The State Of College Football

[Sky]

Can anyone explain to me why everyone is so quick to pull the trigger when it comes to CFB coaches?

1) You have schools all too quick to hire and fire. This isn't a new problem but the recent past seems to have many many examples of coaches being let go before they get a solid chance at a school. And even those who have had a chance (8+ yrs) are let go if their recent performance doesn't match their earlier success.

Examples: Prince, Solich, Nutt, Fulmer, Willingham (ND), Shula, O'Brien, Walt Harris

2) Some coaches seem to jump at the first chance they get to head to a "better" school. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't but it seems like everyone not in a "premiere" coaching job is just waiting to sell out to the highest bidder. No continuity, no loyalty, its all about the money and fame. Why can't anyone be happy where they are?

Examples: Petrino, Saban, Rich Rod, June Jones, Erickson, Spurrier

3) Schools are practically falling over themselves to pay their current coaches larges sums of money over many many years to ensure they keep their coach---and in many of these instances, they coach is unproven IMO. It seems like every time a team cracks the top 10 during the season, regardless of how they finish, the coach is granted an extension.

Examples: Gundy, WEISS, Tressel (gets a raise/extension every other year), Stoops, Mack Brown, Les Miles, Tubberville, Ferentz

There are numerous other examples in college basketball but the point is the same, why are schools and coaches so quick to go to one extreme or the other? You are either fired, given a huge raise, or move on to a new school. No in between.

[Dinsdale]

You make some interesting points... except maybe the one about Auburn falling all over themselves to throw money at Tuberville.


I heard this funny little rumor recently that lead me to believe that wasn't neccessarily the case.

[Sky]

Tubberville got the contract bump last year....

[Adelpiero]

Tubberville got the contract bump last year....

yes, but what people don't understand about some of these extensions, is that many times when the Universities extend they also lower the Buyout to get rid of said coach.

Take KST,ND,etc they extended, but lowered the buyout to a reasonable price. Same with Hawkins at CU, he just got an extension, and i believe they lowered his buyout significantly. So while it looks like they got this raise and more years, the University just made it easier to get rid of them before the contract is up.

[Moby Dick]

It's the Insta-success a few have...Stoops,Saban,Meyer..etc...they hold the bar way too high.

[Left Seater]

More schools should use the contract language that Texas uses in their contracts with coaches. Somehow they have language that allows the school to reassign them within the athletic department. They are no longer the head coach, but still work for their salary at the school. At the same time they can't go elsewhere and coach. Hell, in the early years of the Brown era Texas still had 3 other coaches on the payroll: Royal, McWilliams, Macovick. Granted, Royal is more for the figure head status, but McWilliams and Macovick were doing real work for the school.

[Vito Corleone]

More schools should use the contract language that Texas uses in their contracts with coaches. Somehow they have language that allows the school to reassign them within the athletic department. They are no longer the head coach, but still work for their salary at the school. At the same time they can't go elsewhere and coach. Hell, in the early years of the Brown era Texas still had 3 other coaches on the payroll: Royal, McWilliams, Macovick. Granted, Royal is more for the figure head status, but McWilliams and Macovick were doing real work for the school.

The beauty of doing that is if said coach decides to take up coaching else where they must terminate their contract and eliminate all that money owed to them by the University. MacII helped design one hell of a nice golf course.

[the_ouskull]

Sounds like dirty pool to me.

the_ouskull