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War Wagon wrote:I saw a story on CNN where Obama was chirping in November about how AARP supported this reform bill and what a huge endorsement that was.
Since that endorsement, AARP has lost 150,000 dues paying members.
We finally realized that we're all Jim Rome and friends, and that matters more than anything that might come between us.Martyred wrote:Something...something...National Health Care...something...
Obama certainly gave a fuck about them.Screw_Michigan wrote:Nobody gives a fuck about those members, they were a drop in the ocean who only cared about cheap car rentals and early bird specials at Ponderosa.
War Wagon wrote:Wrong, they wouldn't have lost any. At least not over the health care debate. AARP members were satisfied with the status quo, obviously.
Probably twice as informed as your typical Screwball running around howling at the moon.Mikey wrote: They're so well informed, after all.
War Wagon wrote:I saw a story on CNN where Obama was chirping in November about how AARP supported this reform bill and what a huge endorsement that was.
Since that endorsement, AARP has lost 150,000 dues paying members.
That's a different set of people?War Wagon wrote:Probably twice as informed as your typical Screwball running around howling at the moon.Mikey wrote: They're so well informed, after all.
Mikey wrote:They're so well informed, after all.
KC Scott wrote:...what do you do if you or your family gets sick?
KC Scott wrote: what do you do if you get sick?
KC Scott wrote: Wouldn't you at least want to have the option of buying a more competitive plan?
Wifey has insurance thru her company, if need be I can get on her plan.KC Scott wrote:Wags, what's really amazing to me is a bill like this would help someone in your position considerably, yet you don't support any part of it.
If manufacturing contnues to deteriorate and your company closes the doors, what do you do if you or your family gets sick?
About $26 a week, up from $19 last year.Even if that doesn't occur how much are you paying in to be part of your companies health care plan now?
Perhaps, but I don't trust Pelosi, Reid and company, or anybody in government to write itself a $787 billion dollar check and then manage it any better than they did the "stimulus" bill which wound up only stimulating bankers bonuses.Wouldn't you at least want to have the option of buying a more competitive plan?
define competitive plan. do you mean a gubmint plan where they charge whatever they damn well please, since they don't have to worry about silly things like expenses?KC Scott wrote:War Wagon wrote:I saw a story on CNN where Obama was chirping in November about how AARP supported this reform bill and what a huge endorsement that was.
Since that endorsement, AARP has lost 150,000 dues paying members.
Wags, what's really amazing to me is a bill like this would help someone in your position considerably, yet you don't support any part of it.
If manufacturing contnues to deteriorate and your company closes the doors, what do you do if you or your family gets sick?
Even if that doesn't occur how much are you paying in to be part of your companies health care plan now?
Wouldn't you at least want to have the option of buying a more competitive plan?
Not a surprise that IKYABWAI Wagon is also skilled in NIMBY.KC Scott wrote:War Wagon wrote:I saw a story on CNN where Obama was chirping in November about how AARP supported this reform bill and what a huge endorsement that was.
Since that endorsement, AARP has lost 150,000 dues paying members.
Wags, what's really amazing to me is a bill like this would help someone in your position considerably, yet you don't support any part of it.
If manufacturing contnues to deteriorate and your company closes the doors, what do you do if you or your family gets sick?
Even if that doesn't occur how much are you paying in to be part of your companies health care plan now?
Wouldn't you at least want to have the option of buying a more competitive plan?
:swoonStanley Pickkkle whimpered, "Strip that spic"
People die every day. Especially old ones.War Wagon wrote:Since that endorsement, AARP has lost 150,000 dues paying members.
Canceled memberships, not due to dying.Smackie Chan wrote:People die every day. Especially old ones.War Wagon wrote:Since that endorsement, AARP has lost 150,000 dues paying members.
War Wagon wrote:Canceled memberships, not due to dying.Smackie Chan wrote:People die every day. Especially old ones.War Wagon wrote:Since that endorsement, AARP has lost 150,000 dues paying members.
Nice try.
I wouldn't mind some of the money that I pay to the government going into a fund that would provide me with coverage in the unfortunate circumstance that someday I can't afford to pay may healthcare costs. I also wouldn't mind if some of that money went to pay for costs of other people who are now in that circumstance, as long as I was assured that there would be coverage for me if I need it. I wouldn't call that "freeloading"...would you?88 wrote:Let me translate KC Scott's take for you, Wags:KC Scott wrote:Wags, what's really amazing to me is a bill like this would help someone in your position considerably, yet you don't support any part of it.
If manufacturing contnues to deteriorate and your company closes the doors, what do you do if you or your family gets sick?
Even if that doesn't occur how much are you paying in to be part of your companies health care plan now?
Wouldn't you at least want to have the option of buying a more competitive plan?
If you lose your job and cannot pay for your own health care, don't you want the government to take money from other people and give it to you so that you can maintain your health?
Even if that doesn't occur, why are you paying for your own health care when we can get the government to force other people to pay at least a portion of your costs? Wouldn't you at least want the government to take money away from other people and give it to you?
After all, this is America. Land of the Freeloader, and Home of the Brazen.
Ahhh...Socialism.Mikey wrote:
I wouldn't mind some of the money that I pay to the government going into a fund that would provide me with coverage in the unfortunate circumstance that someday I can't afford to pay may healthcare costs. I also wouldn't mind if some of that money went to pay for costs of other people who are now in that circumstance, as long as I was assured that there would be coverage for me if I need it.
Fucking Rack!Dinsdale wrote:KC Scott wrote: Wouldn't you at least want to have the option of buying a more competitive plan?
For sure...
And if the fed would DO WHAT THEY SWORE TO DO, and follow the Constitution, and GET THE LIVING FUCK OUT OF IT, he'd have that option.
The "health-care crisis" was freaking caused by federal intervention in private industry. Not sure how dumb someone has to be to think that federalizing it further is going to "fix" anything.
Repeal the HMO Act of 1973. It will take a few years for the market to adapt, but watch rates plunge
across the board. All that heinous law did was reduce competition in the
marketplace, and as with most government meddling, artificially manipulated the
upply/demand curve, which invariably screws the consumer.
Isn't that sorta' what Medicare and Medicaid already do?Mikey wrote: I wouldn't mind some of the money that I pay to the government going into a fund that would provide me with coverage in the unfortunate circumstance that someday I can't afford to pay may healthcare costs. I also wouldn't mind if some of that money went to pay for costs of other people who are now in that circumstance, as long as I was assured that there would be coverage for me if I need it.
Your reasoning skills are somewhere between "laughably inept" and "BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!"War Wagon wrote:I shudder to think how her 4 kids could've afforded those bills w/o Medicare and Medicaid.
Does she run around and howl at the moon?War Wagon wrote:Isn't that sorta' what Medicare and Medicaid already do?Mikey wrote: I wouldn't mind some of the money that I pay to the government going into a fund that would provide me with coverage in the unfortunate circumstance that someday I can't afford to pay may healthcare costs. I also wouldn't mind if some of that money went to pay for costs of other people who are now in that circumstance, as long as I was assured that there would be coverage for me if I need it.
True, you aren't eligible for it until you're old enough (or older) to be an AARP member, but that safety net will (or should) be there once you're no longer a useful member of society and can't pay your own insurance or medical bills anymore.
You asked me before if I knew any "old" people. Yes I do, my mother who just turned 89 and lives in hospice care. She fell out of bed last year and broke her hip (again) and had to go to the hospital for a awhile. They sent me all her bills/statements and I shudder to think how her 4 kids could've afforded those bills w/o Medicare and Medicaid.
Yeah, that $13.52 a week I pay in Medicare taxes would certainly have put a dent in a $30,000 hospital bill... if I had put it in a savings account for the last 40 years.Dinsdale wrote: Gee, I dunno how they'd afford it dipshit... maybe by reducing the federal budget by 50 fucking percent without Medicrap, you might have more money in your paycheck?
Wasn't the Senate supposed to have some sort of "power debate" and then push legislation through during the holidays?Tom In VA wrote:Marty, there is no way the muzzie who got permission from the Imam to rub one out as long as he lubed up with explosive KY and took some infidels out afterwards is a "wag the dog".
50% huh?Dinsdale wrote:maybe by reducing the federal budget by 50 fucking percent without Medicrap....
Pure coincidence.Martyred wrote:Wasn't the Senate supposed to have some sort of "power debate" and then push legislation through during the holidays?Tom In VA wrote:Marty, there is no way the muzzie who got permission from the Imam to rub one out as long as he lubed up with explosive KY and took some infidels out afterwards is a "wag the dog".
...and then some dude's underpants burst into flames...
The End.
Closer to the truth, I stand corrected.mvscal wrote:They aren't impotent. They are in on the scam. We have a one party system with a comic opera illusion of choice.Tom In VA wrote: The Republicans are impotent .
Medical malpractice roache .. s... err .. lawyers?88 wrote:Just a question, Wags. If you haven't paid in $30,000, why do you think you should get out $30,000? If everyone thinks and acts like that, who pays the bill?
War Wagon wrote:
Yeah, that $13.52 a week I pay in Medicare taxes would certainly have put a dent in a $30,000 hospital bill... if I had put it in a savings account for the last 40 years.
Flipping 'tard.