Round 1 Thursday Thread

Shine · Post by **Shine** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:41 pm

I'm loving that all the "experts" are giving IU no shot in hell of beating Gonzaga.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:07 am

well, they have no shot in hell of scoring more than 50 points, so there you have it.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:09 am

i don't get that either. this is not a "vintage" Zags team....and, sure, i know it well, Kelvin has had some trouble in the first round.....but that is IMO a function of the tourny getting called pretty tight and KS' teams play pretty physical more than anything. hard to win, when the Indy State's or Manhattan's of the world are in the double bonus the last 10 minutes of the second half.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:34 am

I'm taking the Zags in part due to the fact they were able to beat some heavy hitters in Texas and UNC on neutral courts.

I wouldn't take it personally though. Taking Gonzaga over anybody in the first round is the most popular decision to make come bracket time. They could be paired up against the 92 Dream Team and people would still take the Zags.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:57 am

Alright bitches, it's the eve of tourney time and this place is nuthin' but crickets.

*I love the fact the IU/Gonzaga game is the last of tomorrow's lineup. Should be able to see the game in its entirety here.

Other games I'm looking forward to are ODU/Butler as I took ODU, MSU v Marquette (for obvious reasons) and, VCU/Duke (seems like I'm one of the few that doesn't think Duke will get upset). I'm also interested to see how A&M/Acie Law come out and look in their first game since I have them winning it all.

*Anyone see Roy Williams crying to the press about having to play a 10 o'clock game? Christ man, get the sand out of your vagina and get ready for the fucking game. What kind of example does that set for your team when you're bitching about stupid shit like that? You've had plenty of time to rest, just show up, ball, and shut the fuck up.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:47 am

well, it's UNC's divine right to play on a neutral floor in Charlotte or Greensboro. who can blame Roy for crying?

Shine · Post by **Shine** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:17 am

Screw_Michigan wrote:well, they have no shot in hell of scoring more than 50 points, so there you have it.

Yeah, what with IU leading the Big 10 in scoring this year and all.

Shine · Post by **Shine** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:23 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Alright bitches, it's the eve of tourney time and this place is nuthin' but crickets.

*I love the fact the IU/Gonzaga game is the last of tomorrow's lineup. Should be able to see the game in its entirety here.

Other games I'm looking forward to are ODU/Butler as I took ODU, MSU v Marquette (for obvious reasons) and, VCU/Duke (seems like I'm one of the few that doesn't think Duke will get upset). I'm also interested to see how A&M/Acie Law come out and look in their first game since I have them winning it all.

*Anyone see Roy Williams crying to the press about having to play a 10 o'clock game? Christ man, get the sand out of your vagina and get ready for the fucking game. What kind of example does that set for your team when you're bitching about stupid shit like that? You've had plenty of time to rest, just show up, ball, and shut the fuck up.

I too think Dook will win, not only on Thursday but on Saturday as well against an extremely overrated Pitt squad thus keeping their Sweet 16 streak alive.

I think the MSU/MARQ game will be quality entertainment, but I do wish McNeal were healthy so we could see both squads at their best. Of course I'll be pulling for MSU to rep the Big 10.

FWIW on the late games thing. Bob Knight bitched about this years ago and ever since, even with him in the boonies of West Texas, IU always (barring a Davis "led" team missing the tourney of course) seems to end up with the late game. And look who's the late game on Thursday, IU a-fucking-gain.

Other Thursday game I'm interested in is the WSU/ORU game as I think ORU could make a run to the 16 as a 14 seed.

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:51 am

my bets for today so fAr

butler
marquette
tex tech
byu
stanford
penn
gonzaga

Terry in Crapchester · Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:54 am

I think Gonzaga was overseeded as a 10. I would have put them in as a 12.

I like Indiana to win this one.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:18 pm

IU/Zaga was a difficlut game to pick. I picked Zaga b/c I think the game will come down to coaching and I think Few has the advantage.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:29 pm

I got the Zags in my bracket but that's mostly just for the big "Fuck You" to all the IU guys at work. Can't pick the higher seeds all the way down the bracket, and this is one that I think is a better possibility than most to be an upset. I also have Old Dominion knocking off Butler.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:32 pm

Shine wrote:I too think Dook will win, not only on Thursday but on Saturday as well against an extremely overrated Pitt squad thus keeping their Sweet 16 streak alive.

I have Duke winning 2 games as well and falling to UCLA.

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:42 pm

Indianana over 'Zaga
Dookies over Pitt in Round Two

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:48 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:
Shine wrote:I too think Dook will win, not only on Thursday but on Saturday as well against an extremely overrated Pitt squad thus keeping their Sweet 16 streak alive.
I have Duke winning 2 games as well and falling to UCLA.

SAME HERE

Terry in Crapchester · Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:08 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:I also have Old Dominion knocking off Butler.

Same here, that's my 12 pick for this year.

Butler stumbled a bit down the stretch, and the 5 seed is a bit high imho. You could say the same thing about USC, but Arkansas is in the "lucky just to be there" category much moreso than Old Dominion.

DallasFanatic · Post by **DallasFanatic** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:01 pm

This may be glass dick, but does anyone know of a website where you can watch the games today?

Mr T · Post by **Mr T** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:33 pm

CBS is showing it.

So go to cbssportsline.com and find out how to watch it online

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:09 pm

Stanford is getting their shit kicked by Louisville.

41-13 w/ 4:30 in the 1st Half.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:16 pm

Cicero wrote:Stanford is getting their shit kicked by Louisville.

41-13 w/ 4:30 in the 1st Half.

yeah, no doubt. Louisville closed out the Big East a pretty hot team. playing in Lexington is basically home game for the 'ville.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:04 pm

^^^ Exactly why I'm so vervous about a possible Round 2 matchup. ^^^^

Go 'furd!

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:14 pm

yeah, but if you guys get through it you've got the rounds of 16 and 8 in San Antonio.

my annual rant against the pod system is in some other thread (Maybe the UT-ATM OT game thread)....but it's kind of a joke.

in a month, after the tourny is over and the Masters ends....i'll find myself doing my other annual rant: Jim Nantz, the Shakespeare of sport.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:16 pm

Yes, which is why I feel better about the possible A&M/OSU game. That's a loooooong ways away though.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:21 pm

Awesome.

tceh lost.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:26 pm

they didn't belong. they had some bad losses....Jackson is a player and has been great all 9 years he's been at Tech.

personally, i think the Big XII deserved 3 bids. though, since Stanford is getting ass-waxed i bet the KSU fans are grinding their teeth. hey, play a SOS out of conference.

i tell you, that's one thing Kelvin Sampson always did well at OU....was schedule a OOC that was geared toward the rpi. and once the conference season kicked in, OU's rpi was always money.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:29 pm

does Pitino use black shoe polish in his hair these days? he was going grey a couple years ago.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:44 pm

King Crimson wrote:i tell you, that's one thing Kelvin Sampson always did well at OU....was schedule a OOC that was geared toward the rpi. and once the conference season kicked in, OU's rpi was always money.

ANd he's carried that tradition on to IU. Of course, I think most of thier schedule, if not all of it, was in place before he got there. Schedule tough teams (beat none of them) but have the strong SOS for OOC and get in the tourney

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:46 pm

Well, so far so good with BC, Louisville, and Maryland all winning. I figured Davidson would give MD a good scare, but that the Terps would pull it out in the end, which is fortunately what came to be. You hate to lose a Sweet 16 team early on day one...now I'm sure Wash St will have me sweating it out.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:48 pm

Stanford was able to make a comeback and only lose by 20. Nice job.

3-0, so far. Not really tough ones to pick though.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:52 pm

I picked tceh to win as a minor upset, but Knight came through in the clutch to keep with his tourney success, or lack thereof, over the past 15 years.

Shine · Post by **Shine** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:18 pm

King Crimson wrote:they didn't belong.

I disagree. I think the 3 wins they have against Kansas and ATM, incluing at ATM, are as impressive of a group of 3 wins as any team in the country. They were exactly where they should have been, in the tourney but as a 10 seed meaning one of the final at-large teams to get in.

IF- Why all the Knight hate?? Is it simply because he's at Texas Tech or is there more to it?? Not that you're the only one on here, or in general (no pun intended), that hates RMK but I don't know your VHI Behind the Hate story.

Terry in Crapchester · Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:26 pm

Still early, but Oral Roberts leads Washington State at the half.

That would be a shocker to me if it holds. I had Washington State into the Sweet 16 -- not because I'm particularly enamored of them, but I thought they got a pretty favorable draw.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:28 pm

Shine,

We've been down this road before. I've explained it all before. I've never liked Knight. He's a bully and an asshole. He takes a tone with people asking him honest questions who are just doing their jobs like they just raped his daughter, wife and mother in the same day. He can fucking hang for all I care.

Going to tceh was the "just when I thought I couldn't stand the guy any more, he goes to tceh" icing on the cake.

Shine · Post by **Shine** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:39 pm

Gotcha, didn't remember going down that road before.

WSU off to a hot start in the 2nd half. Hope ORU comes back as I had them as my sleeper team in one of the pools I'm in.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:46 pm

Butler/Old Dominion

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

OD 20-19 at the Half

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:58 pm

Shine wrote:
King Crimson wrote:they didn't belong.
I disagree. I think the 3 wins they have against Kansas and ATM, incluing at ATM, are as impressive of a group of 3 wins as any team in the country. They were exactly where they should have been, in the tourney but as a 10 seed meaning one of the final at-large teams to get in.
.

they have at least one bad loss for each good win. they played a good stretch in January....and were marginal down the stretch and got waxed by KSU in the conference tournament. i don't think KSU should have been in, but Tech sure as heck didn't belong in over them. if anyone other than Knight coached TT, they would be a middle seed in the NIT.

Shine · Post by **Shine** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:17 pm

I won't argue long over things that are already in the rearview mirror but a couple quick things. First is how everyone wants to talk about how KSU beat TT in the B12T but overlook that TT beat KSU on their homecourt. Second is that TT was 7-9 versus the RPI top 100 (using Pomeroy). Other teams with much better seeds that nobody argued about include:

8-6, Texas A&M 3 seed
9-11, Michigan St 9 seed
8-9, Texas 4 seed
7-10, IU 7 seed
7-9, Louisville 6 seed

Simply put, TT won enough games against top competition to be among the top 34 at-large teams and were seeded correctly near the bottom of that group.

Looks like ORU is playing like well uh, ORU.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:27 pm

Wash St ended up winning by 16.

Butler figured out how to score and now is 38-32 halfway thru the 2nd Half.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:29 pm

Looks like A&M is taking a shit.

14/32 from the field for 43% against a shitty team.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:30 pm

Oh well, might as well lay an egg in this one. I can't see the game, but I wonder how many Louisville fans stuck around for the second game to cheer on Penn.