West Virginia

[M2]

Wow!

I was first to call them the #1 team in the country due to their schedule, with 88 coming in and giving the thumbs up on the call.

I just got in from work downstairs, and turned on the game and thought Cal was playing with Slaton #10 running around looking like Marshawn Lynch.

I wonder if Van still thinks WV isn't worthy of a top ranking? They sure as hell look like it, being up 28-0 with still over a minute left in the 1st quarter.

Damn impressive.

[Ken]

Tooting your horn 'cuz you picked a team #1 because of an easy schedule.

Get back to me when you pick a team to finish #1 with an SEC/B10 sched.

[Dinsdale]

Get back to me when you pick a team to finish #1 with an SEC/B10 sched.

Well, in his defense, he has picked a team to finish #1 with a PAC10 schedule...several times.

[M2]

Tooting your horn 'cuz you picked a team #1 because of an easy schedule.

Yep.

Get back to me when you pick a team to finish #1 with an SEC/B10 sched.

Naw, I'll stick with WV and their shit conference. I spoke with Sean Bailey, and he told me they're for real. I'll take a kid from Georgia/SEC's word for it.

That was part of my reasoning on why I took them, along with their schedule.

[Van]

What's Maryland ranked again?

We should put any credence in this or any other game W. Virgina plays during this regular season why again?

[RadioFan]

Damn impressive.

Hey dumbfuck ...

Try reading the board every once in a while.

[M2]

Damn impressive.

Hey dumbfuck ...

Try reading the board every once in a while.

hey midwest farmer boy... I made my call about 4 or 5 months ago, and a thread about the BCS a week and a half ago means nothing to me.

[RadioFan]

I made my call about 4 or 5 months ago, and a thread about the BCS a week and a half ago means nothing to me.

Which "call?" Specifically.

[MuchoBulls]

They still have to go to Louisville in early November. Even without Michael Bush, Louisville is still going to pose a big threat to them.

[M2]

I made my call about 4 or 5 months ago, and a thread about the BCS a week and a half ago means nothing to me.

Which "call?" Specifically.

m2 is the truth(Link)


Don't ever question, the truth



Roll on you Bears!!!

[Sky]

Dude, I love this guy. First he has to mention 88's name to "lend credit" to his call.

Wow!

I was first to call them the #1 team in the country due to their schedule, with 88 coming in and giving the thumbs up on the call.

Then he has to speak "about" Van as opposed to just asking Van (as if Van wouldn't take this opportunity to punish your ass.

And I FTFY

I just got in from work downstairs, making a new concrete dildo and I had to make a few more windchimes, and turned on the game and thought Cal was playing with Slaton #10 running around looking like Marshawn Lynch.

I wonder if Van still thinks WV isn't worthy of a top ranking? They sure as hell look like it, being up 28-0 with still over a minute left in the 1st quarter.

Damn impressive.

Fucking pathetic.

[PSUFAN]

I have to admit, I think this is a powerful team... RR knows what he's doing.

Regardless of their final situation, RR will be getting courted by some big time programs sooner than later. I guess the Appalachian in me would like to see it happen in Morgantown...where he actually builds that school up into a yearly MNC contender...but it's gonna happen somewhere.

[Van]

They still have to go to Louisville in early November. Even without Michael Bush, Louisville is still going to pose a big threat to them.

And again, when that's your one and only legitimate potential stumbling block to an undefeated season your schedule is so ridiculously bad that nobody will ever have any idea whatsoever whether or not you're truly a top caliber team.

[PSUFAN]

Van, that's how it looks right now. Sure, the Big East isn't the strongest conference over the past few seasons...but strangely enough, I think there are some good things beginning to happen there. Louisville will miss Bush, but they are definitely a strong offensive team. Pit...well, let's see what happens against Sparty. Rutgers...I have to admit, I'd like to see the State Uni of New Jersey put something together. Everyone likes those underdogs.

[stuckinia]

After the first quarter onslaught, Maryland was able to score 24 points on a "#1" defense and was able to contain the WVA offense, an offense that had White and Slaton in until the end. This is a Terp team, starting mostly freshmen and sophmores, that struggled against DIaa W&M and Middle Tenn St. Let's see what the Couch-burners look like against some real competition...oh wait...that only happens one time this season. Screw those ugly inbred food-gummers.

[Van]

PSU, part of it is their gawdawful conference. (Not their fault, obviously.) The rest of it though is their OOC schedule, which is just a joke.

Combine their conference schedule with their completely lacking in anything resembling ambition OOC schedule and you're left with a team that could be ranked 5th or 25th and either one would be equally valid considering the little we'll still know about them by season's end.

Has a team (other than Utah) ever ridden a season long bye into a BCS bowl game? It's probably going to happen, right here.

[Adelpiero]

wv beat a average terps team


when they couldnt run, their qb couldnt throw to save his life. your not going to get 13.5 yard per carry against good teams. overrated as fuck

[Terry in Crapchester]

Bunch of things to respond to here . . .

Regardless of their final situation, RR will be getting courted by some big time programs sooner than later. I guess the Appalachian in me would like to see it happen in Morgantown...where he actually builds that school up into a yearly MNC contender...but it's gonna happen somewhere.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Rodriguez a WVU grad? In that case, it improves the likelihood that he'll stay, particularly when you throw in the potential catbird seat he has available to him there.

. . . WV and their shit conference.

PSU, part of it is their gawdawful conference.

As Mucho has said, it's time to cut the Big East some slack. The conference isn't nearly as bad as most in here make it out to be. Both West Virginia and Louisville are legitimate BCS contenders this year (first time since '00 that the Big East has had a legitimate shot at sending two teams to the BCS). Pitt is much better than last year. While most of us think of Rutgers as a joke based on their history, they're quietly beginning to turn the corner. And both UConn and USF have come a long way in a relatively short period of time.

If you want to talk about overrated conferences, imho the ACC should be at the top of that list. Florida State hasn't showed me much so far, nor has Miami. If you look at teams supposed to be in the middle of the pack in that conference, North Carolina lost at home to Rutgers, NC State lost to a team from the MAC, and Maryland, while being able to avoid a complete blowout vs. West Virginia, fell so far behind so fast that undoubtedly a lot of folks never saw the last three quarters of a nationally televised game.

wv beat a average terps team

West Virginia jumped out to a 28 point first quarter lead against a traditional rival who plays in a BCS conference. Granted, Maryland did rack up 404 yards of total offense, but that sometimes happens when you fall so far behind so early.

[MuchoBulls]

And again, when that's your one and only legitimate potential stumbling block to an undefeated season your schedule is so ridiculously bad that nobody will ever have any idea whatsoever whether or not you're truly a top caliber team.

That's the MAJOR game and test they face.

The stumbling block could be the game @ PITT. I would say Rutgers or USF are ones, but WVU gets them both at home, so I would think it's safe to say that they will take care of business there.

Terry, thanks for the kind words.

[Nolesy]

Damn impressive.

Hey dumbfuck ...

Try reading the board every once in a while.

hey midwest farmer boy... I made my call about 4 or 5 months ago, and a thread about the BCS a week and a half ago means nothing to me.

Apparently you have'nt "made the call" to a mental health professional. Its not too late.

[Ken]

wv beat a average terps team


when they couldnt run, their qb couldnt throw to save his life. your not going to get 13.5 yard per carry against good teams. overrated as fuck

You are an imbecile. Sorry, but no other way to put it.
Perhaps if WVU only rushed for 89yds vs. Georgia last year. Or 100 yds, or even 150 yds. If that were the case, I might only have the urge to call you a partial imbecile. Maybe only missing your frontal lobe or the left or right side. But alas, that is not the case How 'bout 382 effing yards, adel? You are not just the recipient of a frontal labotomy, but a full labotomy.

I'm still noticing a bit of a slug-like piece of your brain at he bottom of your skull, so I may as well get the las little bit out...
Pat White can pass. Idiot. Did you watch ANY of the game last night? Any of WVU last year. Hell, he ain't a Peyton Manning (I'll give you that), but who is? You fall into the 98th percentile, a group of idiots who believe that just because a team runs a rushing offense, their QB must suck at tossin' the ball around. No, it couldn't be that Rodriguez is a damned good coach and understands that with two Heisman candidates in the backfield, you'll have success running. Couldn't be that.

[PSUFAN]

I have to admit to being on the Rutgers bandwagon. I think Schiano is a good coach. It's refreshing to watch a team that must live and die with their schemes, rather than talent. I hope they continue to develop positively.

[Ken]

Has a team (other than Utah) ever ridden a season long bye into a BCS bowl game? It's probably going to happen, right here.

What part aren't you getting, van? Look, none of us will argue WVU's weak schedule due to OOC and conf. affiliation. We understand that, so let it lie.
Your overall take is shortsighted. Very much so, if I may add. Simply put, to accurately gauge WVU's rankings, there just ain't enough info. You choose to not give them credit. I choose to do so. My reasoning is because that while they had an easy schedule last year too, they manhandled UGA in the Sugar Bowl. You choose to look at nothing other than schedule strength. You see, I'm at least basing my opinion on something. You're not. You're being stubborn and shortsighted.

[PSUFAN]

What part aren't you getting, van?

At very least, he seems to fail to understand that the Big East gets an automatic BCS bid.

It's still early. WVU will definitely be tested this year.

[Ken]

What part aren't you getting, van?

WVU will definitely be tested this year.

And if that happens to be vs. another powerful BCS team in a BCS bowl, then they get tested. And, I'm sure that in the very least, they'll put up a damned good fight.

But of course, that still wouldn't be good enough for Van.

[Van]

PSU, what makes you think I don't understand the Big East and ACC winners get automatic BCS bids? We all saw it play out last season and we all know it's coming again this season...

Ken, probably not, no it wouldn't.

Getting to coast all season long with only one game that a top tier team conceivably might lose (Louisville) is just too easy of a ride into a BCS game. The BCS game (unless it's the title game) would then pit them against somebody who actually had to work to get there and then is pissed that they got stuck playing W. Virginia rather than being matched up against somebody who would elevate their program.

Of course I understand W. Virginia has to also win their bowl game to completely run the table but my question about having a bye of a season referred only to the regular season.

No, as Terry suggests, it's not time to cut the Big East some slack. Quite the opposite. It's time to pile on them, until such time that they start playing OOC schedules that'll at least somewhat make up for the crap they play in conference.

Louisville plus a bowl game is not a true season long test (not even close) of a true national champion contender. Convince me W. Virginia could play week in, week out in the SEC, Big 10 or Pac 10 and that they could win those conferences to gain a berth in a BCS bowl game. Go ahead...

The ACC, right now, okay, that one they might be able to win. Hell, FSU won it last year.

Could W. Virginia beat out USC, Ohio State or Auburn? Could they even manage only one loss if they played in those conferences? What if they also played a real OOC schedule on top of it, including real road games OOC?

Still undefeated, or only one loss? Of course not. Make 'em have to get up multiple times throughout the season and they'd lose multiple times. You know it as well as I do.

Smoke and mirrors, that's it. With that schedule I hope they run the table, including their bowl game, and they still end up ranked fifth. It'd serve 'em right.

[PSUFAN]

I'm now officially hoping for a WVU/USC bowl matchup. That would really tie up some loose cannons ends.

[MuchoBulls]

No, as Terry suggests, it's not time to cut the Big East some slack. Quite the opposite. It's time to pile on them, until such time that they start playing OOC schedules that'll at least somewhat make up for the crap they play in conference.

The Big East has one of the better records against other BCS conferences this season so far. If Louisville were able to beat Miami, then that would further help prove that the Big East has come pretty far and pretty fast since Miami, VT, and BC left.

[Van]

PSU, unless everybody else loses there's no way that'll happen. Wouldn't that be special though, to see W. Virginia skate into the title game while everybody else fell by the wayside from playing real schedules...

Hey, maybe W. Virginia could even play...Florida State! We could have a title game pitting two undefeated teams ranked 5th and 12th.

[Van]

No, as Terry suggests, it's not time to cut the Big East some slack. Quite the opposite. It's time to pile on them, until such time that they start playing OOC schedules that'll at least somewhat make up for the crap they play in conference.

The Big East has one of the better records against other BCS conferences this season so far. If Louisville were able to beat Miami, then that would further help prove that the Big East has come pretty far and pretty fast since Miami, VT, and BC left.

I take it you haven't watched Miami play this season then....

[MuchoBulls]

I have watched Miami play and I have watched Louisville play a couple of times as well. Louisville can certainly beat them.

[Van]

YOU could beat them. ANYBODY could beat them. That's the point.

[MuchoBulls]

YOU could beat them. ANYBODY could beat them. That's the point.

Actually, we couldn't right now :sad: They do have a good D, but they're about to see ateam with much more offensive firepower than FSU has.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Combine their conference schedule with their completely lacking in anything resembling ambition OOC schedule

Four to six years ago, Maryland was churning out 10 and 11 win seasons, and going to big bowl games. I doubt WVU knew they'd go down hill so fast.

[Van]

Uhh, point being, Louisville beating Miami would only prove how far Miami has continued to fall. It wouldn't prove Louisville's worth, nor W. Virginia's, nor the Big East's.

Let W. Virginia go play a couple of home and home series per year against Ohio State, ND, USC or LSU, somebody on that level. Let's see how that pans out for them.

[Ken]

Before I read the rest of your post, this stuck out...

The BCS game (unless it's the title game) would then pit them against somebody who actually had to work to get there and then is pissed that they got stuck playing W. Virginia rather than being matched up against somebody who would elevate their program.

Yeah, just like UGA was pissed 'bout having to face 'em last year. Oh, and how PSU was pissed 'bout having to face a four loss FSU team that almost beat 'em. You're arguments are like a seive.

[Van]

Combine their conference schedule with their completely lacking in anything resembling ambition OOC schedule

Four to six years ago, Maryland was churning out 10 and 11 win seasons, and going to big bowl games. I doubt WVU knew they'd go down hill so fast.

Granted. Same deal with Miami, vis a vis Louisville.

Actually though, Miami is a better example. Even when Maryland was "good" they really...weren't. Not much, anyway.

I can't fault W. Virginia for what happened to their conference. I can't even completely fault them for the entirety of their OOC schedule. I can however call a spade a spade and say that their schedule is so soft that it isn't a national champion contender's schedule. Regardless of their record, they will not have earned the right to play somebody legitimate for a national title...

[Terry in Crapchester]

Combine their conference schedule with their completely lacking in anything resembling ambition OOC schedule

Four to six years ago, Maryland was churning out 10 and 11 win seasons, and going to big bowl games. I doubt WVU knew they'd go down hill so fast.

In fairness, IIRC, Maryland only had the one big season -- in '01, when they went to the BCS.

From WVU's standpoint, this game isn't about scheduling a "tough" OOC matchup so much as it is about a traditional rival from a neighboring state where the fan bases of both teams expect an annual matchup even though they're not in the same conference. In that regard, like I've said earlier, this series is something akin to a poor man's ND-Michigan or ND-Michigan State.

[Van]

Before I read the rest of your post, this stuck out...

The BCS game (unless it's the title game) would then pit them against somebody who actually had to work to get there and then is pissed that they got stuck playing W. Virginia rather than being matched up against somebody who would elevate their program.

Yeah, just like UGA was pissed 'bout having to face 'em last year. Oh, and how PSU was pissed 'bout having to face a four loss FSU team that almost beat 'em. You're arguments are like a seive.

Two great examples, actually. In both games you had far better teams playing down to the level of their competition.

Your point also misses the main point which is that a Penn State actually had to fight through the regular season in order to get to that game. W. Virginia didn't. FSU didn't. Well, actually, FSU did, and they fought poorly and lost all over the place and they won the bid by default anyway.

Would W. Virginia have gotten into the Sugar if they actually played in the SEC all season long? You're lying your ass off if you say anything but, "No, of course not. They wouldn't have won the SEC if they actually had to play in it all season long."

[Van]

Combine their conference schedule with their completely lacking in anything resembling ambition OOC schedule

Four to six years ago, Maryland was churning out 10 and 11 win seasons, and going to big bowl games. I doubt WVU knew they'd go down hill so fast.

In fairness, IIRC, Maryland only had the one big season -- in '01, when they went to the BCS.

From WVU's standpoint, this game isn't about scheduling a "tough" OOC matchup so much as it is about a traditional rival from a neighboring state where the fan bases of both teams expect an annual matchup even though they're not in the same conference. In that regard, like I've said earlier, this series is something akin to a poor man's ND-Michigan or ND-Michigan State.

Then restore the W. Virginia-Va Tech rivalry game and keep it there, from now on. We don't need Maryland-W. Virginia.