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....dead or alive. Duos, trios, full fukking orchestras. whatever.

I'd like to see SRV, Ray Charles, Papa JoJones. There's some old school big fat black dude stand up bass player , who's name I forget as well. That much soul in one spot at a time might cause some sort of cosmic disturbance though. Prolly have to have steve vai sit in and play rhythm just to moderate the soul level a bit.

Hopefully that dig will draw van in. I know you're out there, fukker.

So this is like the old "ultimate band" parlor game eh? The way I see it, you can go in two directions. You can pick those you feel were the absolute best at their disciplines, or you can try to compile a group that is harmonically in tune with each other but maybe not quite as loaded with virtuoso talent.

Me, I prefer the latter to the former. So here goes. We are, of course, assuming all of these guys are alive and in their prime.

• Trumpet-Miles Davis- I want some horns and Miles could play the fuck out of any style you put in front of him.
  
  Lead Guitar/Vocals-Jerry Garcia- Jerry could do it all, from folk, to bluegrass to jazz to straight up rock and roll.
  
  Bass/Melotron- John Paul Jones- A group this creative needs a solid workman at bass. Not only that, but JPJ cut his teeth playing jazz as a kid.
  
  Keyboards/Vocals- Steve Windwood- Just because I want to hear this group do Empty Pages
  
  Drums- Terry Bozzio- Anyone who could hang with Frank Zappa AND be perfectly comfortable laying down a 4/4 backbeat playing for Missing Persons is just the type of person to keep things solid in the rhythm section
  
  Rhythm Guitar/Vocals- John Lennon- He's by no means a guitar virtuoso. But he's steady, gifted at turning a phrase like no other and at heart would have enjoyed the hell out of jamming for 15-20 minutes at a crack.
  
  Lead vocals- Robert Fucking Plant- A group with this much sheer talent doesn't need someone capable of whiping the crowd into a frenzy. But why the hell not? And nobody was better at it than Plant.

Here's a pretty good pairing --

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IrWyZ0KZuk

BSmack wrote:So this is like the old "ultimate band" parlor game eh? The way I see it, you can go in two directions. You can pick those you feel were the absolute best at their disciplines, or you can try to compile a group that is harmonically in tune with each other but maybe not quite as loaded with virtuoso talent.

Me, I prefer the latter to the former. So here goes. We are, of course, assuming all of these guys are alive and in their prime.

• Trumpet-Miles Davis- I want some horns and Miles could play the fuck out of any style you put in front of him.
  
  Lead Guitar/Vocals-Jerry Garcia- Jerry could do it all, from folk, to bluegrass to jazz to straight up rock and roll.
  
  Bass/Melotron- John Paul Jones- A group this creative needs a solid workman at bass. Not only that, but JPJ cut his teeth playing jazz as a kid.
  
  Keyboards/Vocals- Steve Windwood- Just because I want to hear this group do Empty Pages
  
  Drums- Terry Bozzio- Anyone who could hang with Frank Zappa AND be perfectly comfortable laying down a 4/4 backbeat playing for Missing Persons is just the type of person to keep things solid in the rhythm section
  
  Rhythm Guitar/Vocals- John Lennon- He's by no means a guitar virtuoso. But he's steady, gifted at turning a phrase like no other and at heart would have enjoyed the hell out of jamming for 15-20 minutes at a crack.
  
  Lead vocals- Robert Fucking Plant- A group with this much sheer talent doesn't need someone capable of whiping the crowd into a frenzy. But why the hell not? And nobody was better at it than Plant.

that's one killer line up, B. If you're gonna invite terry, might as well have frank join him, as he is the master at putting together a stunning group of musicians and have them play really really brilliant, yet fukk up stuff. Joe's Garage, in addition to being hilarious, is so overflowing with musicianship, it's ridiculous. Didn't really notice it as a dumb kid as I was laughing too hard at "don't get no jizz upon the sofa, sofa" and other cerebral lyrics

dins, you and van oughta get a room.

vai is hugely talented, but, there's just something about his sound that leaves me flat. I think it's mostly just the tone. Kinda cold sounding to me. He needs to set that strat up the way SRV did.

smackaholic wrote:
vai is hugely talented, but, there's just something about his sound that leaves me flat. I think it's mostly just the tone. Kinda cold sounding to me. He needs to set that strat up the way SRV did.

The sheer ignorance is astounding.

First, on the physical level -- when was the last time you saw a 7-string Strat?

Ibanez pays Stevie the big bicks to play Ibanez exclusively. It's been that way for, I dunno... 20 years or so?

I'm having trouble coming up with any guitarists that have a more broad range of tone than Stevie.


Speaking of Zappa -- How you feel about the You Are What You Is album?

You know -- that one Steve Vai did much of the guitar work on, after Zappa hired him after hearing a tape of one song?

Winwood, B_Shellacked. Not WinDwood.

Man, can you imagine of Ry Cooder and Steve Vai got together for a hoedown?


Wait...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0QKbnCDW94


Because everyone knows that Stevie is second only to the Karate Kid when it comes to head-cutting.


Man, back 22 years ago or whatever, we were all like "holy shit, they made a movie out of Stevie!" And in the pre-internet days, you could only get that song as one of those floppy pullout thingies out of Guitar Player mag...

Speaking of, for Christmas, a certain female I may or may not have sex with gave me a Guitar Player from 1986, with a Steve Vai pullout record still intact.


The Good Old Days.

Speaking of 80's shredders...

Can you imagine if Billy Sheehan, Paul Gilbert, Pat Torpey and Eric Martin got together?

That would be some Big shredding.


Wait... nevermind.

Will you shut the fuck up already?

Members, posting on an internet forum?

Oh, the humanity!

Dinsdale wrote:

smackaholic wrote:
vai is hugely talented, but, there's just something about his sound that leaves me flat. I think it's mostly just the tone. Kinda cold sounding to me. He needs to set that strat up the way SRV did.

The sheer ignorance is astounding.

First, on the physical level -- when was the last time you saw a 7-string Strat?

when was the last time you watched the fukking video you posted. It is an ibanez (looks a hell of a lot like a strat though) and it sure the fukk does have 6 strings.

I'll take being ignernt over being a dumbfuk, anyday.

Ibanez pays Stevie the big bicks to play Ibanez exclusively. It's been that way for, I dunno... 20 years or so?

6 and 7 string, apparently.

I'm having trouble coming up with any guitarists that have a more broad range of tone than Stevie.

who gives a fukk. never said he didn't have a wide range of tone. I just stated that his tone, didn't do it for ME. You see, this is called an opinion. And contrary to what you might think, opinions do vary. Makes it a bit more interesting that way.


Speaking of Zappa -- How you feel about the You Are What You Is album?

You know -- that one Steve Vai did much of the guitar work on, after Zappa hired him after hearing a tape of one song?

Haven't heard much from it, but, I've heard joe's garage many times. One of the best albums ever made. Too bad steve wasn't on it.

smackaholic wrote:...I've heard joe's garage many times. One of the best albums ever made.

I bought Joe's Garage (Act II & III) when I was 15. Pretty much defined the way I listen to music today.

Now, this isn't my favourite Zappa tune, but it's a pretty good YouTube offering.

Frank Zappa - Montana 08-21-73

The guitar solo kicks in at 1:59.

Martyred wrote: I bought Joe's Garage (Act II & III) when I was 15. Pretty much defined the way I listen to music today.

yeah, novelty records are a blast - I was never quite the same after I first listened to Ray Stevens.

Zappa did some great work with the hollywood persueders tho.

Dr_Phibes wrote:

Martyred wrote: I bought Joe's Garage (Act II & III) when I was 15. Pretty much defined the way I listen to music today.

yeah, novelty records are a blast - I was never quite the same after I first listened to Ray Stevens.

Zappa did some great work with the hollywood persueders tho.

I hope you put your grandpa's records back before he notices. Try not to spill chocolate milk on the sleeves too.

dins, you wanna hear some REAL tone.

Listen to the tone fukking master.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNqnlRxg ... re=related

gotta be the most instantly recognizable geeetar sound evah.

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