Thank God for winter

[Sky]

We need to be seeing more of this:



And less of this:



You would think, with all the things ND complains about, they could at least ask their coach to wear something some what concealing.

[WolverineSteve]

That's the Parcells look.

[Killian]

He looks like an eight.

Btw, rack that. As I said in another thread, he needs a bigger belt. And a personal dietitician (sp).

[indyfrisco]

Or he can just cut the pancakes and stick to the bacon.

[L45B]

"Hey ref, my ass is huuuuuuuuuuuuuge."

[Terry in Crapchester]

I honestly don't know why so many people are harping on Weis' appearance. As long as we're winning, graduating players and obeying the NCAA rules, I personally don't care if he has four heads, with a pair of antennae on each and a single eye in the middle of the forehead of each, and green skin. OTOH, if he's not meeting those requirements, he could look like JON's latest mancrush and that still won't be enough to save him.

[Cicero]

FAT SHIT








sin,

[Van]

Terry, nobody really cares about how he looks. Certainly nobody thinks any less of him as a coach because of his weight.

It's just funny, is all. People make jokes. It's just universal, especially here.

[Sky]

TiC, I won't say he is the worst because these guys certainly give him some competition:

Tom Amstutz



Ralph Friedgen



And one of my all time favorites:
Mark Mangino


However, I don't have to look at these fat fucks every week like I do Weis, so he gets top billing.

[Degenerate]

I'm guessing Mangino's black tank-top sweater is a 48XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXL. Rack the fat man.

[Sky]

On most people Mangino's sunglasses would look like this:

[Terry in Crapchester]

Terry, nobody really cares about how he looks. Certainly nobody thinks any less of him as a coach because of his weight.

It's just funny, is all. People make jokes. It's just universal, especially here.

I suppose I could be wrong about this, but some of these comments sound like they're going a little beyond the joking point to me:

Those problems can also be corrected by having enough fucking will power to not shovel another creamy, sugary, fatty morsel in to your blubbery gullet and actually putting forth a small fraction of the effort to stay in shape that you would demand from your players.
I always wondered how a tub of shit like that can sit there and bitch to his team about conditioning when you know he couldnt do a lap around the track without the use of a golf cart.
This gluttonous tub of shit looked for the easy way out of dealing with his obeseity and nearly died from his laziness, if he wants sympathy for that he can find it between shit and syphilis in any dictionary in the library. Let's just hope they have an elevator cause Cheesesteak Charlie might die trying to get up the stairs... well ok lets hope they dont have an elevator

Seriously though Lax, a thyroid condition? Failed diets?

The odds of it being an out of control thyroid condition are pretty slim. HUGELY slim, especially for a guy of his monetary means. "Failed diets" means he's falling off the wagon. It means he's dieting, rather than simply making it a habit of eating right and exercising.

Bottom line, his obesity is almost certainly a result of poor lifestyle choices/impulse control. If it's not, has Weis (or anybody in his camp) ever stated that his condition is due to an out of control thyroid condition?

Dudes medical condition is that he is a lazy, cheese eating cock sucker and instead of eating smaller portions of the correct foods and exercising he went the easy way out and had a GBS, probably after the Fen Phen and Liptrovin failed.
So here this fat clump of bile sits in his golf cart, 2 fisting Nathans covered in onions, cheese and peppers and washing it down with a 12er of Cherry Coke while riding behind the players who are running and who he is trying to preach self control to.
On top of that he throws huge tempertantrums on the sideline and questions his kids desire and toughness. The Irish players may have had their teeth kicked in by the Wolverines players but at least theyre tough enough to stand up to a Steak Sandwich and 1/2 lb bag of French Fries.
Next time you question desire or will power Charlie, start questiong that blob looking back at you in the mirror.
He's right, parts of Notre Dame are soft, the softest isnt that spare tire he's carrying around his waist, its the lump of shit living between his ears in the portion of the brain that controls will power.

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[Sky]

I think you are taking this a little too personal. Its like when people call Tressel "Mr. Rogers." I could really give a shit. He gets the job done so he could wear a mohawk for all I care. Lighten up a little.

[Killian]

Mr. Rodgers is a scary fuck!

Sin,
Board Locks

Terry,

Take everything socaltrjn has to say with a grain of salt. He's a typical WWWest poster.

I'm concerned about Weis's health because that is the only thing I see taking him away from Notre Dame. He owes it to himself, his family and to ND to take better care of himself. With the Gug going in, there should be a kitchen and a full time cook on staff to make whatever the coaching staff wants to prevent them from eating out of a greasy bag.

[Terry in Crapchester]

I think you are taking this a little too personal. Its like when people call Tressel "Mr. Rogers." I could really give a shit. He gets the job done so he could wear a mohawk for all I care. Lighten up a little.

Actually, I think I pretty much said the same thing . . .

As long as we're winning, graduating players and obeying the NCAA rules, I personally don't care if he has four heads, with a pair of antennae on each and a single eye in the middle of the forehead of each, and green skin. OTOH, if he's not meeting those requirements, he could look like JON's latest mancrush and that still won't be enough to save him.

I was only responding to Van's comment about joking, when the tone of at least some of those comments seemed to me to go beyond the joking stage.

[Van]

Terry, make no mistake, I don't mean to imply that I was only joking when I said Weis is almost certainly to blame for his condition.

Dead serious, there. I HIGHLY doubt that his obesity is the result of anything that's beyond his control.

Fat chance.

:-)

I'm just saying that nobody really cares that he's morbidly obese and nobody thinks any less of him as a coach because of it. Okay, maybe SoCalTrjn does, but I'm not even sure we're supposed to take his shtick seriously there.

Otherwise, it's all just joking around. Nobody really cares.

[Husker4ever]

Weiss has some serious FUPA going on. He needs to quit wearing his pants like Urkel, too. But seriously, the guy I worry about is Mangino. He probably has diabetes and high blood pressure to boot. The stress of coaching a 1A prorgram has to be wearing on him, too. Helluva nice guy who loves football and cares about his players.

Obesity runs on my Mom's side of the family. I'm fortunate to be built like my dad....pretty lean naturally I have/had 7 uncles on my mom's side. 4 of them have died of obesity-related heart disease in their 50's. I'd hate to see that happen to Mangino or Weiss. Will power and diet may be key, but genetic design and mental issues play major roles. Mangino might food binge everytime KU loses or he reads something derogatory about his weight. Obesity is a multi-faceted disease that is much more complex than will power, diet, and lifestyle choices is what I'm trying to say Active guys in their 20's who talk smack now will probably get a rude awakening around the age of 35.

[Terry in Crapchester]

Obesity is a multi-faceted disease that is much more complex than will power, diet, and lifestyle choices is what I'm trying to say Active guys in their 20's who talk smack now will probably get a rude awakening around the age of 35.

Actually, I've heard that obesity can be triggered even by things such as sleep deprivation. I think we all know that football coaches might be prone to that.

[indyfrisco]

Actually, I've heard that obesity can be triggered even by things such as sleep deprivation.

I wouldn't call eating 4 ribeyes, a box of twinkies and drinking 2 gallons of Coke in the middle of the night sleep deprivation.

[Terry in Crapchester]

Actually, I've heard that obesity can be triggered even by things such as sleep deprivation.

I wouldn't call eating 4 ribeyes, a box of twinkies and drinking 2 gallons of Coke in the middle of the night sleep deprivation.

Maybe not, but . . .

http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/17/World ... _rai.shtml

Sleep deprivation raises obesity risk, study finds
Not getting enough sleep, scientists say, lowers leptin, which suppresses appetite.
By Associated Press
Published November 17, 2004

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LAS VEGAS - Weight-loss experts have a novel prescription for people who want to shed pounds: Get some sleep.

A large study has found a surprisingly strong link between the amount of shut-eye people get and their risk of becoming obese.

Those who got less than four hours of sleep a night were 73 percent more likely to be obese than those who got the recommended seven to nine hours of rest, scientists discovered. Those who averaged five hours of sleep had 50 percent greater risk, and those who got six hours had 23 percent more.

"Maybe there's a window of opportunity for helping people sleep more, and maybe that would help their weight," said Dr. Steven Heymsfield of Columbia University and St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital in New York.

He and James Gangwisch, a Columbia epidemiologist, led the study and are presenting results this week at a meeting of the North American Association for the Study of Obesity.

They used information on about 18,000 adults participating in the federal government's National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey throughout the 1980s. The survey includes long-term followup information on health habits, and researchers adjusted it to take into account other things that affect the odds of obesity, like exercise habits, so the effects of sleep could be isolated.

It seems "somewhat counterintuitive" that sleeping more would prevent obesity because people burn fewer calories when they're resting, Gangwisch said.

But they also eat when they're awake, and the effect of chronic sleep deprivation on the body's food-seeking circuitry is what specialists think might be making the difference in obesity risks.

"There's growing scientific evidence that there's a link between sleep and the various neural pathways that regulate food intake," Heymsfield said.

Sleep deprivation lowers leptin, a blood protein that suppresses appetite and seems to affect how the brain senses when the body has had enough food. Sleep deprivation also raises levels of grehlin, a substance that makes people want to eat.

And it hurts "executive function" - the ability to make clear decisions, said Dr. Philip Eichling, a sleep and weight-loss specialist at the University of Arizona who also is medical director of the Canyon Ranch, a spa in Tucson that offers health and weight management programs, especially for business executives.

"One of my treatments is to tell them they should move from six hours to seven hours of sleep. When they're less sleepy, they're less hungry," he said.

Eichling had no role in the new study, but said it gives important evidence for a long-suspected theory in the field.

Americans average only a little more than six hours of sleep a night, and one report a few years ago even suggested the growing prevalence of sleep deprivation might be responsible for the growing obesity epidemic, he said.

[Van]

It still nearly always comes down to will power and the choices one makes. The % of people who are morbidly obese due to physiological factors beyond their control is just about inconsequential, especially for a guy with Weis' wealth.

[Vito Corleone]

Terry, make no mistake, I don't mean to imply that I was only joking when I said Weis is almost certainly to blame for his condition.

Dead serious, there. I HIGHLY doubt that his obesity is the result of anything that's beyond his control.

Fat chance.

:-)

I'm just saying that nobody really cares that he's morbidly obese and nobody thinks any less of him as a coach because of it. Okay, maybe SoCalTrjn does, but I'm not even sure we're supposed to take his shtick seriously there.

Otherwise, it's all just joking around. Nobody really cares.

Buddy of mine was about 90lbs over weight, diet and exercise did little to drop his weight. He finally went to a doctor to get his stomach stapled, but before he had the surgery he went in and had a allergy test. He found out he was allergic to wheat and dairy. His doctor urged him to go on a GF/CF diet and within a year he lost almost all his weight.

Not saying thsese guys have the same problem, but it is possible.

[Vito Corleone]

It still nearly always comes down to will power and the choices one makes. The % of people who are morbidly obese due to physiological factors beyond their control is just about inconsequential, especially for a guy with Weis' wealth.

Since we are on the subject, I did a google on obesity, here is what I found.

Obesity is the second leading cause of preventable death in the U.S.61
Approximately 127 million adults in the U.S. are overweight, 60 million are obese (Body Mass Index or BMI > 30) and 9 million are extremely obese (Body Mass Index or BMI > 40)62.
Currently, an estimated 65.2 percent of U.S. adults, age 20 years and older, and 15 percent of children and adolescents64 are overweight and 30.5 percent are obese63(childhood or pediatric obesity).
Approximately 62 percent of female Americans are considered overweight65.
Approximately 67 percent of male Americans are considered overweight66.
An estimated 400,000 deaths per year may be attributable to poor diet and low physical activity67
It is estimated that 25-70 percent of the difference in weight between individuals is hereditary or genetic68. However, it is important to remember that genetic predisposition only impacts an individual’s tendency towards obesity.
Researchers at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated that as many as 47 million Americans may exhibit a cluster of medical conditions (a “metabolic syndrome” or “Syndrome X”) characterized by insulin resistance and the presence of obesity, excessive abdominal fat, high blood sugar and triglycerides, high blood pressure (hypertension) and high cholesterol69.


http://www.obesityinamerica.org/bythenumbers.html

[Husker4ever]

Terry, make no mistake, I don't mean to imply that I was only joking when I said Weis is almost certainly to blame for his condition.

Dead serious, there. I HIGHLY doubt that his obesity is the result of anything that's beyond his control.

Fat chance.

:-)

I'm just saying that nobody really cares that he's morbidly obese and nobody thinks any less of him as a coach because of it. Okay, maybe SoCalTrjn does, but I'm not even sure we're supposed to take his shtick seriously there.

Otherwise, it's all just joking around. Nobody really cares.

Buddy of mine was about 90lbs over weight, diet and exercise did little to drop his weight. He finally went to a doctor to get his stomach stapled, but before he had the surgery he went in and had a allergy test. He found out he was allergic to wheat and dairy. His doctor urged him to go on a GF/CF diet and within a year he lost almost all his weight.

Not saying thsese guys have the same problem, but it is possible.

I've heard of stuff like that before. Like how for some people, pasta is like eating straight crisco and butter on their bodies. They just don't process it right.

Here's a couple tips that worked for one of my uncles on my mom's side:

1. When you eat and feel the need for a second portion, wait 13 minutes. You're body's "I feel full" mechanism usually takes that much time to kick in. (that's why we sometimes feel like toads half an hour after eating....thinking we should have stopped eating sooner)

2. Try not to eat after 7 p.m. Your body stores the most fat when you are at rest and has food yet to be digested in the stomach and intestines.

He dropped 80 lbs. in a year and never had to quite eating the foods he liked.

[Terry in Crapchester]

2. Try not to eat after 7 p.m. Your body stores the most fat when you are at rest and has food yet to be digested in the stomach and intestines.

This is the one that gives me a ton of trouble. I often have to go to night court, and even when I don't, I still have about a 1 hr. commute from home to work (that's the part of the year when the weather doesn't impact driving). When I get home before 7 p.m., that's the exception, not the rule.

[Ken]

I honestly don't know why so many people are harping on Weis' appearance. As long as we're winning, graduating players and obeying the NCAA rules, I personally don't care if he has four heads, with a pair of antennae on each and a single eye in the middle of the forehead of each, and green skin. OTOH, if he's not meeting those requirements, he could look like JON's latest mancrush and that still won't be enough to save him.

Terry, just shut up. Try walking something OTHER than the straight and narrow for once. If you haven't noticed, this is a place where we like to make fun of others.

Go ahead... make a disparaging remark about Weis' fat ass. I don't think you can, however. Your tie's too fucking tight.

[Terry in Crapchester]

Go ahead... make a disparaging remark about Weis' fat ass.

I'll do that -- IF you make a disparaging remark about the thickness of JoePa's glasses. Deal?

Although, truth be told, I prolly shouldn't make fun of either of the above -- that whole glass houses thing comes to mind (although I'm not as overweight as Weis, nor are my glasses as thick as JoePa's, but they are bifocals).

[Ken]

Go ahead... make a disparaging remark about Weis' fat ass.

I'll do that -- IF you make a disparaging remark about the thickness of JoePa's glasses. Deal?

Although, truth be told, I prolly shouldn't make fun of either of the above -- that whole glass houses thing comes to mind (although I'm not as overweight as Weis, nor are my glasses as thick as JoePa's, but they are bifocals).

You're talking to precisely the wrong person. Exhibit A:

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[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Did anyone see the Big Fat Fuck Bowl between KU and Toledo this year?

I was thinking Mangino and Amstutz were going to get tired and start coaching from a recliner.

[Ken]

Yeah, I saw that, Mgo. TV was on in the background. I was playing poker w/some buds and one of 'em starts talkin' about how fat Weis is. I said, heh... take a look at the TV. Wies has nothing on Mangino. That dude is a freakin' tub of goo.

So, this one guy we're playing with who I really didn't know well at all says Weis is even more fat. Huh? Take a look at the TV... the one that's got Mangino takin' up all 30" of it over there. Dude still says Weiss was heavier. Whatever... just gimmee more of your cash, thanks.