Manny Ramirez = BIG FUCKING PUSSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ucant.#Ÿ³]

http://www.projo.com/redsox/content/pro ... fb41d.html

On Friday night, in the fifth inning of the disastrous day-nighter that would set the tone for the Lost Weekend, official scorer Joe Giuliotti determined that Manny Ramirez had reached on an error by Derek Jeter. Jeter had gone into the shortstop hole to backhand a hard grounder, only to have the ball glance off his glove and roll into shallow left.

On the play, teammate Mark Loretta, running from second base, was thrown out at home by Yankees left fielder Melky Cabrera.

Ramirez was enraged by the call, and was so angry about it the next day that he had to be talked into playing the Saturday afternoon game. On Sunday, Ramirez sought out an MLB official to try to get the call reversed.

Think about that: In the middle of the Sox' three most dispiriting losses of the season, suffered at the hands of the team's archrival, Ramirez sulked about losing credit for a meaningless single that didn't even involve an RBI.

That's perspective for you.

(To give credit where it's due, Ramirez had an otherwise monster series, making one out in the course of five games while reaching base in 19 of 20 plate appearances. He hit two homers and knocked in seven runs).

But with his team's season in the balance, Ramirez intended to sit out to protest a scorer's call? Would Jeter do that? Would David Ortiz? Would, in fact, any other player in the game?

It's not much of a leap to think that Ramirez's early exit from yesterday's game -- he pulled himself out of the lineup after the fourth inning, telling trainers he was suffering cramps in the right hamstring -- was connected to the events of the previous two days.

One player yesterday noted that while Ramirez had played hard for much of the season, the events of the last few days seemed to hint at an upcoming "episode" involving Ramirez, in which the slugger takes a decidedly indifferent approach to his play -- if he appears in the lineup at all..
Apparently, though, official scoring was a big topic of discussion on the homestand. On at least one other occasion, the subject came up in the dugout in the middle of the game as one player questioned aloud why a teammate hadn't been saddled with an error.

Finally, there was the eighth inning yesterday, when NESN cameras caught starter David Wells throwing up his hands, then shaking his head in disgust on his way down the dugout runway after catcher Javy Lopez failed to block a pitch from Keith Foulke in the dirt, enabling Nick Green to score from third. When Wily Mo Pena homered in the bottom of the inning, Green's run proved to be the difference in the game.

Still, such obvious displays of disgust toward on-field events are rare indeed for veterans, especially ones who have been in the big leagues for almost 20 seasons.

The losses -- and the team's elimination from the division race -- would be discouraging enough. Then, there's the growing injury list, which now features Alex Gonzalez, meaning exactly 33 percent of the regular lineup is now stashed on the DL.

But the team's descent into selfishness and infighting could truly doom them. The Sox' climb to a fourth-straight playoff appearance is going to be steep enough as it is. They don't need to make it any more difficult for themselves.



Big surprise... Manny suddenly pulls up lame when the season is on the line because the official scorer correctly ruled his meaningless single was in fact an error (I saw the play).

This guy is the biggest clubhouse cancer in all of sports. Dude had to be talked into playing the next couple of games and now is "on strike" (he hasn't played since the 5th inning of Monday's game due to a 'phantom hammie') until he gets this play called a hit. What a total faggot.

[Neely8]

It's rare that we are in agreement. There are Manny apologists and the guy can rake thats for sure, but I had enough of him a while ago. Why do you think they have tried to get rid of him for the past few years? It's not just the salary thats for sure......

[Ucant.#Ÿ³]

I'm sure most Sox fans will gladly trade the lack of hustle, mindless play in the OF, general idiocy on the basepaths, and occasional need for a day off (or 12) throughout the year for the 40 HR, 130 RBI, and protection for Papi that he provides.

But this... this is inexcusable. Dude flat out refused to play Sat until he got the thing changed to a hit... against the Yankees... in game three... of a five game tilt. He finally relented after Tito promised to take it to the highest authority and plays the next 2.5 games. Then... he gets word on Monday that it will indeed be scored an error and dude takes himself out of the game and hasn't returned since????????

OMG! WTF?

[Neely8]

I'm sure most Sox fans will gladly trade the lack of hustle, mindless play in the OF, general idiocy on the basepaths, and occasional need for a day off (or 12) throughout the year for the 40 HR, 130 RBI, and protection for Papi that he provides.

But this... this is inexcusable. Dude flat out refused to play Sat until he got the thing changed to a hit... against the Yankees... in game three... of a five game tilt. He finally relented after Tito promised to take it to the highest authority and plays the next 2.5 games. Then... he gets word on Monday that it will indeed be scored an error and dude takes himself out of the game and hasn't returned since????????

OMG! WTF?

Don't even get me started on the 7 different grandmothers who have died since he got here.....

[Frank Rizzo]

WHATA A JERKIOFF!!!!!!

[Neely8]

WHATA A JERKIOFF!!!!!!

Face fuck a semi troll......

[JCT]

ESPN was reporting that Tito was going to the league office to protest and get it changed to a hit so Manny will stop pouting and play.

Fucking hilarious! While he was pouting and taking his ball and going home, last night the Sox had Ortiz on 1st with 2 outs in the 9th down by one and instead of Big Pussy (he PH to lead off the inning and flew out.) hitting it was Yuk who flew out to end the game. 6 straight loses.

[JCT]

He bailed out of tonight's game in the 4th with a "sore knee".

[Shoalzie]

There's nothing wrong with complaining about the official scorer.

Sincerely,
Juan Gonzalez

[Jack]

I'll weigh in!!

As far as Manny arguing to get an error changed to a hit! Why is everyone else making a big thing over this??

(To give credit where it's due, Ramirez had an otherwise monster series, making one out in the course of five games while reaching base in 19 of 20 plate appearances. He hit two homers and knocked in seven runs).

and Manny's Hammy!! Maybe it's real Maybe it's imaginary!!

Why are you getting wrapped around the axle??

IF Manny actually refused to play until he got the call changed.. SHAME ON HIM!!

But here comes my point (in question form)!

Would you rather have me playing my ass off every day, hustling out every time I hit the ball
Talking to the media, kissing hands, shaking babies???
I would probably hit.0069 but I would hustle out every play!!

or would you rather have Manny? The most aloof player, playing in his own world! Manny who doesn't run to first base most of the time. Manny who has blown many plays due to "Manny being Manny"!!


Okay maybe the comaprison to me is not the best...

Would you rather have Manny or A-Rod, when the pressure is on?
Do you want to get rid of a 40 HR, 140 RBI >.300 AVG because you think he could do better??

Hell, No!!

Manny is a savant!! He is among the greatest hitters for Power and Average ever to play the game!! http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players ... =ramirma02

I will take Manny on my team and deal with his many Mannyisms. because I would rather have a seemingly lazy, goofy player that can hit 40 + Home Runs, Knock in over 140 Runs and bat over .300 over a hard working dirt dog that hustles every day and every play but only hits 10-12 HomeRuns, Hits .260..

I will respect the Dirt Dog more and root harder for the Dirt Dog but when it comes time to choosing who I want on my team..
See Below

[Jack]

Manny is certainly a role model to admire for the present day and age.

blah.. blah.. blahh.

And Jason Giambi and Gary Sheffield's Steroid and HGH use is to be admired???

[Jack]

We're not discussing steroid issues. We're not discussing steroid issues. We're not discussing steroid issues. We're not discussing steroid issues. We're not discussing steroid issues. We're not discussing steroid issues. We're not discussing steroid issues. We're not discussing steroid issues.

>>>>

People that Live in Glass Houses that Ruth Built shouldn't throw stones!

[Jack]

READ Todd!

I wrote=

Would you rather have Manny or A-Rod, when the pressure is on?
Do you want to get rid of a 40 HR, 140 RBI >.300 AVG because you think he could do better??

Hell, No!!

Manny is a savant!! He is among the greatest hitters for Power and Average ever to play the game!! http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players ... =ramirma02

I will take Manny on my team and deal with his many Mannyisms. because I would rather have a seemingly lazy, goofy player that can hit 40 + Home Runs, Knock in over 140 Runs and bat over .300 over a hard working dirt dog that hustles every day and every play but only hits 10-12 HomeRuns, Hits .260..

I will respect the Dirt Dog more and root harder for the Dirt Dog but when it comes time to choosing who I want on my team..
... Manny!..

I don't idolize. I recognize and realize talent!
How do you know Manny didn't have a tight hammy or balky knee?

You don't!

Now, I will ask you a question..

Should A-Rod take a few days off to clear his head? to help him stop gripping?
to help him RELAX? to help him deal with the pressure of playing serious baseball in a serious market?

or should A-Rod keep playing through this funk he is in?

I think he should take a week off!!

But according to you, Tard, Ballplayers shouldn't take days off unless they are crippled.

They say an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I agree!

Maybe Manny taking a few days off helps him avoid acting like an A-Rod!!

(Sunday- ARod - 1 for 5 with 5 Ks
Saturday - ARod 0 for 5 with 3 Ks
Friday - AROD 0 for 5 with 4 Ks
Thursday ARod 0 for 1 with 1 K)

Would it have been better for A- Rod to sit this last few games or was it beneficial for the Yankees that he played?

[JCT]

This thread isn't about A-Rod. It's about Manny being Manny.


Slip sliding away...


It's about Manny being the whiny cunt he's always been, I bet he'll be demanding a trade within a week.

Slip sliding away....


He sees the writing on the wall. He knows that if it wasn't for the beating the Sox gave to shitty NL teams in interleague play that the Red Sox are a sub .500 team ( 55-57 vs the AL, 16 -2 in interleague) and would probably be in 3rd in the East.


You know the nearer your destination, the more you slip sliding away.


Enjoy the golf in October.

[Jack]

Speaking of Suzyn Waldman...

Do you what MLB Team she grew up rooting for??

[JCT]

Now Big Sloppy is out. Manny still out. Lester to the DL. Prepare to get smoked by the A's.

[Jack]

Now Big Sloppy is out. Manny still out. Lester to the DL. Prepare to get smoked by the A's.

Smoke me like a Carl Pavano Cigar!!

Pavano, who hasn't played in the major leagues since June 27, 2005, due to shoulder, back, buttocks and elbow injuries, is scheduled for a medical checkup Tuesday and remains on track to make his final rehabilitation start Wednesday for Triple-A Columbus at Durham.

Yankees pitcher Carl Pavano has a pair of broken ribs, sustained in a mid-August car accident that the oft-injured right-hander didn't tell the team about until Monday.
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and Manny's a punk for taking time off to heal his hamstrings...

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What has Pavano done for the Yankees??

“My heart was always with this team,” he said Wednesday after signing his $39.95 million, four-year contract with the Yankees. “Who doesn’t want to play for the Yankees? Everyone dreams one day to play for the New York Yankees.”
(SAID BY PAVANO when he was signed by the Yankees!!)
- He's still dreaming!-

[JCT]

What's that have to do with this? Focus. This thread is about Manny. Not A-rod, not Pavano.

Manny's a punk for taking time off to heal his hamstrings

Damon has been playing with a broken bone in his FOOT for 2 months.

Your team is melting down.

4-0 A's and you guys are walking in runs right now.

7 out by game end.

[JCT]

Wait, scratch that Damon has had a broken bone in foot since April. Hope Manny's sore knee feels better soon. Maybe Big Slappy should kiss his boo boo.

[Jack]

Wait, scratch that Damon has had a broken bone in foot since April. Hope Manny's sore knee feels better soon. Maybe Big Slappy should kiss his boo boo.

What's that have to do with this? Focus. This thread is about Manny. Not A-rod, not Pavano,

not Damon...

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I will give you a clue about conversations... they flow and change. That is how they keep going. If you want 1 thread to only talk about Manny and his hamstring problem.. then according to your rules only say that and nothing else.
( I will bet you have trouble conversing in social situations!!)

If we follwed your "RULE", you would have to
open a thread about Big Papi

and then another about the Red Sox slide.
and then another and another
(and it wouldn't flow!!!)

BUT if you can stop being so obtuse, you can see that Manny has his hammy problem, A-Rod has his gripping problem, Shef and Giambi have their HGH (Steroid) problem, Pavano has his constant injury problems..

Everyone has problems and Manny's knee/hammy is a constant problem but at the end of the season, you have to say he contributed to this team and did not choke when the pressure was on, did not cause a steroid controversy and was not injured for more than half his contract.

Yes, Manny is a frustrating individual but I would rather have Manny on my team (and so would you) than A-Rod, Giambi, Sheffileld or Pavano.

[JCT]

I KC Pauled this from somewhere else.

Oh Ramirez
You're breaking my heart
You're shaking my confidence daily
Oh Ramirez,
I'm down on my knees
I'm beggin' you please to play ball

So play ball

Oh Ramirez,
Your grandma's not dead
Your hamstring's not red
I'm sick of your tired excuses

Oh Ramirez,
You can't catch the ball
You won't crash the wall
Or play ball

So play ball.

Please play ball...............

Sox are going down faster than a tijuana hooker. You're going to be in 3rd place in the East by Saturday.

[Jack]

Sox are going down faster than a tijuana hooker. You're going to be in 3rd place in the East by Saturday.

Nothing is over until we decide it is!