Kansas loses 2 scholarships

[SoCalTrjn]

due to APR
UAB loses 9, im sure they will still get 4 OOC games at SEC stadiums though

[peter dragon]

Yes I realize its basketball but those in glass houses...

i wonder if will ever get old listening to you talk about ooc games?

[Laxplayer]

Please don't let facts get in the way of condom boy and his argument.

[Adelpiero]

Tenn had/has a series with UAB, the blazers almost beat them 2 times in recent years.

[MuchoBulls]

due to APR
UAB loses 9, im sure they will still get 4 OOC games at SEC stadiums though

Not that it's important, but I can't recall UAB playing many SEC teams ever.

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Well, 'Bama or Auburn wouldn't play them to begin with and I doubt many team would after what they did to LSU a number of years ago.

[SunCoastSooner]

due to APR
UAB loses 9, im sure they will still get 4 OOC games at SEC stadiums though

Not that it's important, but I can't recall UAB playing many SEC teams ever.

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Well, 'Bama or Auburn wouldn't play them to begin with and I doubt many team would after what they did to LSU a number of years ago.

Played Oklahoma very tight a couple of years ago in Norman as well. UAB is a scary team early in the season for the big boys. They don't let many get out of hand and they are traditionally well coached.

[Adelpiero]

UAb was a very good defensive team.

i believe they almost beat FSU as well. Like Troy, you don't want to go there for an away game on ESPN. Danger! You have everything to lose, and nothing to gain!

[Mr T]

Troy and UAB are avoided by Auburn and Bama. Just as USF is avoided by the Big 3 in florida. A win does nothing, a loss hurts in-state recruiting.

Those teams can plays some football and live for the big games.

[MuchoBulls]

Just as USF is avoided by the Big 3 in florida. A win does nothing, a loss hurts in-state recruiting.

We've played Miami once and play them for 5 years straight (3 games @ home) beginning in 2009. We also have UF on the schedule 2 times in Gainesville, but the dates have been moved so much that I doubt one, or both, get played.

[SunCoastSooner]

Troy and UAB are avoided by Auburn and Bama. Just as USF is avoided by the Big 3 in florida. A win does nothing, a loss hurts in-state recruiting.

Those teams can plays some football and live for the big games.

USF is making in roads in the state without them playing them.

[SoCalTrjn]

who gives a rat fuck about basketball, I wish USC would get rid of that sport and start a varsity hockey program. Galen would make a nice rink.

[Laxplayer]

Maybe you asshats should also get rid of baseball because they absolutely suck right now. In fact my sons baseball coach has scheduled a trip to a game on the 17th because Krueters kid played on the same travel team as his son. I told my kid that he's not going because if he's going to see a baseball game he's going to see a real team. Oh wait, they're playing Oregon State....maybe I'll let him go and he'll wear his brand new Oregon State hat so when their team runs out on the field with the $C players he'll at least be sporting a hat from a winner.

[Danimal]

Hope USF buttfucks Miami in their goldtoophed mouth.

[SoCalTrjn]

as bad as USCs baseball team has been under kreuter, theyd still kick fuck Notre Dame like an alter boy.

Both my sons are playing for the Juice now, thats why we have missed a couple pony games

[Terry in Crapchester]

who gives a rat fuck about basketball, I wish USC would get rid of that sport and start a varsity hockey program. Galen would make a nice rink.

That's part of the beauty of being an independent -- you don't have a conference telling your athletic department what it can and cannot do. Even if USC wanted to drop its basketball team (it very obviously does not), the Pac-10 would never allow that to happen.

as bad as USCs baseball team has been under kreuter, theyd still kick fuck Notre Dame like an alter boy.

Not as true as that used to be, although I really couldn't care less about college baseball. I'll root for ND -- if it's brought to my attention that they're playing, that is -- but the outcome of a game doesn't affect my mood one way or the other. I can't say the same about football or basketball.

As to the original topic of the thread, not to toot my own horn, but . . .

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Irish Athletic Programs Again Lead The Way In NCAA's Four-Year APR Numbers
All 26 programs at Notre Dame again exceed Academic Progress Rate formula.


May 6, 2008

NOTRE DAME, Ind. - All 26 athletics programs at the University of Notre Dame again exceeded the NCAA's Academic Progress Rate standards -- and the Irish had as many teams (eight) earn perfect 1,000 scores as any other Football Bowl Subdivision program, in the fourth annual set of APR statistics issued today by the NCAA.

The 2008 report released by the NCAA features a four-year compilation of APR data from the 2003-04, 2004-05, 2005-06 and 2006-07 academic years. The APR uses a series of formulas related to student-athlete retention and eligibility to measure the academic performances of all participants who receive grants-in-aid on every team at every NCAA Division I college and university.

Irish men's programs registered perfect 1,000 scores in cross country, fencing, golf, indoor track and outdoor track -- while women's programs scored 1,000 in fencing, soccer and tennis. Near-perfect scores came in women's lacrosse (998), women's rowing (998), softball (996), women's volleyball (995), men's ice hockey (994), men's lacrosse (994), men's swimming (994), men's tennis (994), women's golf (992), women's swimming (990) and women's cross country (990).

Among Notre Dame's most significant peer group (formerly the NCAA Division I-A football-playing schools), no other institution had more programs post perfect 1,000 scores than Notre Dame's eight. Duke also had eight, followed by Boston College (seven), Stanford (five), and the U.S. Naval Academy, Rice and Northwestern (four each).

"These numbers compare favorably with the other NCAA graduation data at our disposal relative to our institution, and -- once again -- they display that our student-athletes are achieving at an extremely high level," said Notre Dame athletics director Kevin White.

In the Football Bowl Subdivision, institutions with the top figures in football included Stanford (986), the U.S. Naval Academy (979), Duke and Rutgers (977 each), the U.S. Air Force Academy (976), Rice (975), Boston College (972), along with Notre Dame, Northwestern and Miami, Fla. (all at 969).

Today's release follows up on the announcement last month by the NCAA that 712 teams posted multi-year APR scores in the top 10 percent of all squads in their respective sports. The public recognition awards were part of the broad Division I academic reform effort.

Notre Dame had 11 of its programs honored for that multi-year achievement -- men's cross country, men's fencing, men's golf, men's swimming, men's indoor track and field, men's outdoor track and field, women's fencing, women's soccer, women's softball, women's tennis and women's volleyball.

Among Football Bowl Subdivision institutions, the only schools that had more programs honored than the 11 by Notre Dame were the U.S. Naval Academy and Duke (12 each). Boston College and Stanford each had 10 programs honored, while Northwestern and North Carolina had eight each.

Nationally, the multi-year APR data - with four years of data collection available for the first time - show upward trends in several categories, especially from 2005-06 to 2006-07. The overall APR rose slightly, with increases in both eligibility and retention and a decrease in the number of student-athletes leaving school while academically ineligible.

The academic reform effort -- and the Academic Performance Program in particular -- was created to change the academic landscape of Division I athletics and not to be punitive. However, penalties are assessed for failing to meet the benchmark that projects to approximately 60 percent Graduation Success Rate and being unable to demonstrate measurable improvement in the APR.

Fewer teams received penalties than anticipated, with 218 teams from 123 institutions falling below established benchmarks. Of the 218 teams, 113 receive immediate penalties, while 35 receive both an immediate penalty and a public warning for historically low performance. An additional 44 teams receive the public warning only, while 26 will face a historically based penalty restricting scholarships, recruiting and practice times.

Of the 218 penalized teams, six received conditional waivers from penalties last year, failed to meet the conditions and are penalized this year. Four of those six teams are receiving penalties for last year and this year.

At one time, officials believed a much larger number of teams could be penalized this year because of the elimination of the squad size adjustment for most teams. The adjustment was in place until teams accumulated a full four years of APR data. Because of numerous factors, including mitigating circumstances and an emphasis on improvement in the waiver process, only about 3.5 percent of 6,272 teams received penalties. Last year, about two percent of teams were penalized.

NCAA president Myles Brand emphasized that the penalties were designed to change behavior and not intended to be punitive.

"We want to change the behaviors of the teams and the institutions and the athletic program so we're all headed toward the success of student-athletes on the field and in the classroom," Brand said.

Overall, the Division I single-year APR has risen nearly four points since data collection began. Several sports have seen increases as well. Since 2003-04, for example, baseball's APR increased 12 points and football went up nearly 11 points.

Men's basketball, though, has remained steady over the four year period at approximately 928 APR. After a recent drop in the sport's APR, men's basketball teams rebounded, improving by about four points from the 2005-06 data collection year. An NCAA panel has been assigned to address academic issues in men's basketball and is expected to complete its work by October.

"Overall, there is much to be encouraged about with the latest data," Brand said. "When we started four years ago, baseball and football were in serious trouble. There has been great improvement in both of those sports. We are not out of the woods, however. There are individual institutions that have seen steady decline in APR over the last four years. The situation is dire for them."

For the first time, the average eligibility and retention rates both showed increases as well. Eligibility rates, after decreasing for the past two years since the implementation of new progress-toward-degree standards, saw the first increase since data collection began in 2003-04. The average eligibility rate for 2006-07 is 967.1, up from 965.0 in 2003-04. The average retention rate has increased steadily over the first four years of data collection, beginning at 953.6 in 2003-04 and showing a 956.7 in the most recent collection year.

Officials attributed the improvement in APR and reduction in penalized teams to a number of factors, including the improvement plan process, which requires any institution with a team below 925 to develop a plan for improving the academic performance of student-athletes with specific goals and steps to meet them. In the first year for the improvement plan process, 157 schools submitted acceptable plans to the national office.

Institutions that do not meet the goals set forth in their improvement plans will be subject to penalties next year.

Additionally, since the reform structure was implemented four years ago, more than 4,000 student-athletes have earned a graduation bonus point for their institution by returning to their school to graduate after leaving early. While not all returned because of the bonus-point incentive, almost twice as many former student-athletes came back to earn their degree in the most recent year than in the first year of the APR program. This is another intended outcome of academic reform.

Mitigating factors, such as granting relief for teams that demonstrate measurable improvement and other criteria, also helped APRs to rise and penalties to fall.

[SunCoastSooner]

I hate having to defend USC in a thread toeJam is in but they lost schollies in basketball be cause of transfers and players leaving early for the NBA which is absolutly asinine in my book. All of the kids except one were well on their way to receiving degrees and a couple of them had GPAs well above 3.0.

[Goober McTuber]

Both my sons are playing on the Juice now

Shocker.

[indyfrisco]

Shocker.

I'm pretty sure he's a fan of those, too.

[SoCalTrjn]

OC Juice is a travel baseball team, they, along with the Houston Banditos, are the premier travel baseball programs in the nation.

I dont want to hear any more shit regarding waterpolo or volleyball if youre going to count cross country and fencing as sports.

too bad USC couldnt have lost all their basketball scholarships and then they could just throw some intramural frat team out there to play int he gym and they can make Galen Center in to a hockey rink

[Screw_Michigan]

i think it would be pretty sweet if usc took the lead and started a d-1 college hockey program. they could join the wcha and win it in two years, easily. more kids than ever are coming out of southern california now and the school has the money to pull it off. i say more to them. and for the love of god, where would you rather play your four years of collegiate hockey: a cold shithole like madison or under the beautiful, sunny skies in los angeles?

i think the choice is clear.

[Terry in Crapchester]

I dont want to hear any more shit regarding waterpolo or volleyball if youre going to count cross country and fencing as sports.

It's not my criteria that's in use, it's the NCAA's criteria. I've said repeatedly that I really couldn't care less about any college sports other than football and basketball.

Btw, if we're using your criteria (i.e., bone-crunching contact on every play), the only sports that count are football, hockey, lacrosse and wrestling. Baseball doesn't count under your criteria.

too bad USC couldnt have lost all their basketball scholarships and then they could just throw some intramural frat team out there to play int he gym and they can make Galen Center in to a hockey rink

If this had been anyone else, I'd congratulate them on the troll job. Thing is, you meant it, no doubt.

[Goober McTuber]

a cold shithole like madison

Madison is now a shithole, Screwball? You mean the Madison that is consistently rated by various groups/magazines as one of the top 10 places to live? The upside here is that when you were looking for a premier college hockey program to contrast with the theoretical USC program, the UW immediately came to mind. Thanks.

[Laxplayer]

OC Juice is a travel baseball team, they, along with the Houston Banditos, are the premier travel baseball programs in the nation.
I dont want to hear any more shit regarding waterpolo or volleyball if youre going to count cross country and fencing as sports.

Are you related to Marv Marinovich?

[Screw_Michigan]

premier college hockey program to contrast with the theoretical USC program, the UW immediately came to mind. Thanks.

[Goober McTuber]

premier college hockey program to contrast with the theoretical USC program, the UW immediately came to mind. Thanks.

Wisconsin has six national championships, Screwball. Fourth best all-time. Yes, premier college hockey program sounds about right.

[Screw_Michigan]

one title in the last 17 years. at that pace, northern michigan is a "premier team" as well. same with michigan tech, jesus they won 10 titles 40 years ago.

go fuck yourself.

[Goober McTuber]

Oh, one title in the last 17 years, but two in the last 19. Gee, you could have said one title in the last 18 years, you disingenuous fucking tard, but your math skills let you down. Michigan Tech has three in their entire history, Northern Michigan has one. Have another tab of Extasy, douchenozzle.

[King Crimson]

and for the love of god, where would you rather play your four years of collegiate hockey

U Denver or Colorado College. Sunny, great outdoor life, very good (DU) to excellent (CC) academics and very good hockey. YWIA.

[Screw_Michigan]

Oh, one title in the last 17 years, but two in the last 19. Gee, you could have said one title in the last 18 years, you disingenuous fucking tard, but your math skills let you down. Michigan Tech has three in their entire history, Northern Michigan has one. Have another tab of Extasy, douchenozzle.

you are one grade-a, shit-eating tard. my point is that the "premier" teams in the nation are a handful: bc, mich, north dakota, minnesota, denver. notice how wisconsin is NOT on that list. and i am well aware of how many national titles tech has won.

anything else i need to educate you on? stick to your pissing matches with sfaf, you're much closer to his level.

[Goober McTuber]

Oh, one title in the last 17 years, but two in the last 19. Gee, you could have said one title in the last 18 years, you disingenuous fucking tard, but your math skills let you down. Michigan Tech has three in their entire history, Northern Michigan has one. Have another tab of Extasy, douchenozzle.

you are one grade-a, shit-eating tard. my point is that the "premier" teams in the nation are a handful: bc, mich, north dakota, minnesota, denver. notice how wisconsin is NOT on that list. and i am well aware of how many national titles tech has won.

You really are a fucking idiot, Screwball. Yes I noticed how Wisconsin is not on your list. You want to know what Wisconsin has in common with every other team on your list? They have all won exactly two national titles in the last 20 years. Dumbfuck.

[Screw_Michigan]

i stand corrected. but i still maintain that wisconsin is not a top 5 program.

[Goober McTuber]

Maybe not this year, but in the overall context of college hockey UW belongs in the top 5, more so than Boston College does. BC is just the best program in the east in recent history, but in terms of the NCAA tournament, Boston U probably has a better overall history. Jerry York is an outstanding coach, and in his 15 years there has accounted for 2 of BC's 3 titles, as well as 4 runners-up.

Bow down to the Badger state, tard.

[SunCoastSooner]

I didn't know that anyone actually watched college hockey...

[MuchoBulls]

I didn't know that anyone actually watched college hockey...

You don't know what you're missing then.

[King Crimson]

Um, if only having one title in the last 37 years disqualifies you from having an premier program, that'd mean that in college football the following programs would not be premier:


Texas

FTFY

[SoCalTrjn]

I didn't know that anyone actually watched college hockey...

more than watch college soccer, wrestling, lacrosse, track and field and womens basketball combined


Took my sons to the frozen four a few years ago when it was in Anaheim, great time.... more fun than Omaha

[Screw_Michigan]

Maybe not this year, but in the overall context of college hockey UW belongs in the top 5, more so than Boston College does.

Shut the fuck up. My math is right on this one: BC has won two national titles since 2000, been to the last three national title games, and is coached by Jerry York, three-time national title winner. Not only that, it is located in one of the best major cities in the nation and arguably the best when it comes to amateur and college hockey in the metro area. They regularly dominate their area rivals (i.e. all the city schools) and bring home Beanpots left and right. Madison makes the Bronx look like a pleasurable vacation destination. A few lakes and nothing but dairy farms and fruit farms, which explains your dumbass perfectly, hours and hours from anything worth giving a fuck about.

WU won a title in 2006, and that's about it. They're like the 05 Chicago White Sox: One awesome year surrounded by shit. That's where the Badger program is right now. Sure, you got your fancy fucking arena, and 15k fans, but you losers tank at every available opportunity. Underachieving is the team motto in Madison.

BC is just the best program in the east in recent history, but in terms of the NCAA tournament, Boston U probably has a better overall history. Jerry York is an outstanding coach, and in his 15 years there has accounted for 2 of BC's 3 titles, as well as 4 runners-up.

Bow down to the Badger state, tard.

Go fuck yourself. I like BU, but BU is nowhere on the same level as BC. Playoff success in the last 10 years out front should have told you. BU will have regular season success every once in a while, I believe they won the league regular season in 06-07 and tanked in the first round of the tournament against MSU. I was there for that. BU has a nice, new arena, but their athletic budget is peanuts compared to BC. I'm sure BU will have a renaissance, all great programs do. But as of right now, BU is not even close to BC in terms of program status.

Only a mouth-breathing rump ranger like yourself would ever convolute something as absurd as WU being a better program than BC. Fuck BC, but they are flat out better than WU right now.

If you don't like it, tough shit. Just another dumbfuck Badger fan to laugh at. You and your shit league enjoy the summer. Another year before you get raped by the CCHA.

[Screw_Michigan]

just to finish the argument, here's from wikipedia on how BC is far superior to WU.

In 14 years, York has led the Eagles to four Hockey East regular season titles in 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, six Hockey East tournament titles in 1998, 1999, 2001, 2005, 2007, 2008, four Beanpot titles in 1994, 2001, 2004, 2008, ten NCAA tournament appearances, and two national titles in 2001 by beating North Dakota, and 2008 by beating Notre Dame. York's BC teams have eight Frozen Four appearances in eleven years from 1998 to 2008. During that span, BC has played in the National Championship Game six times. BC lost four national title game to Michigan in 1999, to North Dakota in 2000, to Wisconsin in 2006, and to Michigan State in 2007. Since 1998 York's BC teams rank 1st in the NCAA with a post-season winning percentage of 79.2% (57-15).

oh, eight frozen four appearances in 11 years? And WU?

[Goober McTuber]

Fuck BC, but they are flat out better than WU right now.

I’m going to assume that by this point the Extasy was hitting pretty hard, and you’re trying to type “UW”. If so, this was about the only concept in this entire thread that you got right. Right now, this year, BC is better.

I’ve been talking about the entire context of college hockey. I specifically mentioned that when comparing BU and BC (or would you rather have them labeled UB and CB?) You want to narrow down little segments of recent history to suit your argument, but you even managed to fuck that up. But props to you for admitting that you “stand corrected”, even though at that time of night it’s dubious whether you could stand at all.

When you sober up, please take note of the fact that I already recognized Jerry York as an outstanding coach and the architect of BC’c recent success. In the overall scheme of things, this does not enable to BC to supplant UW as one of the four best programs in college hockey. I breathlessly await your next idiot savant rant, e. e. cumbreath.

[Screw_Michigan]

I spelled it WU intentionally to show my disrespect towards the University of Wisconsin. You know, kind of like spray painting your rival gang's symbol upside down, you fucking tard.

Eat another donut. Feel free to come back when your coach actually gets his players to play to their full potential or he gets offed, I feel the latter will happen sooner.