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Obama not held to same standard as previous Presidents

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:31 pm
by Left Seater
So it seems that NAACP and other prominent minority leaders don't think it is necessary for Obama to include minorities on his team.
Yahoo Story wrote:In 1992, Bill Clinton famously promised to appoint a Cabinet that “looks like America.” He followed through, tapping women and minorities for high-ranking positions and overseeing an administration more diverse than any that had come before it. President Bush continued this tradition, appointing two African-Americans to his national security/foreign policy team.
...Put in political terms, does our first African-American president, elected with a rainbow coalition, have more of an imperative to appoint an administration that includes minorities in high-ranking positions?
Not really, is the answer supplied by a group of prominent African-Americans. Having a team of varied faces is preferable and in keeping with Obama’s pledge to represent all Americans — but these veteran black politicians and public officials say the president-elect should tap into the best talent available without taking a head-counting approach, in which slots are determined by demographics and symbolism trumps substance.
So now that their guy is in the White House quotas and diversity are out the window? Are they just saying this hoping that Obama appoints a ton of minorities anyway?

Actually I am all for this. Let's end this crap about quotas and race etc, and go with the best talent available all the time. Glad to see the NAACP finally getting on board. Race should no longer be a factor in school admissions, hiring decisions, or appointments. Now every candidate is graded on their resume, not on their resume against only their race.

Re: Obama not held to same standard as previous Presidents

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:37 pm
by Tom In VA
He's "our" guy now, bro.

I recommend, keeping the nitpickery to a minimum. Splitting hairs and nipping at his heels has the potential to drown out and detract from the appropriate criticisms and opposition to his policies that really do impact our lives - if/when they do.

Don't lower yourself.

Solid take.

Re: Obama not held to same standard as previous Presidents

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:51 pm
by Mikey
If he appoints Tiger Woods to any position, that should satisfy all potential minority quotas.

Re: Obama not held to same standard as previous Presidents

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:57 pm
by Left Seater
"Our" guy in that he is the President of the US, and I am a citizen.

"Their" guy in that he is a black man that they see furthering their agenda.

Further, this isn't a take on Obama so much as it is a take on the likes of the NAACP. We can't judge Obama on his appointments now, before they have been made. We can however, call out this group of "prominent African-Americans" for their double standards.

Re: Obama not held to same standard as previous Presidents

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:01 pm
by Cuda
Tom In VA wrote: nitpickery .
better find a new word.

the wrong people might mistake that for "picaninny"

Re: Obama not held to same standard as previous Presidents

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:14 pm
by PSUFAN
Like I was saying earlier...Obama might be a better friend to those tired of PC demagoguery than he might casually appear to be.

For those who regard him as their personal savior and provider, he will represent a learning experience, as they begin to understand why it is impossible for him to be those things.

Obama wants to get things done. He will have to use the best qualified people in order to do that.

If Obama is prepared to...and indeed must operate in this way, then many will be forced to understand why.

Re: Obama not held to same standard as previous Presidents

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:19 pm
by Mikey
PSUFAN wrote:Like I was saying earlier...Obama might be a better friend to those tired of PC demagoguery than he might casually appear to be.

For those who regard him as their personal savior and provider, he will represent a learning experience, as they begin to understand why it is impossible for him to be those things.

Obama wants to get things done. He will have to use the best qualified people in order to do that.

If Obama is prepared to...and indeed must operate in this way, then many will be forced to understand why.
I had a feeling that Jesse Jackson's tears during the acceptance speech were not entirely tears of happiness.

Re: Obama not held to same standard as previous Presidents

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:18 am
by Felix
Mikey wrote: I had a feeling that Jesse Jackson's tears during the acceptance speech were not entirely tears of happiness.
Jesse was just upset because he knows that Obama being elected has marginalized him right out the fucking door....people will pay even less attention to Jackson than they already did (if that's possible)...same with Al Sharpton

Re: Obama not held to same standard as previous Presidents

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:42 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Obama's cabinet does look like "America"...

...the part of "America" that lives over a bagel shop beside the local Jewish Community Center across from the Cash-4-Gold pawn shop in the Jew-iest part of Jew-merica.

You know, where all the kinky-haired, hook-nosed, Jesus-murdering, church-spitting, penny chiseling kike heeb boxcar jockeys live.

Re: Obama not held to same standard as previous Presidents

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:54 pm
by Goober McTuber
Martyred wrote:Obama's cabinet does look like "America"...

...the part of "America" that lives over a bagel shop beside the local Jewish Community Center across from the Cash-4-Gold pawn shop in the Jew-iest part of Jew-merica.

You know, where all the kinky-haired, hook-nosed, Jesus-murdering, church-spitting, penny chiseling kike heeb boxcar jockeys live.
Holy shit. Did a Jewish boy once steal your girlfriend?

Re: Obama not held to same standard as previous Presidents

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:08 pm
by Felix
Goober McTuber wrote: your girlfriend
too fucking easy

Re: Obama not held to same standard as previous Presidents

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:16 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Felix wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote: your girlfriend
too fucking easy

T1B's post-menstrual "board bitch" says what?

You get passed around here more than biker skank at an Angel's clubhouse.

Re: Obama not held to same standard as previous Presidents

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:57 pm
by Felix
Martyred wrote:skank
when it comes to the topic of skanks, I think most on the board would agree that you are definitely in your wheelhouse