Your 2011 Preseason Rankings

[Dinsdale]

Let's hear them...

and since recruiting isn't even in full force, and players haven't declared yet, then it stands to reason you can put any school at any rank, and there are no wrong answers.

For my #1, it seems obvious...





#1: Sisters of the Poor
Sure, they got little respect this season, but their image is improving. And with 44 returning 12th year seniors (we all know the Poor have bad graduation rates), look for them to surprise.


#2 The Fuck If I Knows
But I guess since I started the thread, I should come up with something. Due to returning players, I'll go with Bama.

#3 Oregon
Less losses at crucial positions than the other high ranked teams. Auburn loses Knewnothing and Fairley Decent, and they won't be the same.

#4 Stanford
Seems like they lose less than Most

#5 Boise St
They return like 27 starters, must count for something

#6 Oklahomo
They always find new douchebags to keep the cannon loaded.

#7 Nebraska
OK, I don't really believe that, but just wanted to send an FU to the B10/11/12/Whateverthefucktheyare, and what better way to do it.



OK, that's I'll I got for now.

[Q, West Coast Style]

1. Oregon
2. Stanford
3. Alabama
4. Oklahoma
5. LSU
6. Boise State
7. Nebraska

After that I have no idea.

[Q, West Coast Style]

BTW Oregon and LSU are doing the BCS a HUGE favor by playing each other. The loser of that game becomes a valuable spoiler to take out either Stanford or Alabama.

[SunCoastSooner]

1. Oklahoma
2. LSU
3. Oregon
4. Boise State
5. Oklahoma State
6. Wisconsin
7. Alabama
8. Texas A&M
9. Florida State
10. TCU

[Q, West Coast Style]

1. Oklahoma
2. LSU
3. Oregon
4. Boise State
5. Oklahoma State
6. Wisconsin
7. Alabama
8. Texas A&M
9. Florida State
10. TCU

You did hear Andrew Luck is coming back, right?

[SunCoastSooner]

1. Oklahoma
2. LSU
3. Oregon
4. Boise State
5. Oklahoma State
6. Wisconsin
7. Alabama
8. Texas A&M
9. Florida State
10. TCU

You did hear Andrew Luck is coming back, right?

You did hear Harbaugh is leaving right?

[TheJON]

1.Iowa
2-119. Who gives a shit?

[Q, West Coast Style]

1. Oklahoma
2. LSU
3. Oregon
4. Boise State
5. Oklahoma State
6. Wisconsin
7. Alabama
8. Texas A&M
9. Florida State
10. TCU

You did hear Andrew Luck is coming back, right?

You did hear Harbaugh is leaving right?

Won't be felt in the first year.

Sincerely,
2003 Holiday Bowl and 2008 Fiesta Bowl

[Goober McTuber]

1. Oklahoma
2. LSU
3. Oregon
4. Boise State
5. Oklahoma State
6. Wisconsin
7. Alabama
8. Texas A&M
9. Florida State
10. TCU

Wisconsin’s losing too many key players. They don’t belong in the top 10.

[Dinsdale]

1. Oregon

Bless you, my brother.

But while many of the skill positions stay intact (well, at least DT and LaMike), lotta seniors at the O-line. On the plus side, Chipper does a great job of getting every OLman on the roster in the game getting reps, which may be the saving grace.

DJ Davis (didn't get many catches, but his outstanding downfield blocking was crucial to many of the long plays)... gone.

Jeff Maehl... gone (outside chance at a Sunday job)

Casey Matthews... gone.

Spence Paysinger, Casey's right-hand man for the last 4 years... gone.

Huge losses... but enough stays to keep the machine running.

Either way, I don't see anyone keeping U of O from another PAC title (barring some championship game tragedy... except I believe it will be at Autzen, which severely reduces the chances for a CCG tragedy).

Bring it on.

And if Auburn barely squeaked by Oregon... uhm, good luck LSU. Better find some offense this summer.

[Dinsdale]

1. Oklahoma

1.Iowa

This is what I was going for.

Right on.

2-119. Who gives a shit?

We give a shit.

Sin,
Georgia St, FBS School #120

[OUMO]

Vegas has OU at 5 to 1 odds to win the title and that was the highest, but I have seen that before.

[Dinsdale]

2 Stanford
3 Oregon

So, after getting their ass handed to them by Oregon in epic fashion, and losing their coach, and losing their second best player (who plays two-ways), you're ranking Furd ahead of Oregon?

Starting to see why your almost universally mocked here, JSEC?

I'll give you a hint -- it has to do with your intelligence.

[Dinsdale]

Total SECBSH who has exhibited a complete lack of any sort of logic just admonished another SECBSH for failing to use logic?


I don't think you realize how entertaining you are of late, SS.


And not laughing with you.

[Mikey]

2 Stanford
3 Oregon

So, after getting their ass handed to them by Oregon in epic fashion, and losing their coach, and losing their second best player (who plays two-ways), you're ranking Furd ahead of Oregon?

Starting to see why your almost universally mocked here, JSEC?

I'll give you a hint -- it has to do with your intelligence.

Stanford is returning most of their defense and the offensive "skill" positions. The OL, which was prolly the team's biggest strength after the 2011 Heisman winner, needs a reload though.

Harbaugh put together an epic coaching staff. Vic Fangio, for one, performed miracles with the defense (excluding the Oregon game, of course). Whoever they get for the HC position, and how many of the ACs stay around will go a long way toward determining the team's potential for next season.

Seems like maybe some people have figured out how to defense Kelly's offensive scheme. Next year's matchup will be interesting.

[Dinsdale]

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Seems like maybe some people have figured out how to defense Kelly's offensive scheme. Next year's matchup will be interesting.

It's been 4 years... what was Furd's excuse, again?


Lost in there is that Chipper has changed it up a little in each of those 4 years.


And I didn't realize that usage of "defense" was actually a verb among people who aren't married to their cousin. You'd think the droolers that use that term would realize the proper word actually has one less letter to type.

[Goober McTuber]

And I didn't realize that usage of "defense" was actually a verb among people who aren't married to their cousin.

I don’t know. I think the tendency to use nouns as verbs is much more common in the white collar demographic.

[Mikey]

Stanford won outscored OU in 2009, BTW.

If Cal can hold them under 20 points, even considering that the game was in Berserkly, I would think that Stanford could with the right game plan.

[Dinsdale]

I would think that Stanford could with the right game plan.

Let's see -- "defense their offensive scheme"...

Now, "I would think that Stanford could [win] with the right game plan."


All that's left is a nonchalant "The team that scores the most points will win this one," and we can get you an interview for an announcer job.

[Dinsdale]

On a related note -- I don't see USC rolling over for everyone like they did this past season.

I hope the Middlins of the PAC lined up some cupcakes for the OOC, otherwise it's unfufilled bowl contracts again. USC kinda fucked that deal up.

[Mikey]

I would think that Stanford could with the right game plan.

Let's see -- "defense their offensive scheme"...

Now, "I would think that Stanford could [win] with the right game plan."


All that's left is a nonchalant "The team that scores the most points will win this one," and we can get you an interview for an announcer job.

Uh, no. Check your reading comprehension. The second sentence referred to holding them under 20 points, in which case Stanford would probably win by 30 or more.

[Mikey]

And I didn't realize that usage of "defense" was actually a verb among people who aren't married to their cousin. You'd think the droolers that use that term would realize the proper word actually has one less letter to type.

Funny, I never realized that Mr. Webster had married his cousin.

Main Entry: defense
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): -ed/-ing/-s
Etymology: Middle English defensen, from Middle French defenser, from Latin defensare, from defensus, past participle of defendere to defend -- more at DEFEND
1 obsolete : to furnish with defenses : FORTIFY
2 a : to impede the progress of (the football player or team in possession of the ball) <he was thoroughly defensed> b : to break up or defend against (a particular play) <defense the single wing running pass>

Citation format for this entry:

"defense." Webster's Third New International Dictionary, Unabridged. Merriam-Webster, 2002. http://unabridged.merriam-webster.com (12 Jan. 2011).

Oh, and BTW, if you were to use "defend" instead of "defense" you'd need to add "against" or the statement would have pretty much the opposite meaning. So, your "one less letter" comment has been completely bogused.

[indyfrisco]

Fred Durst would be in agreeance with you Mikey.

[Goober McTuber]

And I didn't realize that usage of "defense" was actually a verb among people who aren't married to their cousin.

I think people who are married to their cousin often use "defense" as an adjective. As in defense attorney.

[Dinsdale]

Whoever they get for the HC position

Coming after Riley at the moment.

Don't really see it happening, but worth a shot.

[SunCoastSooner]

If I didn't expect an Oklahoma national title with what we have and what and we have returning would I deserve to to post here???

[H4ever]

If I didn't expect an Oklahoma national title with what we have and what and we have returning would I deserve to to post here???

Oklahoma=Cal
SCS=M2
________

Oklahoma has won 12 consecutive titles


On a serious note....I expect OU to be one bad-assed team in '11. Wouldn't surprise me a bit to see them in the BCS title game.

[SunCoastSooner]

Stanford won outscored OU in 2009, BTW.

Weird, last time I checked the 2009 Sun Bowl trophy was in Norman, not Palo Alto. The only place that Stanford even seemed close was the scoreboard; Oklahoma out gained them by 215 yards, converted 50% of their third downs compared to the 1 out of 12 that Stanford converted, and Ronnell Lewis knocked Toby Gerhart the fuck out. If not for poor kick coverage in the first half and penalties Stanford doesn't even look competitive on the scoreboard with Oklahoma at the 2009 Sun Bowl.

If I didn't expect an Oklahoma national title with what we have and what and we have returning would I deserve to to post here???

Oklahoma=Cal
SCS=M2

Complete homerism to even have the notion that my alma mater who went 12-2, won an AQ conference, and won a BCS bowl last season with 18 returning full time starters could even be competitive for a national title.

Other than the 18 returning full time starters we have 11 other kids coming back who have starting experience; out of a 44 man two deep we are losing a grand total of six players from the depth chart.

OU almost certainly has to be considered the best receiving corp in the nation coming into the 2011 season; Ryan Broyles (a Blientkoff finalist), Kenny Stills (who many think might be more talented than Broyles from what he showed last season as a freshman), Dejuan MIller (who was the most clutch receiver for the team before his injury half way through the season), Trey Franks (was a stud as a freshman last year), plus a lot of depth players, and everybody's high school All Americans Trey Metoyer and Danzell Williams. Austin Heywood has been mentioned in the same breath as Jermaine Gresham and Keith Jackson; Ratteree and Hanna are both back as well. 90% of the programs in college football would kill to have a Landry Jones at QB. Offensive line returns all but one player off the two deep and he was a converted TE. Trey MIllard is easily the biggest running threat of the entire Stoops era at fullback and is a damn good blocker already. Lose DeMarco Murray at TB which I don't want to down play too much with his list of accomplishments but half the Sooner Nation was screaming for Roy Finch to be made the #1 TB down the home stretch and as I mentioned in another thread may be the most talented runner not named Adrian Peterson since Stoops came to Norman and that's some pretty hefty praise; Brennan Clay showed flashes of greatness as a freshman as well, Jeremy Miller returns to the team healthy and he looked pretty damn good when he saw the field in '09, Calhoun was a #2 RB in the country coming out of high school, and the transfer Wehger is supposedly immediately eligible.

Defensively losing Beal hurts a bit as I don't think anyone except maybe Ronnell Lewis is as talented as Beal and Lewis only has half a season under his belt at the position; between Lewis, King, Alexander, and Washington I expect a very strong rotation there. At DT we are thin but talented and have been playing more three down lineman sets since the first couple of games last season. Linebacker we are absolutely loaded, four different guys with extensive starting experience including Travis Lewis, who is probably one of the best 5 LBers in the country coming back in 2011 season and a plethora of depth. Defensive backfield only loses Q. Carter.

I really think that position by position the '11 season team might be the most talented overall team in the Stoops era. There isn't a single position on the field where we don't have multiple players with experience and talent. If you're a Sooner and you don't have visions of Crystal balls dancing around in your dreams at night in anticipation of next season then you're just a bad person IMHO. I might be setting myself up for another huge let down ala the injury riddled '09 season but right now at this moment I have to believe that '11 is the year of the Crimson and Cream Machine.

[Goober McTuber]

Media picking OU #1? Again? Color me fucking surprised.

I guess that "BCS" (bwaahahahahahaha) win over that fucking high school scored them even more.

I think SCS makes a pretty good case for Oklahoma. Wisky had 18 returning starters this year. That's huge. Who looks better to you? Allbarn? They lost half their team just at the QB position.

[Goober McTuber]

Media picking OU #1? Again? Color me fucking surprised.

I guess that "BCS" (bwaahahahahahaha) win over that fucking high school scored them even more.

I think SCS makes a pretty good case for Oklahoma. Wisky had 18 returning starters this year. That's huge. Who looks better to you? Allbarn? They lost half their team just at the QB position.

Dude - since you're as old as time, YOU should know how often teams like OU, Texas & Ohio State are over-ranked. Don't you remember this season's first BCS poll? Remember who they had as #1? Biggest fucking joke I've seen in years.

Doesn't matter if they secretly replace all of their players with the Steelers, Stoops can't win a big game anymore.

PS: Auburn started off exactly last year where they have them this year. That worked out pretty good, eh?

Regardless of what happened in any year past, 18 returning starters is significant. It doesn’t happen that often for any program, and when it happens to a perennially strong program, well, that’s a prime candidate for #1.

You’re really fat, but it’s not ALL located above your neck. Realize that you won your one national championship that you’re going to get in your lifetime, and that just like your kids, it’s going to get taken away from you.

[Mikey]

Stanford won outscored OU in 2009, BTW.

Weird, last time I checked the 2009 Sun Bowl trophy was in Norman, not Palo Alto.

Guess I meant UO

All these fucking Os and Us have got my damn head spinning.

[Killian]

Doesn't matter if they secretly replace all of their players with the Steelers, Stoops can't win a big game anymore.

This drives me up a fucking wall. What constitutes a big game? Games against rivals? Bowl games? Games against ranked teams? Or is it just MNC games?

The guy has gotten his team to more MNC games than any other coach around; I would say he can still win a “big game”. But the media loves to harp on stupid shit and they basically define big games by the ones you lose.

[indyfrisco]

Doesn't matter if they secretly replace all of their players with the Steelers, Stoops can't win a big game anymore.

This drives me up a fucking wall. What constitutes a big game? Games against rivals? Bowl games? Games against ranked teams? Or is it just MNC games?

The guy has gotten his team to more MNC games than any other coach around; I would say he can still win a “big game”. But the media loves to harp on stupid shit and they basically define big games by the ones you lose.

Rack!

I'd give my left nut to have Stoops as our coach or a coach that has had his kind of success. Oc course, I'm done having kids, but I still like my left nut.

[SunCoastSooner]

Doesn't matter if they secretly replace all of their players with the Steelers, Stoops can't win a big game anymore.

Jesus you people regurgitate this shit like it is even remotely accurate... Stoops is 24-8 over his career against teams ranked in the top ten. He's 42-18 against teams in the top 25. I'm pretty sure there were some pretty big games, by anyones definition, scattered in those 24 victories over top 10 teams and probably a couple more in the 42 over top 25 opponents. Two years ago when Oklahoma wasn't even ranked and had to play top ten ranked Oklahoma State was meaningless since Bob led his team to the dominating 27-0 victory. In 2008 when Oklahoma had to play #2 in the BCS poll Texas Tech and win to ensure a tie in the south was pretty well meaningless but only meaningless after Oklahoma throttled them by 44 points. The very next game against 10th ranked in the BCS Oklahoma State on the road didn't really qualify as big either but we all know why, because Bob coached his team to a victory. The two games against top 10 Missouri the season previous to that (including them being ranked #1 in the BCS in the conference title game) by a combined 31 points and being the only team in the country able to beat them that season, to include their utter ass raping of some team from the SEC team by 31 in the Cotton Bowl, didn't really mean didly squat... I mean those sort of games only matter when Oklahoma loses to hear it told by every other idiot in the country.

[SunCoastSooner]

Stanford won outscored OU in 2009, BTW.

Weird, last time I checked the 2009 Sun Bowl trophy was in Norman, not Palo Alto.

Guess I meant UO

All these fucking Os and Us have got my damn head spinning.

It's cool, I wouldn't expect anyone to recall a game where an unranked Oklahoma sent a top 15 ranked opponent packing with a decisive loss in bowl game. Bob Stoops isn't supposed to be able to win those sort of games anymore, just ask papa ass spray and he'll tell ya about it. :wink:

[SunCoastSooner]

Doesn't matter if they secretly replace all of their players with the Steelers, Stoops can't win a big game anymore.

This drives me up a fucking wall. What constitutes a big game? Games against rivals? Bowl games? Games against ranked teams? Or is it just MNC games?

The guy has gotten his team to more MNC games than any other coach around; I would say he can still win a “big game”. But the media loves to harp on stupid shit and they basically define big games by the ones you lose.

Rack!!!

Couldn't have said it better. I don't need to throw his record against ranked teams out there again. He also has a winning record against all our traditional rivals; 7-5 against perennially top ten ranked Texas, 6-2 against Nebraska (some of those great Nebraska teams, some not so much), 10-2 against perennially top 25 Oklahoma State, and 7-1 against Missouri whose program has been in the top 10 three of those games (including a conference title match up where they were #1 in the BCS and playing for a chance to get to the National title game) and ranked in top 25 three other times; hell there is a pretty valid argument that outside of Texas our match ups with Missouri have been the most important games on our schedule from a year to year standpoint when they appear there.

[Mikey]

It's cool, I wouldn't expect anyone to recall a game where an unranked Oklahoma sent a top 15 ranked opponent packing with a decisive loss in bowl game. Bob Stoops isn't supposed to be able to win those sort of games anymore, just ask papa ass spray and he'll tell ya about it. :wink:

The fact that your opponent's starting QB (some freshman named Luck who was the PAC10's highest rated QB), who hadn't missed a game all season up to that point, was not able to play might (and I'm only saying might here) have had a material effect on the outcome.

[King Crimson]

It's cool, I wouldn't expect anyone to recall a game where an unranked Oklahoma sent a top 15 ranked opponent packing with a decisive loss in bowl game. Bob Stoops isn't supposed to be able to win those sort of games anymore, just ask papa ass spray and he'll tell ya about it. :wink:

The fact that your opponent's starting QB (some freshman named Luck who was the PAC10's highest rated QB), who hadn't missed a game all season up to that point, was not able to play might (and I'm only saying might here) have had a material effect on the outcome.

it's a possibility. but, you are going to tell OU fan about missing a QB or injury in 2009? :D

[Killian]

So you want to set up some arbitrary, bullshit criteria and then throw out a data point that goes against said arbitrary, bullshit criteria? Noted.

[Mikey]

It's cool, I wouldn't expect anyone to recall a game where an unranked Oklahoma sent a top 15 ranked opponent packing with a decisive loss in bowl game. Bob Stoops isn't supposed to be able to win those sort of games anymore, just ask papa ass spray and he'll tell ya about it. :wink:

The fact that your opponent's starting QB (some freshman named Luck who was the PAC10's highest rated QB), who hadn't missed a game all season up to that point, was not able to play might (and I'm only saying might here) have had a material effect on the outcome.

it's a possibility. but, you are going to tell OU fan about missing a QB or injury in 2009? :D

Well yeah, but OU's QB got injured in the first game of the season. At least the next guy had time to get used to being first string. Luck got injured in the last game of the season.

I'm just hoping that Luck doesn't follow in Bradford's footsteps in his redshirt junior season.