Oregon @ Cal.

Q, West Coast Style · Post by **Q, West Coast Style** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:45 pm

This is one of the most intriguing matchups of the season so far. Where are Jay and m2?

JayDuck · Post by **JayDuck** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:32 pm

I leave for a weekend and m2 gets banned?

what'd I miss?

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:41 pm

Can we unban him only when CAL loses?

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:47 pm

Cal wins this by 9-14 points.

this will be my big bet of the week. like stealing

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:49 pm

Adel,

I was thinking the same thing, but reversed.

Oregon covers the 5.5

Not totally sold on them winning, but will cover.

JayDuck · Post by **JayDuck** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:13 pm

Actually, based on the weekly prognostication threads on this board, I would really appreciate it if somebody would go ahead and make Cal one of their "lead pipe locks" this week.

quacker backer · Post by **quacker backer** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:15 pm

m2 is gone??!!

holy dayum!!

Ducks will not only cover but will win

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:19 pm

I believe the banning is only temporary.

The mods will have to confirm/deny this though.

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:24 pm

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Can we unban him only when CAL loses?

I second that suggestion....

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:28 pm

Can someone banned win the boardbitch title?

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:29 pm

JayDuck wrote:Actually, based on the weekly prognostication threads on this board, I would really appreciate it if somebody would go ahead and make Cal one of their "lead pipe locks" this week.

wind chime lock of the week.

Take cal- the pts.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:00 am

Oregon = better offense

Oregon = better defense

Cal = ....home field advantage.

I'll take the better team...especially with points.

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:11 am

Winchime lock of the week,bitches

cal-5(+3 vs. undead)

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:21 pm

Yes, but who will have more rushing yards? Lynch or Stewart?

L45B · Post by **L45B** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:37 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:Yes, but who will have more rushing yards? Lynch or Stewart?

Even if Kal loses, I'm sure Lynch's YPC & Yards Per Game will still be higher, which will automatically make him the best running back in the country.

Q, West Coast Style · Post by **Q, West Coast Style** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:54 am

I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Dennis Dixon joining Troy Smith, AP, and that Wolfe guy in sitting through an akward, drawn-out interview on ESPN this December in New York. If he does well this weekend and the Ducks win, his name will start being splashed around that discussion.

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:01 am

Dinsdale wrote:Oregon = better offense

Oregon = better defense

Cal = ....home field advantage.

I'll take the better team...especially with points.

buwahahahahahaha

glad your not giving out locks of the week

they assraped oregon

fucking idiots

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:05 am

Adelpiero wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:Oregon = better offense

Oregon = better defense

Cal = ....home field advantage.

I'll take the better team...especially with points.
buwahahahahahaha

glad your not giving out locks of the week

they assraped oregon

fucking idiots

Alright, who gave Adel's password to M2?

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:14 am

RadioFan wrote:
Adelpiero wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:Oregon = better offense

Oregon = better defense

Cal = ....home field advantage.

I'll take the better team...especially with points.
buwahahahahahaha

glad your not giving out locks of the week

they assraped oregon

fucking idiots
Alright, who gave Adel's password to M2?

a windchime lock of the week, is a lock of the week.

cal is very good at home, only loss, is to a very good tenn(so it looks) team.

i could care less about the teams, but this one was a easy game. rack the sucker oergon fans who moved the line from 6 to 4 1/2. then some sanity came in, and moved it back to 5 1/2

and mtool is still a fucking tard.

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:15 am

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:18 am

Adelpiero wrote:Cal wins this by 9-14 points.

this will be my big bet of the week. like stealing

damn right bitches

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:20 am

Adelpiero wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:Oregon = better offense

Oregon = better defense

Cal = ....home field advantage.

I'll take the better team...especially with points.
buwahahahahahaha

glad your not giving out locks of the week

Uhhh...

Dins wrote:(Oregon, plus the points?) Stone cold, lead pipe, Fort Knox action, right there.

quacker backer · Post by **quacker backer** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:31 am

we got our asses handed to us on this day
(at least the Yankees lost as well)

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:31 am

Adelpiero wrote:

My bad, sort of.

You can get rid of that sig now, m2. It ended on the 1st.

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:33 am

quacker backer wrote:we got our asses handed to us on this day
(at least the Yankees lost as well)

Don't tell Dins.

'swhat i'm sayin'

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:09 am

Tool must be going insane, I miss the little bitch stirring things up already. If USC had to play at Cal they'd probably be toast. But the Berkeley-boys still have to prove they can beat a quality opponent on the road.

Cal is looking like the preseason-hyped team that was supposed to have a shot at running-the-board.

JayDuck · Post by **JayDuck** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:44 pm

Cal is playing great, right now.

Didn't help things that nobody, for us, showed up to play. Including the coaches.

USC is just barely hanging on to wins against the middle of the conference. If they don't improve they are going to lose a couple games and, right now, Cal looks like our best team.

Would have been nice if they didn't gag at Tennessee to make us all look weak, because of that. If you are going to blow it in such disgracing fasion in the opener, at least have the decency to suck for the rest of the year.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:02 pm

Wow, Adel, four posts to hype up your pick?

You act as if you never got one right before.

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:29 pm

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Wow, Adel, four posts to hype up your pick?

You act as if you never got one right before.

this is a special pick

always nice to rub salt into the wounds of losing fans.

m2ool must be pissed he cant pound this forum with cal jibberish.

and when you throw a lead pipe lock up, and it gets shot down, nothing like pounding the ole chest, my 46 bets a saturday arent going well, so gotta tout the easy winners.

this was like stealing from a blind man.

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:31 pm

Thing is, and anybody should've seen this...Cal-Oregon was in no way a lead pipe lock.

And even if it was, it was Cal who was the lead pipe, take-it-to-the-bank lock there, not Oregon.

There should've just been no way for an objective person to look at that game and see it as a gimme pick for Oregon. I just don't know how Dins, Mgo and Jay (three people who well know the game) managed to talk themselves into that one. I can see where maybe someone might've picked Oregon as part of a ten game football card, if they were forced to pick that game, but overall that was a game that if possible needed to be avoided.

Too many points were sure to be scored there, and Cal was coming in hot and they were playing at home. When Cal wins, they usually win big. On top of all this, Cal was initially favored by, what, 7?? In this one Vegas obviously thought more of Cal than of Oregon, and then the spread went down to 5.5, making Oregon an even less attractice play.

All in all, this is not the recipe for a lock pick for the visiting dog.

No way anybody should've made Oregon their lock pick. There were plenty of other picks out there that were much more compelling.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:43 pm

If you look at recent history between these two teams head-to-head, there was no reason to think Oregon couldn't cover.

No reason at all.

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:55 pm

There was plenty of reason, some of which I just delineated.

5.5 points is nothing in a a typical high octane offensive showing at home by Cal. Cal hasn't been squeaking by in their wins, they've been winning by four TDs. There was every possibility that Oregon's D wasn't going to be able to slow down Cal's offense in Berkeley. They couldn't slow down OU's tepid offense and that was in Autzen.

Yeah, there was ample reason to believe Oregon would also score a lot but in a probable over-under total approaching 70 a mere 5.5 points can get swallowed up very easily.

Like I said, yeah, I could see where somebody could've talked themselves into taking Oregon and the points. To call suck a pick a lock though was absolutely ridiculous. Nearly every tout out there landed on Cal minus the points. Oregon plus the points was at best a coin flip pick, not a lock.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:02 pm

Van wrote:Cal hasn't been squeaking by in their wins, they've been winning by four TDs.

All against teams they SHOULD be beating by four TDs. The only exception being maybe ASU, but Oregon actually beat ASU by a larger margin than CAL did. And Oregon did it on the road, while Cal did it at home. So if you used that game as the determinant, Oregon certainly had the edge in this one.

That 10-2 Cal team wouldn't have covered this spread two years ago at home when they squeaked by a sub .500 Oregon team by one point.

Again, I had every reason to believe Oregon could cover.

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:44 pm

To the point of calling it a lead pipe lock though?

Hell no. You (usually) know better than that.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:00 pm

Well, as we delve more into conference play, a "lead pipe" lock mean something different than what it did a few weeks before when top ranked teams were playing the New Mexico St and La Monroe's of the world.

I know CAL is a good team at home, but the 5.5 seemed a bit much to me, considering the history between these two teams.

You're gonna get some locks right, you're gonna get some wrong. Of all the shots I've called on this board this season, I've done quite well, I think.

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:04 pm

Exactly, Mgo, you have, which is why I was so surprised to see you, Dins and Jay calling this one an Oregon lock.

There were some locks out there yesterday, definitely. This one just wasn't one of 'em, at least not unless you had Cal, and even then, no, it wasn't a lock.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:09 pm

To my...discredit...I haven't seen either team play much this season.

Cal-Tennessee
Oregon-OU

That's about it.

I based this pick mostly on past trends, and current schedule results. I realized Cal had been beating people by wider margins, but I definitely thought Oregon was going to be more battle-tested.

I'm putting some of the blame on Dins, too.

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:17 am

As well you should.

:-)

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:10 pm

I wasn't anticipating Oregon taking the field with laying an egg in mind. Duck fan was kind of living in dreamland -- after taking huge hits due to graduation/NFL, this was supposed to be a rebuilding year, which grew to overachieving status. But, the Ducks have lost about 2 key starters per game, every game this season. You can't take those kinds of losses without paying for it eventually.

But, for those who didn't see the game, there was the part where Cal played extremely well. Wasn't the same Cal team I've seen in other games this year. If they can keep this up, and actually do something on the road for a change, this is one scary team.

So, to sum up the weekend --

University of Oregon Football...DONE

Yankees...DONE

49ers...lost the play-in game to the Adrian Peterson Bowl...DONE

Trailblazers...training camp started, and with the "new" version of this team, the minute they take to the hardwood, it's "season over"...DONE

Yeah, the Sporting World pretty much made Dins its bitch this weekend.

RACK the Cal Bears for playing a fine game.

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:37 pm

Dinsdale wrote:I wasn't anticipating Oregon taking the field with laying an egg in mind. Duck fan was kind of living in dreamland -- after taking huge hits due to graduation/NFL, this was supposed to be a rebuilding year, which grew to overachieving status. But, the Ducks have lost about 2 key starters per game, every game this season. You can't take those kinds of losses without paying for it eventually.

Cry me a river.

-Pete Carroll

But, for those who didn't see the game, there was the part where Cal played extremely well. Wasn't the same Cal team I've seen in other games this year.

It's the same Cal team who showed up every game this season...besides the first game. Post Tennessee, Cal's been killing everybody.

If they can keep this up, and actually do something on the road for a change, this is one scary team.

Yup. Just wish they'd taken care of business in Neyland. I just don't know if Cal has the 'nad to show big on the road in a big game.

So, to sum up the weekend --

University of Oregon Football...DONE

Nah. You have a very good team and your program is healthier now than it's been in your entire lifetime. This is the Golfen Era of Oregon football. You're now a for real program, one that can be counted on to approach 10 wins just about every season in the near future.

Take it from a USC Fan...Oregon is a team that will do the Pac 10 proud. They're not all the way there yet but they're coming, hard.

Yankees...DONE

That fucking sucked.

Torre ain't the problem. Even the Cowardly Lion, A-Rod, ain't the problem.

Having Jaret Wright pitching a deciding game is the problem. Mike Mussina always flaming out in the playoffs is the problem. Carl Pavano's contract is the problem. Middle relief is the problem.

Pitching is the problem, period. The Yankees will likely pick up Barry Zito and maybe Jason Schmidt too, and will anybody be surprised if both guys flame out under the bright lights of NYC?

49ers...lost the play-in game to the Adrian Peterson Bowl...DONE

Do you really see Peterson as being a huge impact back in the NFL? I'll need to see it first. He's just not that fast or shifty and he's not an Earl Campbell type power back either. I suspect he's a talented back who benefits from playing in the Big XII, behind a mostly dominant line. I don't know that his talent will translate all that well in the NFL. Not too sure we'll ever see Peterson on any All Pro teams, which is what needs to happen if you're the Lottery Derby pick of a draft.

You're not doing too poorly with Frank Gore back there, actually. The Niners are now on the right track under Nolan, definitely, although as long as the Yorks own 'em don't plan on gaining that sixth ring any time soon.

Trailblazers...training camp started, and with the "new" version of this team, the minute they take to the hardwood, it's "season over"...DONE

Train wreck.

Yeah, the Sporting World pretty much made Dins its bitch this weekend.

So did I!

-Hep C

RACK the Cal Bears for playing a fine game.

Very good team. They just better do the Pac 10 proud this time in their bowl game. If they choke on that one again, especially after the Tennessee debacle, I just won't wanna hear about Cal ever again.