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Innocent Bystander wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:12 pm
I don't think Biden drafted that pardon, just like I don't think Biden willingly stepped down from the nomination. Getting old is a very scary thing. People do things in your name without your consent to enrich themselves.

He certainly ordered it. Dementia is tricky. In certain aspects, they are as sharp as they ever were. I have no doubt that when it comes to grift and protecting the family criminal enterprise, Pedo Joe is a sharp as a tack.

I have friends who would defend Biden if they saw a signed confession to all his crimes.

Sudden Sam wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:05 pm I have friends who would defend Biden if they saw a signed confession to all his crimes.

Yup. He would be venerated to founding father status. Not only was he innocent when he said he was innocent, he was honorable when he said he was guilty. In fact, nothing could make the Left love him more than for him to admit fault and pray for their forgiveness.

Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 1:54 pm You ignore this:

Straight outta the DNC playbook. But, but, but Trump.

Left Seater wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:37 pm

Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 1:54 pm You ignore this:

Straight outta the DNC playbook. But, but, but Trump.

That's all he's got. He's deep in the Führerbunker.

Wo ist Smith? ...aber Trump!!

All this talk about pardons reminded me of a pardon that happened almost exactly 50 years ago.

https://jambands.com/features/2011/07/2 ... ott-heron/

We Beg Your Pardon (Pardon Our Analysis)

...

What were the causes for this pardon?
Well, now … they had “phlebitis”
Rats bite us, no pardon in the ghetto
They had “national security”
But do you feel secure with the man who tried to steal America
Back on the streets again?

Any of you all ever heard of Attica?
William Calley?
Goldwater?

I know a few have.

This is a pretty interesting flashback.

WHAT?!

Wait a minute. Our president made it clear he wouldn’t pardon Hunter.

He pardoned his son?! You’ve got to be kidding. No way.

This president had been so honest…and transparent…and up front.

This can’t be true.

Next thing you know, he’ll accept laundered American tax dollars from Ukraine. Geez, he’s blowing his administration’s reputation for honesty.

So presidents aren't allowed to change their mind?

Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 4:39 pm So presidents aren't allowed to change their mind?

Not enough rolleyes emojis on the internet for that lame ass post.

To be honest, I don't GARA about what happens with Hunter. He's a low life sleazeball who, as far as I know, hasn't held a legitimate job in his entire life.

That being said, it seems like there's a whole lot of hypocrisy on display here, considering the fact that the low life sleazeball you all elected President is there mostly to pardon himself.

Mikey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 4:52 pm To be honest, I don't GARA about what happens with Hunter. He's a low life sleazeball who, as far as I know, hasn't held a legitimate job in his entire life.

That being said, it seems like there's a whole lot of hypocrisy on display here, considering the fact that the low life sleazeball you all elected President is there mostly to pardon himself.

We'll see how many other criminals of the dem cabal get pardoned prior to Jan 20.

Mikey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 4:52 pm To be honest, I don't GARA about what happens with Hunter. He's a low life sleazeball who, as far as I know, hasn't held a legitimate job in his entire life.

Fair enough. I wouldn't argue with that.

It does, however, beg the question of how his millions were obtained seeing as how he never had a legitimate job and all. Are you OK with influence peddling, extortion and bribery by highly placed public officials? Is that something that might warrant some sort of investigation, in your opinion? I do believe that nobody is above the law, correct?

They always leak to the "Press" what they are going to do. Pardons are going to be granted to the entire cabal of the "Save our Democracy" fraudsters:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-white- ... 46549.html

Covering up their obvious malfeasance via pardons will be considered a "win" for a group of dem supporters in here.

mvscal wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 9:45 pm

Mikey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 4:52 pm To be honest, I don't GARA about what happens with Hunter. He's a low life sleazeball who, as far as I know, hasn't held a legitimate job in his entire life.

Fair enough. I wouldn't argue with that.

It does, however, beg the question of how his millions were obtained seeing as how he never had a legitimate job and all. Are you OK with influence peddling, extortion and bribery by highly placed public officials? Is that something that might warrant some sort of investigation, in your opinion? I do believe that nobody is above the law, correct?

I see that you didn't respond to the second part of my post, conveniently leaving it out of your quote, and pretty much confirming my thesis.

So I'll defer any further comment until I get your completed response.

Prediction: Joe Biden will be remembered as the most corrupt president in US history.

Shouldn’t take too long to expose his criminality.

Mikey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 4:52 pm That being said, it seems like there's a whole lot of hypocrisy on display here, considering the fact that the low life sleazeball you all elected President is there mostly to pardon himself.

Pardon himself for what crimes, exactly? Jack Smith (improperly installed without the advice and consent of the Senate) has Jack Shit, as evidenced by the unconstitutional brief he submitted with the consent of the abomination known as Judge Chutkan. Trump ain’t worried about your sleaze balls. There is a giant flushing on the nigh, and it is the turds that corrupted our system of government that are worried and want Bidet to save them from justice.

So pardons are the moral high ground the Dems told us they occupied?

Hmmmm?

Mikey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2024 4:30 pm

mvscal wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 9:45 pm

Mikey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 4:52 pm To be honest, I don't GARA about what happens with Hunter. He's a low life sleazeball who, as far as I know, hasn't held a legitimate job in his entire life.

Fair enough. I wouldn't argue with that.

It does, however, beg the question of how his millions were obtained seeing as how he never had a legitimate job and all. Are you OK with influence peddling, extortion and bribery by highly placed public officials? Is that something that might warrant some sort of investigation, in your opinion? I do believe that nobody is above the law, correct?

I see that you didn't respond to the second part of my post, conveniently leaving it out of your quote, and pretty much confirming my thesis.

So I'll defer any further comment until I get your completed response.

But Trump isn't an argument. It's a deflection.

Sudden Sam wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2024 4:35 pm Prediction: Joe Biden will be remembered as the most corrupt president in US history.

This is laughable at best!

We all know that Joe was just like Buster Douglas; he was the only one who could take down Grover Trump.

Had the D party not hit the eject button, Joe would have wiped the floor (again) with Grover and likely would have received over 91 million votes this time.

Did you see Joe smoke Grover in the debate?? “You’re the sucker, you’re the loser!” Blump had no comeback for that!

This would have all but sealed Joe’s spot next to Jefferson and Carter atop Mt Rushmore. Be that as it may, the Ds overanalyzed it and brought in Kamala far too early in her career (just wait, she too will be a future star and two termer, once she polishes up her teleprompter speeches).

Joe is just a caring and loving father and anyone in his position would do the same thing, even in the face of a bad cold or late evening forgetfulness. This is all small potatoes compared to what we’ll see when the Nazi Socialists of the Fourth Reich invade our capitol in January (again!). Enjoy your sieg heils, Elon and Vivek!

88BuckeyeGrad wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2024 1:54 pm They always leak to the "Press" what they are going to do. Pardons are going to be granted to the entire cabal of the "Save our Democracy" fraudsters:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-white- ... 46549.html

Another new term courtesy of the criminal cabal....


"Pre-emptive Pardons."

Brought to you by the nothing to hide group.


”Pre-emptive” pardons are unconstitutional. There was only one in history before Biden: Richard Nixon. It was controversial and legal scholars doubted it could stand if challenged. It never was.

Pardons are for prosecutions that resulted in a guilty verdict. There are 2 constitutional issues that point to why a pre-emptive pardon cannot withstand constitutional muster:

1. A person is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. But only a guilty party can be pardoned.

2. Pardons are inherently tied to the legal principle of double jeopardy. Pardons work because a person cannot be tried again for the same crime after a verdict has been reached.

Since there is no verdict prior to a pre-emptive pardon, there is also no principal of double jeopardy protecting the pardoned party from being tried for the crime in question.

For these reasons above, the Trump administration MUST proceed with prosecuting any crimes pre-emptively pardoned by Joe Biden on his way out, and challenge the legitimacy of such pardons on the grounds laid out in this post.

The depths of the criminality in the Biden family make JFK’s dad and George HW’s dad look like petty thieves.

Interesting read, Seer. But if what you assert is true (and it might be - it makes sense), then what is the true scope of the pardon granted by Biden to Hunter? Does it only extend to the two convictions thus far or does it extend to all the other criminal shit he did since 2014? And how does that logic square with Ford's pardon of Nixon? I think a president's power to grant pardons probably exceeds the limitations you have asserted. Would make a good research project.

88BuckeyeGrad wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 7:13 pm Would make a good research project.

It would...some creative uncharted legal terrain...but not a surprise considering the depth and scope of the alleged and hopefully soon to be investigated corruption and illegalities (and not some whimsical Lawfare or make believe committees)....

Meat Head wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 10:39 pm

His beady, little rodent eyes are dialed in on a small child to grope. He will probably evacuate his bowels in order to make himself relatively more agile in pursuit.

The Seer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 9:23 pm

88BuckeyeGrad wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 7:13 pm Would make a good research project.

It would...some creative uncharted legal terrain...but not a surprise considering the depth and scope of the alleged and hopefully soon to be investigated corruption and illegalities (and not some whimsical Lawfare or make believe committees)....

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/frequently-asked-questions wrote:Can the President pardon someone before they are indicted, convicted, or sentenced for a federal offense against the United States?

It would be highly unusual, but there have been a few cases where people who had not been charged with a crime were pardoned, including President Gerald Ford's pardon of President Richard Nixon after Watergate, President Jimmy Carter's pardon of Vietnam draft dodgers and President George H.W. Bush's pardon of Caspar Weinberger. President Donald J. Trump pardoned Joseph Arpaio and others after they were charged and convicted, but prior to sentencing.

Pardoning someone before a crime has even been alleged seems a bit risky. Maybe a lot risky. What if the guy is responsible for millions of deaths? What if he defrauded investment accounts and now there are millions of retirees losing their homes and no one knew until after he got a free pass? You want an insurrection? Tell a huge number of people and their families they can't sue to get their lives back. You'll create a level of desperation where taking up arms and dying for a noble cause starts to look like an attractive life goal.

I'm not suggesting any of ^that^ is directly relevant to Hunter Biden but there's a dangerous precedent being set and eventually we could get to a place where frustration with inequity becomes a catalyst for revolution. French style.

The Biden crime syndicate runs deep. Whether the Bide clan is punished or not, i look forward to the day when my Dem buds have to admit that Biden is/was scum of the earth.

mvscal wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 4:47 am

Meat Head wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 10:39 pm

His beady, little rodent eyes are dialed in on a small child to grope. He will probably evacuate his bowels in order to make himself relatively more agile in pursuit.

Somehow, this belongs here



Holy fuk that is a sick pic. Strawman I think you posted it first.

Rack you ya sick fuk