maybe that's just a west coast thing i do not understand. We don't have billboard ads like these for our teams. I have not seen them in Texas and I have not seen them here in Big 10 country.
IndyFrisco wrote:maybe that's just a west coast thing i do not understand. We don't have billboard ads like these for our teams. I have not seen them in Texas and I have not seen them here in Big 10 country.
Frisco,
You're pretty much dead on. Most of the schools out here have to market their team to sell tickets. If ASU, for example, wins its first four or five games, more people will start showing up on Saturdays. If not, the place is fucking dead. The bandwagon nature of (most) west coasters is pathetic. Naturally, in places like Austin or Happy Valley, billboards are not necessary.
“My dentist, that’s another beauty, my dentist, you kiddin’ me. It cost me five thousand dollars to have all new teeth put in. Now he tells me I need braces!” —Rodney Dangerfield
Of course, A&M basketball started to sell out this year. When I was in school, I went to all the games and we'd be lucky to have 2000 people at the game. We built Reed Arena, probably the best basketball facility in the XII and we still couldn't get more than 5000 to a game. A little success and A&M has 13,000 filling up Reed now.
Like I said though, I just don't understand it when it comes to football.
A lot of it has to do with a lot of west coast residents not being native to where they live and still holding on to allegiances to the teams they grew up cheering for.
There are 6 million people from New York living in Los Angeles, you wont see 6 million people from a west coast city move to an east coast city. You also dont seem to see people (other than M2) on the west coast passionately follow a school they did not go to even with most colleges out here not even having football teams.
Sounds good...but how does that work? Does it mean you drink it out of wine glasses, twirl it in the glass, and pile your nose into the bell of the glass for a sniff?
King Crimson wrote:anytime you have a smoke tunnel and it's not Judas Priest in the mid 80's....watch out.
“My dentist, that’s another beauty, my dentist, you kiddin’ me. It cost me five thousand dollars to have all new teeth put in. Now he tells me I need braces!” —Rodney Dangerfield
Still though, I love football and even though my team doesn't play near me, I still go to games. I go to a lot of the IU games in Bloomington, usually 4 or 5 of them. And it is a 1.5 hour drive for me and THEY SUCK, but I just love CFB and will watch whoever plays.
I'm also a huge MLB fan. I live 3 hours from St. Louis and 2.5 hours from Cincy but I still make 10-12 games a year and they are both divisional rivals to my team, the Stros. I'd make MANY more if I lived closer.
And of course, I make about 6-7 Indy Colts games too, a 2.5 hour drive, a division rival to my Titans.
I'm just a fan of sprots in general. I don't need to see a billboard to enjoy watching these teams even though I'm not a fan of them.
You also dont seem to see people (other than M2) on the west coast passionately follow a school they did not go to even with most colleges out here not even having football teams.
Wrong...I'm sure those gangster fans that infiltrate the moseleum on Saturday all graduated from $C, along with all the tools with their brand new hats, shirts, jersey's, sweatshirts etc......
All schools have fans who didn't attend.
JayDuck wrote:This year's billboards aren't my favorite. But, we have billboards every year and usually I like them.
And I'll still take this year's effort over other teams' attempts to follow suit.
i saw a couple of those on a CU board and just groaned out loud. really, really dumb.
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IndyFrisco wrote:maybe that's just a west coast thing i do not understand. We don't have billboard ads like these for our teams. I have not seen them in Texas and I have not seen them here in Big 10 country.
In Oklahoma and Texas, you don't have to advertise football. Either you know, and you matter, or you don't know and you're new.
Some of it has to do with football having to compete with both of these, for weekend time, on the West coast.
Now, I could give a shit about the Beach, skiing, or hiking or camping or kayaking or any of that shit, when it's football season, but a lot of people on the West Coast like that stuff, or moved here for that and like to get out on the weekends. And in most places, its less than 2 hours to both the Beach and the Mountains.
JayDuck wrote:Some of it has to do with football having to compete with both of these, for weekend time, on the West coast.
Now, I could give a shit about the Beach, skiing, or hiking or camping or kayaking or any of that shit, when it's football season, but a lot of people on the West Coast like that stuff, or moved here for that and like to get out on the weekends. And in most places, its less than 2 hours to both the Beach and the Mountains.
Good post Jay...
Here's Oklahoma on a day without football
Seriously, there is nothing to do in Oklahoma unless you're a farmer.
JayDuck wrote:Some of it has to do with football having to compete with both of these, for weekend time, on the West coast.
Now, I could give a shit about the Beach, skiing, or hiking or camping or kayaking or any of that shit, when it's football season, but a lot of people on the West Coast like that stuff, or moved here for that and like to get out on the weekends. And in most places, its less than 2 hours to both the Beach and the Mountains.
Good post Jay...
Here's Oklahoma on a day without football
Seriously, there is nothing to do in Oklahoma unless you're a farmer.
i hear this argument/excuse all the time in Colorado. I'd be willing to bet that just as many people in Oklahoma hunt or fish on the weekends as people in the glory states go to the mountains (and, seriously, who goes to the beach in November?). people sit on their ass and watch TV on the weekends EVERYWHERE....even if it's not CFB.
JayDuck wrote:Some of it has to do with football having to compete with both of these, for weekend time, on the West coast.
Now, I could give a shit about the Beach, skiing, or hiking or camping or kayaking or any of that shit, when it's football season, but a lot of people on the West Coast like that stuff, or moved here for that and like to get out on the weekends. And in most places, its less than 2 hours to both the Beach and the Mountains.
Good post Jay...
Here's Oklahoma on a day without football
Seriously, there is nothing to do in Oklahoma unless you're a farmer.
(and, seriously, who goes to the beach in November?). people sit on their ass and watch TV on the weekends EVERYWHERE....even if it's not CFB.
so, what you are saying is you don't watch Cal play?
""On a lonely planet spinning its way toward damnation amid the fear and despair of a broken human race, who is left to fight for all that is good and pure and gets you smashed for under a fiver? Yes, it's the surprising adventures of me, Sir Digby Chicken-Caesar!"
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you should re-read your own endorsement of JayDuck's post.
BTW, as toothless and relentlessly hooked on meth as I am....i still managed to go to a better school than the one you claim to have gone to. somehow.
Oklahoma is not the midwest, as well. so save yer stereotype substitute for thinking and do us all a favor.
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i only introduce this since "academic smack" is part of your lame ass schtick.
Private universities will always do better under the USN&WR rankings. There's no way we can compete in terms of faculty/student ratio with private universities.
Also, the reputation of USN&WR's rankings has been in decline for decades now. Most councilors encourage applicants to disregard their rankings, as they criteria they use seems to change annually, based on the pressure they get from the institutions looking to boost their rank. It's becoming more of a reflection of the politics of some universities than a good yardstick for quality education.
USN&WR's bias toward the private schools and it's weight of "intangibles" over academics also calls into question the validity of their rankings.
It's very likely USC (and Cal, for that matter) is much better than a lot of the schools ranked above it based on what most applicants want to get out of their college experience. Instead, USN&WR pretty much ranks them according to which school administrations and alumni are doing the best job of campaigning for their school.
Treat USN&WR for what it is - a personality contest that tells us very little about the relative academic success of any of the listed institutions.
Berkeley is #5 in the world (The London Higher Education Survey had us ranked similarly). USC is #54. I think most people around the world would find that a fair ranking.
And this isn't to demean USC. USC is a very solid school. However, Berkeley (and Stanford) remain among the world's very elite universities, and are always up there with Oxford and Cambridge in any global rankings.
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you are hilarious m2. rankings don't matter, but rankings matter when you say they do.
piss poor.
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Your team is actually ranked. They're not a bad squad.
Why do you still feel compelled to bait everyone into academic smack? Your guys are playing in Knoxville soon. Isn't there enough Cal/Football related stuff to be excited about, that you don't need to tool up every thread with academic "smack?"