G20 coming to Pittsburgh

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Sun May 31, 2009 1:05 pm

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09151/974022-53.stm

Stay tuned, this could be a hoot.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sun May 31, 2009 1:18 pm

The crew should see if they can do some "consulting" for this. Why don't you PM douchebag the UAW goon's email address.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Sun May 31, 2009 2:10 pm

Could be worse....could be a WTO meeting.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sun May 31, 2009 2:28 pm

I look forward to Rage Against the Machine reuniting for this event.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Sun May 31, 2009 4:01 pm

This will be interesting...I imagine protest group are licking their chops at the prospect of what they perceive to be small-town security. The truth is, security will be handled by the professionals that always handle events such as these. They will work with local enforcement groups - actually they have been doing so already for at least a month. If anything, law enforcement will have the upper hand because Pittsburgh is not as difficult to cover as other larger cities.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Sun May 31, 2009 4:33 pm

PSUFAN wrote:This will be interesting...I imagine protest group are licking their chops at the prospect of what they perceive to be small-town security. The truth is, security will be handled by the professionals that always handle events such as these. They will work with local enforcement groups - actually they have been doing so already for at least a month. If anything, law enforcement will have the upper hand because Pittsburgh is not as difficult to cover as other larger cities.

Care to expand on that? Smaller cities have smaller departments. Sure, multiple agencies will be handing this (spearheaded by the Secret Service). But I don't know how you think your city would be any better to handle it than Seattle's (besides not having that kook of a police chief Seattle had back then).

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sun May 31, 2009 4:48 pm

Diego in Seattle wrote:
PSUFAN wrote:This will be interesting...I imagine protest group are licking their chops at the prospect of what they perceive to be small-town security. The truth is, security will be handled by the professionals that always handle events such as these. They will work with local enforcement groups - actually they have been doing so already for at least a month. If anything, law enforcement will have the upper hand because Pittsburgh is not as difficult to cover as other larger cities.
Care to expand on that? Smaller cities have smaller departments. Sure, multiple agencies will be handing this (spearheaded by the Secret Service). But I don't know how you think your city would be any better to handle it than Seattle's (besides not having that kook of a police chief Seattle had back then).

There's two reasons I can think of.

1. For once, having some of the worst roads and the most incomprehensible road naming conventions will be a help to Pittsburgh. Half the protesters will be wandering around trying to figure out how to get and stay on the damned yellow loop. Or orange, or green loops for that matter.

2. The topography of Pittsburgh makes large scale gatherings much more difficult. Put the conference in the right spot, and you'll be lucky to get 5,000 protesters within sight of the meeting spot. Between the hills and the rivers, there's a lot of natural barriers in Pittsburgh.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sun May 31, 2009 5:00 pm

Wasn't the place where the crew had their pburg welcoming party called the point? I assume it is at the intersection of a few rivers. Have it there. I doubt the crew wants to set foot back into that place, no matter how lucrative the consulting fees.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sun May 31, 2009 7:09 pm

smackaholic wrote:The crew should see if they can do some "consulting" for this. Why don't you PM douchebag the UAW goon's email address.

He's president of the United Steelworkers. I know reading for comprehension is difficult for you, but if you're going to slur the unions, get them right, dumbfuck.

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun May 31, 2009 8:18 pm

G20??

Shit, I about had a heart attack, thinking I'd missed the news.

"Really? G3 is now G20? Holy crap!"

That'd be incredible, but man, it'd take forever. Before they even got half way through the line up I'd already be deaf.

G20? Hmmm. Who would be invited?

First, the obvious people, the previous G3 people...

Satch
Vai
Eric Johnson
Petrucci
Robert Fripp
Yngwie
KWS
Steve Morse
Billy Gibbons
Neal Schon
Paul Gilbert

Then there'd be the obvious guys who haven't gotten to do it yet...

DiMeola
Kirk Hammett (Friend and student of Satch)
GG
Bonamassa

What about the obvious Classic Rock Brits?

Page
Clapton
Beck
Gilmour
Knopfler

Yeah, that'd work. That'd be a nice G20.

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Sun May 31, 2009 8:45 pm

I'd include Alvin Lee over Mark Knopfler.

ADAM · Post by **ADAM** » Sun May 31, 2009 8:57 pm

Jimi Hendrix would make them all his bitch....

I am surprised an old fart like you Van, would appreciate Beck...

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Sun May 31, 2009 9:03 pm

ADAM wrote:I am surprised an old fart like you Van, would appreciate Beck...

That would be Jeff Beck, not Beck Hansen.

And a dead guy typically doesn't make anyone his bitch.

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun May 31, 2009 9:09 pm

Smackie, there's a good baker's dozen worth of worthy choices. I went with Knopfler just for being a lot "bigger" name than Lee.

Among the Classic Rock Brits other obvious choices would include Blackmore, Iommi, Townshend, Trower, Adrian Belew and Steve Howe.

Then there are Classic Rock Euros such as Uli Roth and Michael Schenker.

What about EVH, Johnny Winter, Nugent, Reb Beach and Steve Lukather?

Limiting it to twenty, even that could prove difficult.

ADAM · Post by **ADAM** » Sun May 31, 2009 9:10 pm

Smackie Chan wrote:
ADAM wrote:I am surprised an old fart like you Van, would appreciate Beck...
That would be Jeff Beck, not Beck Hansen.

And a dead guy typically doesn't make anyone his bitch.

True.....

Yes, I did know you were talking...err typing about Jeff Beck.

I guess great dead guitar artists is for a different thread....

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun May 31, 2009 9:18 pm

ADAM wrote:Jimi Hendrix would make them all his bitch....

Not really. Never mind guys like GG and Joe Bonamassa, even among dead guys there are people like SRV, Danny Gatton and Shawn Lane who would rip Hendrix's head off.

I am surprised an old fart like you Van, would appreciate Beck...

Why? Wouldn't my age make me more likely to appreciate Beck? I'm nowhere near the oldest guy here but I'm old enough to remember Beck when he was at his peak of popularity, and I'm old enough that I saw him play with SRV.

You lost me there, dude.

Steve Vai · Post by **Steve Vai** » Sun May 31, 2009 9:19 pm

Dude...you guys took this thread and OWNED it. Rock on, my brothahs.

ADAM · Post by **ADAM** » Sun May 31, 2009 9:22 pm

^^^^ Total fag!

Eliminated

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun May 31, 2009 9:24 pm

Vai's another one who would thoroughly destroy Hendrix.

ADAM · Post by **ADAM** » Sun May 31, 2009 9:31 pm

Van wrote:Vai's another one who would thoroughly destroy Hendrix.

Surely you jest.....

Steve Vai is a better guitarist than Jimi?

You've got life all fucked up....

Dude , you need to be urinated on by Keith Moon......to the tunes of Jerry Garcia strumming "Sugar Magnolia"

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun May 31, 2009 9:45 pm

ADAM wrote:
Van wrote:Vai's another one who would thoroughly destroy Hendrix.

Surely you jest.....

In a G3 (or G20) setting?? It's not even worth debating. There are few people on this planet who can cut heads with Vai, and Hendrix would be completely out of his depth in such a setting.

Pitting Hendrix against Vai in a head cutting duel would be positively cruel to Hendrix.

Steve Vai is a better guitarist than Jimi?

In every single way, and it's not even close, except for blues playing. Hendrix was the better blues player, mainly because Vai just cannot bring himself to play blues and stick to it.

Hendrix was a better song writer than Vai. Hendrix was a better singer than Vai. Hendrix was a far more important guitarist than Vai, in the overall scheme of things. Hendrix was way more influential.

He's nowhere near the guitarist, however.

You've got life all fucked up....

Nope, I'm just realistic, and I know enough about each guitarist to know that Hendrix isn't on the same planet as Vai, not as a guitarist.

You wanna know who actually is on the same planet as Vai, as a guitarist?

GG
Steve Morse
Satch
Allan Holdsworth
Petrucci
DiMeola
Andy Timmons...

...and a few other guys you've probably also never heard of before.

Dude , you need to be urinated on by Keith Moon......

John Bonham owned Keith Moon.

Steve Vai · Post by **Steve Vai** » Sun May 31, 2009 9:49 pm

Dude , you need to be urinated on by Keith Moon

Yeah, we need to party soon. Our shit will be OFF THE HOOK.

ADAM · Post by **ADAM** » Sun May 31, 2009 9:52 pm

I have no argument.

I have been busted as a half assed guitar afficianado.

I like what I like , but you did forget Tito Santana....

Whew! Dodged that elimination like Keanu Reeves in The Matrix......

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun May 31, 2009 9:55 pm

True, Santana would certainly need to be included on any list of Classic Rock guitarists.

He's a very minor entity, purely as a guitarist, since he's an awfully pedestrian player, but he's certainly earned a mention.

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Sun May 31, 2009 10:09 pm

Van wrote:Santana's a very minor entity, purely as a guitarist, since he's an awfully pedestrian player

Further evidence of your racism and bigotry. Not to mention vapidity and fuckstickery.

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun May 31, 2009 10:18 pm

Smackie Chan wrote:
Van wrote:Santana's a very minor entity, purely as a guitarist, since he's an awfully pedestrian player
Further evidence of your racism and bigotry. Not to mention vapidity and fuckstickery.

I'm surprised you didn't also include the fact that I mistakenly labeled Adrian Belew a Brit. Dude's from Kentucky, which really isn't Blighty. This sort of error on my part must be an indicator of an even deeper and more vapid, fuckstickin' bigotry.

ADAM · Post by **ADAM** » Sun May 31, 2009 11:09 pm

Smackie Chan wrote: fuckstickery.

That is my new official favorite word.....

WAR FUCKSTICKERY

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sun May 31, 2009 11:17 pm

You blew a Brit?

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun May 31, 2009 11:32 pm

Nice.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sun May 31, 2009 11:42 pm

How 'bout John Mayer? Yeah, I know he should be shot for horrible pop crooning, but, dude can play the blues better than any white boy* since Stevie.

Well, yes of course GG can play them better, but, he's not a whiteboy. He's G fukkin' G!!!!! He's his own species.

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:00 am

Mayer's good, but he's no Joe Bonamassa...or Jeff Healey. Not even close. Anyway, besides Clapton I didn't mention any blues guys, and Clapton's British Classic Rock royalty.

The point being, G3 (or G20) is not really about pentatonic blues players like Mayer.

Well, check that. For some odd reason they did include KWS, a long time ago. Billy Gibbons also guested on one tour. That was a weird one, though, having a blues player like KWS as one of the three headliners on a G3 tour. Even there, KWS is much more of an SRV-clone jam player than Mayer, who's more of a pop crooner.

Mayer is an underrated blues player, I'll give you that. He's very good. People just don't want to give him any credit, because of his pretty boy/pop icon status.

Dig into some Joe Bonamassa, and Robben Ford. You'll quickly realize that no, John Mayer is not the best white blues player since SRV.

Speaking of which, how could I forget ol' "Monster Face," Gary Moore? There's another white blues player/British Classic Rock icon who's far better than Mayer, and he's also "rock" enough to be prefect for G20.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:58 am

Lotsa flirtation with ELIMINATIONERY up in here...

Steve Vai · Post by **Steve Vai** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:58 pm

Honestly, dudes, I hardly even like music. I just play because I'm so disgustingly GOOD.

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:24 pm

Valid reason. Carry on.

ADAM · Post by **ADAM** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:35 pm

I forgot about BB King.....

Moore can hold his own though...

Who says your too old to get re-educated?

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:07 pm

Adam wrote:Who says your too old to get re-educated?

Nobody, but you best get started. Since you just got eliminated you should have both the time and the motivation, so make it happen.

As for Gary Moore, yeah, he can more than hold his own. He can flat out Xerox B.B. King, but B.B. couldn't even begin to do what Moore can do.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:48 pm

Van wrote:Pitting Hendrix against Vai in a head cutting duel would be positively cruel to Hendrix.

Thanks for the laugh.

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:29 pm

You're welcome, though I gotta say, you find amusement in the oddest places.

ADAM · Post by **ADAM** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:59 pm

Van wrote:
Adam wrote:Who says your too old to get re-educated?
Nobody, but you best get started. Since you just got eliminated you should have both the time and the motivation, so make it happen.

As for Gary Moore, yeah, he can more than hold his own. He can flat out Xerox B.B. King, but B.B. couldn't even begin to do what Moore can do.

SHIT!

Now, I will continue to throw my grammatical errors to the wind!

Nice bust Van! ( no, not your bitch-tits)

Dickhead :bode:

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:00 am

Fukk a buncha G3, G20, whatevah.

It's all about G2 or, if you prefer GG.

Bow down to Guitar Gzus.