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Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:00 am
by R-Jack
Why the fuck else would they stay in that shithole?

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:50 am
by smackaholic
That list seems to celebrate diversity pretty well. A little heavy on dagos, perhaps, which is to be expected as they tend to be gifted in the art of corruption.

Good to see that the feds have cracked down on the crooks there as well as here in CT where the former mayor of hartford just got sent up the river for 3 years.

Too bad they can't do the same with their bosses, the fed level crooks.

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:30 pm
by Bizzarofelice
I could tell some major city accounting office stories. Suffice to say, taxpayers don't wanna know. And more politics is accomplished than actually money management.

At most businesses there is some grift and selfishness. The difference is these people are doing it with tax dollars.

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:40 pm
by Screw_Michigan
What was Cleveland saying about "at least we're not Detroit?"

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:52 pm
by Derron
Bizzarofelice wrote:I could tell some major city accounting office stories. Suffice to say, taxpayers don't wanna know. And more politics is accomplished than actually money management.

At most businesses there is some grift and selfishness. The difference is these people are doing it with tax dollars.
I could tell a few from the construction side as well. As to what it actually takes to get and keep some of these public contracts.

Seen more than a few of these corrupt bastards move around to different agencies or jobs, when the shit got close to the light of day. Virtually every public agency has some sort of this going on.

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:29 am
by smackaholic
Papa Willie wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote:What was Cleveland saying about "at least we're not Detroit?"
Like Detroit is any better, you fuck-clipped jug of shit?
haven't a clue what "fuck-clipped" is, but, I laughed anyhoo.

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:12 am
by LTS TRN 2
While the perfect storm of factors that made Cleveland the ideal mafia town are being slowly processed in the ridiculous number of indictments in what is the most entrenched system of organized crime in this country, the real scandal of the buckeye state has seemingly evaporated--that of the 2004 attorney general J. Kenneth Blackwell having facilitated the biggest voter fraud in American history. Sure, ring up Russo ( :D ) but don't pretend to have gained any ground on the real fiends.

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:14 am
by R-Jack
LTS TRN 2 wrote: but don't pretend to have gained any ground on the real fiends.
Oh, let me guess...........

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:37 am
by PSUFAN
Similar rumblings in The Burgh:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10255/1086909-454.stm

As a City employee, I regularly think, "I better stay on the straight and narrow, because once I stray my T1B homies will dog me..." :wink:

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:06 am
by Screw_Michigan
21+? Jesus jumping Christ. Let this be a lesson. Of course it won't.

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:46 am
by LTS TRN 2
88 wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:While the perfect storm of factors that made Cleveland the ideal mafia town are being slowly processed in the ridiculous number of indictments in what is the most entrenched system of organized crime in this country, the real scandal of the buckeye state has seemingly evaporated--that of the 2004 attorney general J. Kenneth Blackwell having facilitated the biggest voter fraud in American history. Sure, ring up Russo ( :D ) but don't pretend to have gained any ground on the real fiends.
Russo paid a guy $10,000 to register as a Republican and oppose him for the office of Auditor. The guy did so, and won the uncontested Republican primary (there aren't many Republicans in Cuyahoga County, yo). The day after the party could replace him on the ballot, he withdrew from the race, leaving Russon unopposed in the general election. Russo then hired the guy to a job in the Auditor's office at a salary that was $10,000 higher than his boss received. Why did Russo do this? Who the fuck knows? He would have won if Ronald Reagan ran against him in Cuyahoga County. But he did it. He admitted that he did it. And he's going to do 21+ in the federal pen starting in April of 2011.

Now, what was it you said Blackwell did? Maybe some facts would help your case. But you have none. So just keep bleeting.
Are you a total drunk?

Look--Russo is a classic scumbag. So what? if you knew anything about Cleveland organized crime, etc., this would be no big deal, except for the news of he and his homies being rung up. But..no one's bleating about Cleveland crime. Rather, I'm pointing out that the HUGE all-time disgrace of American politics occurred by way of Kenneth Blackwell in completely rigging the 2004 presidential election. And it's gone by the boards. DO you really suppose the Chimp legitimately won the 2004 election? How about the 2000 fiasco? C'mon, defend your wet spot mind.

Start with this..

IN mid-August [2003], Walden W. O'Dell, the chief executive of Diebold Inc., sat down at his computer to compose a letter inviting 100 wealthy and politically inclined friends to a Republican Party fund-raiser, to be held at his home in a suburb of Columbus, Ohio. ''I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year,'' wrote Mr. O'Dell, whose company is based in Canton, Ohio.

And as the evidence makes clear, this is exactly what followed.

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:51 pm
by smackaholic
Can we get a link to all this "evidence"?

The fact that the president of the company making the machines is not evidence. And seems to me that if he was at the head of some sort of diabolical plan, he would lay pretty low and not speak up at rep fundraisers.

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:01 pm
by LTS TRN 2
No problem, smakie, it's all right here. Read it and attempt to dispute whatever you like. But breezy dismissals don't count. :wink:

http://www.truth-out.org/article/robert ... ion-stolen

Robert Kennedy Jr. has compiled a detailed report on exactly where and how this astonishing fraud was carried out. And as you'll see, it comes back again and again to Kenneth Blackwell, who as a GOP attorney general serves as the hinge for a variety of the sleights and slimes.

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:06 am
by R-Jack
LTS TRN 2 wrote:attempt to dispute whatever you like. But breezy dismissals don't count. :wink:
Breezy dismissals count when your link can't even get though the first sentance without telling a boldface lie.
I spent the evening of the 2004 election watching the returns on television and wondering how the exit polls, which predicted an overwhelming victory for John Kerry, had gotten it so wrong.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/ ... lls.0.html

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:30 am
by War Wagon
88 wrote: A swing and a miss for you, as usual.
Excellent

I've found that all things in life can be adequately expressed in baseball terminology.

The only time LTS ever reached 1st base in little league was HBP and then was promptly picked off.

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:21 am
by LTS TRN 2
No, wags, what we've got is a case of Arnold Rothstein stealing the World Series. 'Cept this time he got away with it. So far.

Oh, excuse, me, you've got Farhad Manjoo cruising through the host of galling 2004 election discrepancies with breezy dismissals. His shrugging off of the exit polls is particularly disingenuous. None of his explanations in fact stand up. As to who paid him--or why there was such a suspicious lack of media and congressional investigation--after both 2004 and the previous abomination of 2000 in Florida--this remains a mystery.

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:32 am
by War Wagon
Is there a conspiracy theory you haven't embraced yet?

Paranoid and delusional is no way to go thru life, son.

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:44 am
by LTS TRN 2
Is there some spoon fed Official Story that you aren't willing to passively accept?

Take a quick test...which of these Official Versions do you actually accept?

--The Warren Commission Report
--The Martin Luther King assassination
--The Tonkin Bay attack
--The 9/11 Commission Report

Okay, I'm willing to guess that you dutifully accept each of these Official Versions.

And...you're making playground taunts at whom?

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:03 pm
by FLW Buckeye
Who are you trying to kid?

Your short list of conspiracy theories is closer to 10x the size of that list. But your constant handwringing keeps several tinfoil hat makers employed, so at least you've got that going for you. :meds:

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:57 pm
by Bobby42
"Cleveland" a film by Martin Scorsese.

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:04 pm
by PSUFAN
Breezy dismissals
That's what I like to call Christine O'Donnell's queefs after I am done cavepainting my load onto the back wall of her cervix.

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:41 pm
by LTS TRN 2
Uh...you're up for sloppy seconds, pal....the sow is mine!
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Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:44 pm
by The Seer
Cleveland will always be Chicago's bitch.

Re: Corruption in Cleveland

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:22 am
by Screw_Michigan
The Seer wrote:Cleveland will always be Chicago's bitch.
Great take there, Marcus. What else you got in your Rolodex, Boston-Hartford smack?