shut the fuck up a lot more.
Right here, too. It used to be entertaining, but now it's kind of pathetic.
Papa Willie wrote:
5. You’ve got to understand that liberals are far more fun to fuck with, because their pussies bleed and they cry a lot easier. Does that make sense?
They tend to be more empathetic and understanding. And sometimes a little more gullible. But don't mistake this for weakness. They can have sharp claws.
You should be grateful there are liberals around. They seem to give you purpose.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:22 am
by Rooster
The empathy and understanding of liberals is really only dispensed when it is directed towards their own. There is a serious dearth of those wonderful values when confronted with conservatism, so in that regard they are empty virtues seeing as it is quite easy to be generous towards those with whom you agree.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:37 am
by ML@Coyote
Rooster wrote:The empathy and understanding of liberals is really only dispensed when it is directed towards their own. There is a serious dearth of those wonderful values when confronted with conservatism, so in that regard they are empty virtues seeing as it is quite easy to be generous towards those with whom you agree.
I'll rephrase my statement to read, "They tend to be more empathetic and understanding toward people who they perceive as victims or as less fortunate than others."
I think conservatives tend to feel victims and the less fortunate should get tough and stand on their own two feet.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:41 am
by Softball Bat
This is quite an interesting phone call.
Give it a listen -- all the way through.
Woodward tried (through 7 or 8 people close to Donald) to get an interview with the president.
Nobody told Donald... except Lindsay Graham, just in a passing way.
Why do you think nobody told Don, so that he could at least get his own word on record for the book?
What is your theory on this?
Btw, I LOLed at Donald's remarks in about the last minute of the call.
Re: Bob Woodward's book on Dipshit in Chief
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:13 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Softball Bat wrote:This is quite an interesting phone call.
Give it a listen -- all the way through.
It is surreal and amazing how Don seamlessly moves between one lie to the other and contradicts himself breath by breath.
"Lindsey didn't tell me, oh yeah, he did, but he didn't tell me...."
