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Do you find this behavior troubling?

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:20 pm
by M2
In an article from ESPN.com:

"Tennessee receivers coach Trooper Taylor said the Bears also made the Volunteers' jobs easier. Taylor said the Volunteers were able to pick up California's defensive signals from the coaches' box and relay the signals to the sideline. So sometimes, Ainge knew what defense he was going to face before he even stepped to the line of scrimmage."

Article:


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/s ... d=tab2pos1


Wow, that really bites if they were doing that. An unfair home field advantage if the Cal sideline is situated across from them, whereas the Cal coaches' box can't see the Tennessee sideline signals from their angle to due it facing away from them. Pretty troubling shit. Does this kind of thing happen all the time? If so, maybe Cal needs to encript its signals better.

Anyway, this may explain why Cal was caught with its pants down on those throws to SQT's side, where there was nobody around to aid the young man (i.e. Ainge may have known before he broke huddle that there would be isolation for Meachem with SQT on those plays). Bastards, resorting to poker tricks (like the Lannigan character on the train in The Sting).

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:40 pm
by Vito Corleone
Sounds to me like Kal needs to join the 21st century and get some headsets.

Or maybe do what baseball does and have two people doing the signaling.

Don't blame the opponent for your short comings.

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:41 pm
by Cross Traffic
More excuses for Kal getting plungered yesterday?

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:56 pm
by SoCalTrjn
its almost like feCal fans want their team to play in an AYSO league where its all about fair play and not keeping score

Re: Do you find this behavior troubling?

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:26 pm
by GreginPG
m2 wrote:In an article from ESPN.com:

"Tennessee receivers coach Trooper Taylor said the Bears also made the Volunteers' jobs easier. Taylor said the Volunteers were able to pick up California's defensive signals from the coaches' box and relay the signals to the sideline. So sometimes, Ainge knew what defense he was going to face before he even stepped to the line of scrimmage."

Article:


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/s ... d=tab2pos1


Wow, that really bites if they were doing that. An unfair home field advantage if the Cal sideline is situated across from them, whereas the Cal coaches' box can't see the Tennessee sideline signals from their angle to due it facing away from them. Pretty troubling shit. Does this kind of thing happen all the time? If so, maybe Cal needs to encript its signals better.

Anyway, this may explain why Cal was caught with its pants down on those throws to SQT's side, where there was nobody around to aid the young man (i.e. Ainge may have known before he broke huddle that there would be isolation for Meachem with SQT on those plays). Bastards, resorting to poker tricks (like the Lannigan character on the train in The Sting).
No, not "troubling shit" at all. You see, that's why they call it home field advantage. Aww screw it.

Sucks for Kal.

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:33 pm
by JayDuck
This is nothing new for Cal to bitch about either.

The first time we played Cal, with Tedford as the coach, he had not changed his signals from what he used as the Oregon OC. When we beat Cal they bitched that we were stealing their signs and knew what plays they were running.

Don't blame us for being stupid enough to show up at your former school without having changed your play signals.

Obviously Tedford is doing something wrong when it comes to sending in signals, because I've never heard any other team bitch about signal stealing, let alone bitch about it multiple times.

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:40 pm
by Danimal
Trying to figure opposition signals is hardly new or illegal tool. The only way I can see any problem with it is if you tapped-in to the opposition headsets or through cloak-and-dagger means stole information on how to read that team's signals from that team. Geez this is a weak excuse, Cal wasn't careful and Tenn took advantage of that, end of story.

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:49 pm
by Jimmy Medalions
SoCalTrjn wrote:its almost like feCal fans want their team to play in an AYSO league where its all about fair play and not keeping score
Rack.

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:33 pm
by Laxplayer
Oh Christ, you'll come up with any excuse won't you. One of the most difficult things to do is steal hand signals from an opposing football team. There are so many things tht can be done that mean nothing that it's impossible to figure out. Quit your bitching. You got your ass kicked.

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:56 pm
by M2
Laxplayer wrote:Oh Christ, you'll come up with any excuse won't you. One of the most difficult things to do is steal hand signals from an opposing football team. There are so many things tht can be done that mean nothing that it's impossible to figure out.
It seems you have a difficult time with reading and comprehension, or you just enjoy playing follow the leader with some of the other posters that didn't even read my post... yet had some shit to say that made no sense.

Let me help you out here...and take this to someone with comprehension superpowers . Mmmkay.

The quote came from one of the "Tennessee" coaches and not from me.

Here it is...

In an article from ESPN.com:

"Tennessee receivers coach Trooper Taylor said the Bears also made the Volunteers' jobs easier. Taylor said the Volunteers were able to pick up California's defensive signals from the coaches' box and relay the signals to the sideline. So sometimes, Ainge knew what defense he was going to face before he even stepped to the line of scrimmage."

Laxplayer wrote:Quit your bitching. You got your ass kicked.
The only one bitching is you, but with your comprehension skills, you'll never figure that out.

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:09 am
by Laxplayer
Ok numb nuts, if you've ever been on a head set (and I'm sure you haven't) the coaches in the booth suggest things, or make calls to the coaches down on the field, then the calls are signaled in. For example I may say something like 722 bullets cover 0. What the hell does that mean?
What about this? 606 double lightning cover 1. Do you have any idea? What about 723 cover 7? My cover 7 may be different than yours, or you may call cover 0 something other than what I call it. Unless you know the terminology of the other team it's very difficult to figure it out.
Here try this: Ace Right firm, 272 delay corner close.
I right Toff, tim 727 swing, close.

I'll give you as much time as you need to figure each of those out Einstein. When you do, please get back to me. I should be around 80 by then.

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:30 am
by M2
Laxplayer wrote:Ok numb nuts, if you've ever been on a head set (and I'm sure you haven't) the coaches in the booth suggest things, or make calls to the coaches down on the field, then the calls are signaled in. For example I may say something like 722 bullets cover 0. What the hell does that mean?
What about this? 606 double lightning cover 1. Do you have any idea? What about 723 cover 7? My cover 7 may be different than yours, or you may call cover 0 something other than what I call it. Unless you know the terminology of the other team it's very difficult to figure it out.
Here try this: Ace Right firm, 272 delay corner close.
I right Toff, tim 727 swing, close.

I'll give you as much time as you need to figure each of those out Einstein. When you do, please get back to me. I should be around 80 by then.
Shit for brains... I was offered a scholarship to UCLA as a tailback. I was walked around the campus by " JoJo Townsell " who later played for the Jets.

I had over a hundred letters from schools around the country by the end of my soph. year. Take your shit "calling"/plays to someone who gives a shit.

You fucked up, and now you want to go to formation calls?

Unreal! :meds:

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:46 am
by Van
^^^^

"Love and marriage...love and marriage...go together like a horse and carriage..."

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:46 am
by Sky
m2 wrote:Shit for brains... I was offered a scholarship to UCLA as a tailback. I was walked around the campus by " JoJo Townsell " who later played for the Jets.

I had over a hundred letters from schools around the country by the end of my soph. year. Take your shit "calling"/plays to someone who gives a shit.

You fucked up, and now you want to go to formation calls?

Unreal! :meds:
Well for starters, I tend to skip right over your posts so I have never read this before. Maybe you have said it before, maybe you haven't. However, now that I am privy to this information, I would like to recant any previous discredit I have directed toward you. You, apparently, are THE expert on everything college football. In fact, you could probably rule the NFL forum like you do for us CFB guys. I didn't know you had such a storied background and I would like to sign up as your apprentice or page. Whatever you need, I am here to support you if you would only bestow some of your vast knowledge on me.

For starters, could you explain what these mean:
722 bullets cover 0
606 double lightning cover 1
723 cover 7
Ace Right firm, 272 delay corner close
I right Toff, tim 727 swing, close

Thanks in advance for your pity and generosity.

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:54 am
by M2
Sky wrote: For starters, could you explain what these mean:
722 bullets cover 0
606 double lightning cover 1
723 cover 7
Ace Right firm, 272 delay corner close
I right Toff, tim 727 swing, close

Thanks in advance for your pity and generosity.
No, if it means anything.

Every team has it's own terminology... but you already knew that. :meds:

P.S. I played on offense and those would "maybe" be D calls.

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:59 am
by Sky
m2 wrote:No, if it means anything.

Every team has it's own terminology... but you already knew that. :meds:


Doesn't that kind of refute your entire argument in this thread? Or was Tenn employing windtalkers to decipher the code?
P.S. I played on offense and those would "maybe" be D calls.

Oh, so you aren't privy to what the defense is doing. Funny, it sounds like you only look at one side of the issue.

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:00 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Shit for brains... I was offered a scholarship to UCLA as a tailback. I was walked around the campus by " JoJo Townsell " who later played for the Jets.

I had over a hundred letters from schools around the country by the end of my soph. year
It's good to know that if the whole wind chime thing doesn't work out, you'll have a career in football to fall back on.

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:21 am
by the_ouskull
You went from (allegedly) getting D1 tailback offers to hocking wind chimes?

Yeah, I'm buying neither.

the_ouskull

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:46 pm
by The Seer
m2 wrote:
Shit for brains... I was offered a scholarship to UCLA as a tailback. I was walked around the campus by " JoJo Townsell " who later played for the Jets.

Dear m2,

As I'm sure you'll agree, I have put forth a strong effort not to pile on when you are getting hammered by those in here. I also have nothing against anyone that wishes to hang out where women don't shave their legs or wear deordorant whilst you try to peddle your chimes. I admire you unflinching loyalty to Kal, and truly hope they win a MNC with their 4 losses sometime.

But with all due respect, why have you chosen my team/school of choice to tarnish and sully? A hundred some odd D-1 schools and you had to pick those 4 letters (UCLA) in your hallucination!

However, as a Pac 10 poster, I will aid in your eternal quest for legitimacy. PM me with at least your real last name and I will verify your scholie offer. If true, I will stand behind Sky as one of your interns.

Looking forward to your reply,


The Seer

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:09 pm
by Sky
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:23 pm
by indyfrisco
I thought his name was Ray Finkel.

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:37 pm
by orcinus
Finkel is Einhorn ... Einhorn is Finkel.

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:07 pm
by KC Scott
m2 wrote:
Shit for brains... I was offered a scholarship to UCLA as a tailback. I was walked around the campus by " JoJo Townsell " who later played for the Jets.

I had over a hundred letters from schools around the country by the end of my soph. year. Take your shit "calling"/plays to someone who gives a shit.
Archive, Sig File and Frame this puppy.

This is the Single greatest Flinging of pure Bullshit ever written on T1B.

M2 has made Dins believable by comparison.

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:40 pm
by Mr T
Yes I do find your posting behavior troubling

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:12 pm
by Rack Fu
mdunce made that UCLA scholarship claim over at TOT a couple of years back.

He never provided one shed of proof that time either.

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:25 pm
by the_ouskull
I have my suspicions as to why...

the_ouskull

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:51 am
by M2
the_ouskull wrote:I have my suspicions as to why...

the_ouskull
Let's here them... Kimosabe

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:57 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Good lord.

Even the most mundane of jokes (no offense, ou) zips right over m2's head.

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:58 am
by Rack Fu
m2 wrote:
the_ouskull wrote:I have my suspicions as to why...

the_ouskull
Let's here them... Kimosabe
I'll answer for him...

Because you're full of shit.

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:03 am
by RadioFan
Image

B-T, m2

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:07 am
by M2
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Good lord.

Even the most mundane of jokes (no offense, ou) zips right over m2's head.
Really, the joke is on you.

I think you may have missed it. :lol:

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:11 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Ahhhh, a slight variant of "I know you are but what am I" smack.

Yeah, that's a winner.

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:14 am
by RadioFan
m2, though the damage is already done, I'm only going to say this once: Eject. Eject now, via the way of Goose, if you have to.

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:19 am
by M2
Rack Fu wrote:
m2 wrote:
the_ouskull wrote:I have my suspicions as to why...

the_ouskull
Let's here them... Kimosabe
I'll answer for him...

Because you're full of shit.
Really?

You talk a big game as an FBI agent... yet you do nothing but ankle bite.

Here's a clue... Terra Linda H.S. and the only player on the team to be named ALL- Northern California along with "Kevin Wilhite" the brother of Gerald Wilhite of the Denver Broncos.

Now... go Fu! go! :lol:

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:21 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Ok, for the sake of entertainment, I'll bite...

So, m2, you were "offered" a scholarship to play running back at UCLA, and had "hundreds" of letters from other schools.

What, exactly, haulted your advancement of this?

Career ending injury?

Let's hear it.

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:22 am
by M2
RadioFan wrote:m2, though the damage is already done, I'm only going to say this once: Eject. Eject now, via the way of Goose, if you have to.
Stick to threads... where you aren't getting your ass kicked.

I'll bring that thread if you'd like.

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:26 am
by Van
Image

"Oh great Ceasar's ghost! Give the fucking ball to Marshawn!!"

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:28 am
by M2
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Ok, for the sake of entertainment, I'll bite...

So, m2, you were "offered" a scholarship to play running back at UCLA, and had "hundreds" of letters from other schools.

What, exactly, haulted your advancement of this?

Career ending injury?

Let's hear it.
I seperated my shoulder in the second game of the season(as a jr.)... and didn't play 'til the North Coast' sectionals.

As a senior, I went through the motions, and took my visits. I really had no intent to play college ball after that.

It was cool to hangout with ballers, but I had other interests.

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:44 am
by Rack Fu
m2 wrote: but I had other interests.
I think you made a wise decision. Sucking cock and selling windchimes to a bunch of circus freaks certainly beats playing Div 1 football.

Props on that brilliant move.

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:57 am
by Sky
m2 wrote:Here's a clue... Terra Linda H.S. and the only player on the team to be named ALL- Northern California along with "Kevin Wilhite" the brother of Gerald Wilhite of the Denver Broncos.

Now... go Fu! go! :lol:
So if this is real, why beat around the bush...give us some real info.