11 of 12 big12 schools playing 1AA teams

[Adelpiero]

what a joke.


rack OU for keeping 1A teams on their schedule, and not making their fans pay $30+ to watch glorified scrimmages against 1AA teams.

[the_ouskull]

Damn right, you Rack OU. :D

the_ouskull

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

That might as well have been the case for MSU.

They found a way to schedule two of the worst teams in D1 in back to back games.

And in this case they can't use the old, "well we schedule these five years in advance" bailout considering both EMU and Idaho have been horrid for the last half decade, and considerably longer.

Shit, they did it right though. If you're going to schedule embarrassingly awful cupcakes, you might as well stick to the worst of the worst of D1, so you still get credit.

But in MSU's case, it's somewhat understandable considering they're not much better than some of these teams. Seriously.

[Danimal]

what a joke.


rack OU for keeping 1A teams on their schedule, and not making their fans pay $30+ to watch glorified scrimmages against 1AA teams.

Hell, $30 tickets are a freaking pipe-dream. To see the skers play crappy teams you are looking at $50. We have played a 1AA every year since Pedey took over as AD, pretty damn lame of us I must admit. What is the point of the extra game if all we get to see is some mismatched team show-up for a check?

By the way, props to the Pac10 for taking this opportunity to add another conference game and not just line their pockets with an extra home-game against Northwest Corner of Southern Idaho A&M.

[Van]

Nicholls....State.

Bwaa.

[Vito Corleone]

Lots of teams had to scramble to add a 12th opponent. There wasn't a lot of choice.

[SoCalTrjn]

if everyone had to scramble to add a 12th opponent, why didnt they all just add eachother?

[SoCalTrjn]

I mean here the NCAA is giving everyone a chance to get a big time game, a 12th game, the possibilities were epic.
All the schools ADs had to do was reach down between their legs, grab their balls and pull the trigger on home and homes vs other big time programs. With all of these games vs 1aa's it looks like most of your schools AD's reached between their legs and all they felt was pussy

[Van]

Also, when you actually schedule big time teams five years in advance you never have to worry about them bailing out on you and leaving you having to scramble for a replacement.

If you call up ND's or Tennessee's A.D. and you forge an agreement with the them to play a home and home then hey, consider it written in stone. They're going to show up, on time, per the agreement.

Certain teams schedule THREE OOC cupcakes, most every year. All home games...never any home and home series reciprocation, just home game gimmees. Their seasons often consist of 4 measly roadies and 8 home games (including three controlled scrimmages that'll somehow still count as BCS points padding wins)...a ridiculously unbalanced schedule.

Teams who do that deserve every BCS snub they ever get.

[Van]

If you call up ND's or Tennessee's A.D. and you forge an agreement with the them to play a home and home then hey, consider it written in stone. They're going to show up, on time, per the agreement.

Yeah, not so much. Still waiting on that return game from 1999.

Dunno the history there like you do but I seriously doubt ND agreed to a home and home with OU and then bailed on their end of the bargain.

Are you saying ND entered into a contractual agreement to do a home and home with OU and then they reneged on the agreement after first getting their home game?

[The Seer]

if everyone had to scramble to add a 12th opponent, why didnt they all just add eachother?

They had to scramble for a guaranteed win.

[Van]

if everyone had to scramble to add a 12th opponent, why didnt they all just add eachother?

They had to scramble for an extra home game or two that was also going to be an extra guaranteed win or two.

FTFY

[Van]

Makes sense, sure, but I'm sure ND Fan would state with equal certainty that there was never a firm agreement so they didn't renege on anything...

I'm definitely going to assume then that there was never any contractual agreement.

[Van]

Guess we'll have to wait then for Terry or Killian to come in with the explanation...

[Van]

Yeah, fine, but 2015? Will Terry's prostate hold out that long??

:-)

[Vito Corleone]

if everyone had to scramble to add a 12th opponent, why didnt they all just add eachother?

Not too many teams willing to add a sure loss to their schedule. :D

seriously, Texas tried to add Boston College, New Mexico, Pitt, and SDSU, none wanted to come to Austin without a return trip. So they decided to take a local school. I'm not too worried about it as long as they don't try and make this a regular happening.

[Terry in Crapchester]

Lots of teams had to scramble to add a 12th opponent. There wasn't a lot of choice.

True, but like Mgo pointed out, some did it right. ND added Army. If you have to scramble to get a 12th opponent, better one of the worst in 1A than a 1AA team.

[Cornhusker]

I don't get what all the fuss is about.
1AA teams are a bitch!


Sin.
Dan Hawkins

[indyfrisco]

if everyone had to scramble to add a 12th opponent, why didnt they all just add eachother?

I feel dirty, but that's a pretty deece take.

I agree as well.

[PSUFAN]

Again, I wish that the NCCA would not allow teams of different divisions to play one another. I know the spreadsheet fans disagree, but I just don't care, because I'm a football fan.

ADs in charge of programs like PSU and Texas should be able to run things from a financial standpoint. That's what they're paid to do. It annoys me to read fellow PSU fans take up the various financial arguments, such as "we can't afford to play Pitt or WVU".

Baloney.

[indyfrisco]

I, too, would like to see the Div 1-AA games removed from the 1-A schedules. I would also like to see about 20 1-A programs moved to 1-AA.

I would like to see the NCAA REQUIRE all 1-A teams to have 2 OOC home games and 2 OOC road games each year.

I would like to see the NCAA NOT allow teams to pay for another team to come to their house and get shit on. If your program can't afford to travel, you don't deserve to be in 1-A.

[Vito Corleone]

I, too, would like to see the Div 1-AA games removed from the 1-A schedules. I would also like to see about 20 1-A programs moved to 1-AA.

I would like to see the NCAA REQUIRE all 1-A teams to have 2 OOC home games and 2 OOC road games each year.

I would like to see the NCAA NOT allow teams to pay for another team to come to their house and get shit on. If your program can't afford to travel, you don't deserve to be in 1-A.

The SEC would implode.

[SoCalTrjn]

if everyone had to scramble to add a 12th opponent, why didnt they all just add eachother?

Not too many teams willing to add a sure loss to their schedule. :D

seriously, Texas tried to add Boston College, New Mexico, Pitt, and SDSU, none wanted to come to Austin without a return trip. So they decided to take a local school. I'm not too worried about it as long as they don't try and make this a regular happening.

Then sign a fuckin home and home, what kind of bullshit is that. "We only wanted to play teams who were not strong enough to demand a return trip to their facility" The reason so many schools have these lopsided with home game schedules vs all these patsie schools is because the schools are ran by cunts and defending that way of thinking makes you look like a cunt as well. The NCAA needs to step in and make the schedules for the schools to prevent any further pussification of this sport or we will wind up with every school in d1 holding out for 7 and 8 home games every year.

[SoCalTrjn]

I, too, would like to see the Div 1-AA games removed from the 1-A schedules. I would also like to see about 20 1-A programs moved to 1-AA.

I would like to see the NCAA REQUIRE all 1-A teams to have 2 OOC home games and 2 OOC road games each year.

I would like to see the NCAA NOT allow teams to pay for another team to come to their house and get shit on. If your program can't afford to travel, you don't deserve to be in 1-A.

Pac 10 teams only get 3 OOC games but other than that, I agree. I would go as far as saying that if you play a 1aa team, not only does that game not count towards a bowl, you will also need to win 10 of your remaining 11 games to become bowl eligible.

Lets not forget that the entire Sun Belt conference was moved up to 1A so that SEC schools wouldnt have so many games vs 1AA's every year.

[indyfrisco]

Pac 10 teams only get 3 OOC games but other than that, I agree.

In my scenario, you basically are doing "home and homes" with the added conf game. You should have an equal numebr of home and road games as teams in other conferences.

I would go as far as saying that if you play a 1aa team, not only does that game not count towards a bowl, you will also need to win 10 of your remaining 11 games to become bowl eligible.

In my scenario, these games aren't even allowed.

Lets not forget that the entire Sun Belt conference was moved up to 1A so that SEC schools wouldnt have so many games vs 1AA's every year.

Part of my "remove 20 or so teams" argument.

[PSUFAN]

I definitely like Indy's suggestions. Dropping weaker teams would be great.

[SoCalTrjn]

why stop with dropping 20 teams? theres about 40 teams that should be dropped to 1aa.

I dont know about the rest of the Pac but USC has 6 home and 6 road games this year

[indyfrisco]

I dont know about the rest of the Pac but USC has 6 home and 6 road games this year

Like what has been said...schedules are made 5-10 years in advance. Look at USC 5-10 years ago. A home game wasn't that big a deal as far as crowds were concerned.

USC can now write their own ticket with home and homes. They need it more than others due to conference strength. I give them credit for doing the right thing by scheduling tougher OOC games. Of course, I did not even come CLOSE to buying into the Arkansas hype. That's a shit team. Bravo on Neb and ND though.

[Van]

BtH, that's class of you to own up to that. I was going to be seriously surprised if it'd turned out that yes indeed, ND bailed on a contractual home and home agreement with anybody, much less a program with the stature of an OU...

[Vito Corleone]

if everyone had to scramble to add a 12th opponent, why didnt they all just add eachother?

Not too many teams willing to add a sure loss to their schedule. :D

seriously, Texas tried to add Boston College, New Mexico, Pitt, and SDSU, none wanted to come to Austin without a return trip. So they decided to take a local school. I'm not too worried about it as long as they don't try and make this a regular happening.

Then sign a fuckin home and home, what kind of bullshit is that. "We only wanted to play teams who were not strong enough to demand a return trip to their facility" The reason so many schools have these lopsided with home game schedules vs all these patsie schools is because the schools are ran by cunts and defending that way of thinking makes you look like a cunt as well. The NCAA needs to step in and make the schedules for the schools to prevent any further pussification of this sport or we will wind up with every school in d1 holding out for 7 and 8 home games every year.

Thats all nice and good but we didn't have room on our schedule in the near future for another OOC school. Texas already has agreements or are in negociations for all our OOC schedules for the next 10 years. Right now Texas is trying to get into games with schools from California and Florida for recruiting reasons. Arkansas is another school our AD is trying to revive a rivalry with. There was just no room on the schedule for a home and home. And our AD sure as hell wasn't going to give away a home game.

[Van]

It ought to be given away for him, by the NCAA.

Balanced schedules. 6-6. Everyone.

[Adelpiero]

if i hear 1 more dickwad AD tell us they are doing it to help the 1AA schools, i'm going to fuckin scream.


any team from big12 who scheduled a 1AA should be ashamed.





don;t give me the noone wanted to play, i'm sure louisana tech,army,mac schools, conference usa, etc would of obliged.

[SoCalTrjn]

Not too many teams willing to add a sure loss to their schedule. :D

seriously, Texas tried to add Boston College, New Mexico, Pitt, and SDSU, none wanted to come to Austin without a return trip. So they decided to take a local school. I'm not too worried about it as long as they don't try and make this a regular happening.

Then sign a fuckin home and home, what kind of bullshit is that. "We only wanted to play teams who were not strong enough to demand a return trip to their facility" The reason so many schools have these lopsided with home game schedules vs all these patsie schools is because the schools are ran by cunts and defending that way of thinking makes you look like a cunt as well. The NCAA needs to step in and make the schedules for the schools to prevent any further pussification of this sport or we will wind up with every school in d1 holding out for 7 and 8 home games every year.

Thats all nice and good but we didn't have room on our schedule in the near future for another OOC school. Texas already has agreements or are in negociations for all our OOC schedules for the next 10 years. Right now Texas is trying to get into games with schools from California and Florida for recruiting reasons. Arkansas is another school our AD is trying to revive a rivalry with. There was just no room on the schedule for a home and home. And our AD sure as hell wasn't going to give away a home game.

Not buying that shit arguement. Its not like the NCAA said "here's a 12th game but just for 2006" If you were just given 1 extra game a year and were suddenly facing an open date every year, you simply sign home and home 2 year contracts. again.... every school was in the same situation, those schools that are ran by MEN called up other big schools ran by MEN and signed home and home deals, those ran by cunts signed up 1aa's.

[Vito Corleone]

When Mack spoke to the Exes in Dallas he talked a lot about trying to schedule a D1-A opponent but couldn't because the ones that did either wanted it at their house or minimum of a Home and Home. You have to know that our AD Deloss Dodds is a money first man and won't schedule anyone unless he gets big money (Home game) or its in a place with a recruiting advantage for Texas.

Right now Texas is trying hard to get games in Florida and California.

[SoCalTrjn]

When Mack spoke to the Exes in Dallas he talked a lot about trying to schedule a D1-A opponent but couldn't because the ones that did either wanted it at their house or minimum of a Home and Home. You have to know that our AD Deloss Dodds is a money first man and won't schedule anyone unless he gets big money (Home game) or its in a place with a recruiting advantage for Texas.

Right now Texas is trying hard to get games in Florida and California.

Thats what you have to give up to get other big programs to play.

Any intersectional game vs another powerhouse regardless of what state theyre from is going to get Texas exposure, look at what the Ohio State series has done, to say that you were only open to talk to schools in Fla and Cal is a cop out, what are there 6 programs in those 2 states that have any sort of credibility?

Deloss must be a womans name cause North Texas and Sam Houston State are bitch moves.

[Vito Corleone]

Texas is always going to schedule games in Dallas and Houston. We have too much of a vested interest in recruiting in those two cities. We also have huge alumni groups that like a home game in their city every other year. Say what you want about North Texas but they have been bowling pretty much every year. Rice and Texas have very strong ties and I don't see them coming off our schedule any time soon.

This is the first D1-AA team Texas has scheduled since the 80's, I can't even remember the last time Texas played a 1-AA team.

Like I said if it was happening on a regular basis then I would be upset but this was a one time thing.

[Vito Corleone]

Have you seen how hard it is to get tickets to that game? As much as we love the RRS, tickets to that game are almost imposible to get lately. Can't say the same for tickets to a North Texas game or in Houston to a Rice game. One of the big reasons we don't schedule U of H is because they stopped letting us play the game in the Astrodome. Now they have a dinky home stadium and we couldn't get our people in there.

[Van]

How very noble of Texas.

:big fuggen meds:

[indyfrisco]

Do you really fucking think recruits in Houston and Dallas have not heard of t.u.? SHitty argument.

[Van]

Exactly.

You wanna woo recruits? Play on tv. All Texas games are played on tv in those Texas towns where Texas schedules cupcakes.

Texas doesn't need to play Rice in Houston (or anywhere else) to woo recruits there and they don't need to play N. Texas EVER in order to recruit there.

Texas is Texas. They're like "Leave It To Beaver". They're on tv....