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Sutter gets into the Hall. Whole lotta relivers likely to follow.

Big question:
Cubs hat?
Cards hat?
Braves hat?

If Cards hat, does that mean they have to retire his number?

one... two... three...

Jack Morris ought to be in the Hall.

Agree?

Cardinals hat for Sutter.
Jack belongs in the HOF.

On deck for '07 entry: Cal Ripken, Tony Gwynn, & Mark McGwire.
Ripken and Gwynn will get in, but we'll have to see how the steroids issue
affects McGwire's chances.

poptart wrote:Jack Morris ought to be in the Hall.

Agree?

Absolutely, if for no other reason than, the 10 inning World Series game which he pitched and nobody ran him.

Sutter goes in with a Cards hat.

poptart wrote:Jack Morris ought to be in the Hall.

Agree?

Of course I'm pulling for Morris to get into the Hall. Jim Rice should be in there for sure. If Eddie Murray got in for being a jerk to the media...why is Rice getting the freeze out? Definitely not an exciting year for the HOF.

I hate the voting method that baseball uses, the other 3 sports have a combo of media/players/executives vote for who gets in their respective halls.

You know next year that there is going to be some idiot writers that will not vote for Ripken or Gwynn because "they don't compare to Babe Ruth." :roll:

Shoalzie wrote:Jim Rice should be in there for sure. If Eddie Murray got in for being a jerk to the media...why is Rice getting the freeze out? Definitely not an exciting year for the HOF.

Eddie Murray had 500 HR and 3000 hits. Rice doesn't come close to sniffing either. How in the fuck can you compare the two?

Rice had 4 HOF years. He was very good for about a 10 year stretch. However, he didn't accumulate the stats necessary for HOF consideration. He was never on a championship team. He sucked in the field and on the bases. He always seemed to hit into a DP in clutch late inning situations. In the end, his last 3 years killed him. He only had 31 HR and 161 RBI during that stretch and called it quits at only age 36 because he didn't take care of himself. He turned into a lardass with no skills because he was too lazy to keep in shape. For real. Dude couldn't get off of the couch and put down the bag of Doritos during the off-season, so his career tanked and he quit. Fuck that lazy, fat fucking bitch. I've never seen someone whose skills diminished so rapidly. How dare you compare him to Murray. If you want to compare him to Tony Perez, that'd be worth arguing over. But Murray? Nigga... please.

Cross Traffic wrote:I hate the voting method that baseball uses, the other 3 sports have a combo of media/players/executives vote for who gets in their respective halls.

That could be a double edge sword because there have been some recent inductees to the NHL Hall of Fame that shouldn't be in there. Clark Gillies coming to mind.

I had to laugh at Cowherd yesterday when he was offering his take that "if you have to construct an argument that I guy should be an HOFer, then he is not an HOFer" implying that it is a "know it when you see it" type of deal.


He then immediately begins to construct an argument why Rice is an HOFer after he attempted to negate the legitimacy of doing so. Dumbass.

UCant Unretires Again wrote:
Rice had 4 HOF years. He was very good for about a 10 year stretch.

Pretty good run, don't ya think?

UCant Unretires Again wrote:
However, he didn't accumulate the stats necessary for HOF consideration. He was never on a championship team.

Why that is even considered just blows my mind.
WTF? Do you recall what management was like during his tenure?

He played LF and hit the shit outta the ball. Played hard.

UCant Unretires Again wrote:
He sucked in the field and on the bases.

He was adequate.
Remember....it's Fenway Park.

UCant Unretires Again wrote:
He always seemed to hit into a DP in clutch late inning situations. In the end, his last 3 years killed him. He only had 31 HR and 161 RBI during that stretch and called it quits at only age 36 because he didn't take care of himself. He turned into a lardass with no skills because he was too lazy to keep in shape. For real. Dude couldn't get off of the couch and put down the bag of Doritos during the off-season, so his career tanked and he quit. Fuck that lazy, fat fucking bitch. I've never seen someone whose skills diminished so rapidly. How dare you compare him to Murray. If you want to compare him to Tony Perez, that'd be worth arguing over. But Murray? Nigga... please.

*Babe Ruth took care of himself like most of the posters on these boards.

He's in the Hall.




* In no way, shape or form does chowd compare Jim Ed Rice to
Goerge Herman Ruth.



It's writers getting back at his surly attitude, which in my opinion, is slightly exaggerated.
(Their big dig, so to speak.)

Rice got fukked!!


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Plus, he & I share birthdays!

I read in the local fishwrap Wednesday that Sutter is a native of Mt. Joy, PA.
Props to a Hall-of-Famer from this neck of the woods.

bof him and his 2nd sacker, Tommy Herr, were from Lancaster.

I think Morris should def be in. He was the most dominant pitcher of the 80s. I think Gossage should have beenn in as well.


Next year:

Gwynn
Ripken
McGwire (never tested positive, so shouldnt be held against him)

Cicero wrote: McGwire (never tested positive, so shouldnt be held against him)

Nigga please. He was as mediocre as they come. He was Dave Kingman with 100 more HR's, thanks to the juice.

Not only was Morris the winningest pitcher of the 80's but he shined in the fall classic with some all-time performances. He deserves to be in Cooperstown and it should have been before Sutter for sure.

McGwire 1626 hits, .263 average, he doesn't belong in the HOF.

Ucant


Do you think Dawson should be in?