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Ballot Fraud Investigation Muddies North Carolina Election

Allegations of flagrant absentee ballot fraud in a North Carolina district have thrown the Election Day results of one of the nation's last unresolved midterm congressional races into question.

Unofficial ballot totals showed Republican Mark Harris ahead of Democrat Dan McCready by 905 votes in the 9th Congressional District. But the state elections board refused to certify the results last week in view of "claims of numerous irregularities and concerted fraudulent activities" involving mail-in ballots in the district.

The elections board has subpoenaed documents from the Harris campaign, a campaign attorney confirmed Tuesday. Investigators seem to be concentrating on activities linked to a longtime political operative from Bladen County, where allegations about mail-in absentee ballots also surfaced two years ago during a tight election for governor.

In affidavits offered by the state Democratic Party, voters described a woman coming to their homes to collect their absentee ballots, whether or not they had been completed properly. State law bars this kind of "harvesting" of absentee ballots, which must be submitted by mail or in person by the voter or a close family member.

If the allegations are accurate, "this is the biggest absentee fraud in a generation or two in North Carolina," said Gerry Cohen, an election law expert and former longtime legislative staff attorney. "North Carolina has a long history of this kind of thing, particularly in rural areas."

Concerns about voter harvesting worried state election officials so much that they sent a letter to every Bladen County address where a voter requested a mail-in ballot asking the voter to call them if someone else tried take the ballot or fill it out.
"Elections officials will never come to your house to pick up your absentee ballot or tell you how to vote," the letter warned.

Papa Willie wrote:Wow. I reckon it’s pretty safe to say that it happens on both sides of the aisle?

Screw_Michigan wrote:

Papa Willie wrote:Wow. I reckon it’s pretty safe to say that it happens on both sides of the aisle?

Nope

Mikey wrote:Do you think it should be mandatory for all employers to give their employees time off to go and vote?

smackaholic wrote: And, yes, screwey, we are talking bipartisan voter fraud.

smackaholic wrote:

Mikey wrote:Do you think it should be mandatory for all employers to give their employees time off to go and vote?

I think voting should be extended to multiple days, no more than 3. This should address this issue.

Mikey wrote:
How would that address the issue? If you can't get time off on Monday, why would you assume that you can get time off on Tuesday or Wednesday?

Also, you would then have to keep ALL of the polls open for three days instead of one. Who do you think works at the polls? Around here it's all volunteers taking time off to do it, and a lot of them don't wrap up until midnight or so after having to deal with the process of handling the ballots.

Screw_Michigan wrote:

smackaholic wrote: And, yes, screwey, we are talking bipartisan voter fraud.

Link?

smackaholic wrote:Exactly.

This absentee ballots for everyone bullshit needs to end.

Absentee ballots should be for miltary stationed away from their home state. Actually, you might even argue that if they are stationed elsewhere, let them vote there. Anyone else should need to show a pretty damn convincing reason to get one.

Everyone else should show up at a poll place, with a valid picture ID. And to states that issue IDs to aliens, legal or illegal, it should be clearly marked ALIEN which means you don't vote....in federal elections anyway. I don't see a problem with legal aliens voting locally. That decision should be left up to the constituents of said governments.

Mikey wrote:Do you think it should be mandatory for all employers to give their employees time off to go and vote?

Screw_Michigan wrote:

Mikey wrote:
How would that address the issue? If you can't get time off on Monday, why would you assume that you can get time off on Tuesday or Wednesday?

Also, you would then have to keep ALL of the polls open for three days instead of one. Who do you think works at the polls? Around here it's all volunteers taking time off to do it, and a lot of them don't wrap up until midnight or so after having to deal with the process of handling the ballots.

Stop having a good faith argument with him on this. He is not interested in making it easier for people to vote. Period.

smackaholic wrote:
Mikey actually is attempting a good faith argument. You, with your claim that voter fraud is not bipartisan, are not.

Mikey wrote:Both parties were cheating in NC. That's why both Republicans and Democrats pushing for non-partisan control of election boards.

Oh wait...

https://www.salon.com/2018/12/06/north- ... ouse-race/

Papa Willie wrote:

Mikey wrote:Both parties were cheating in NC. That's why both Republicans and Democrats pushing for non-partisan control of election boards.

Oh wait...

https://www.salon.com/2018/12/06/north- ... ouse-race/

JFC, Mikey. Are you seriously quoting Salon? Why don't you just quote the dribble off of your nub?

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/salon/

Factual Reporting: HIGH

Papa Willie wrote:

Papa Willie wrote:

Screw_Michigan wrote:

smackaholic wrote:
Mikey actually is attempting a good faith argument. You, with your claim that voter fraud is not bipartisan, are not.

Where's your proof of this bipartisan voter fraud? We'll wait.

smackaholic wrote:

Screw_Michigan wrote:

smackaholic wrote:
Mikey actually is attempting a good faith argument. You, with your claim that voter fraud is not bipartisan, are not.

Where's your proof of this bipartisan voter fraud? We'll wait.

No prof us needed, dumbfukk. It’s human nature. People will try to take advantage if any system. Therefore, putting measures in effect to at least make it hard to cheat are worthwhile.

Absentee ballots should be limited to those that can show a need. Photo IDs should be mandatory. And employers should be required to give time off if it can be shown that not doing so would deny someone the right to vote.


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Goober McTuber wrote:
Yeah, he got beat not because voters rejected his policies, but because he "reformed himself out of a job".

What a fucking toolbox.

Kierland wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote:
Yeah, he got beat not because voters rejected his policies, but because he "reformed himself out of a job".

What a fucking toolbox.

And now they are taking power from the new D governor because well, they love democracy.

Papa Willie wrote: Again, there’s corruption on both sides. If you can’t admit that, then you need to blow your fucking brains out immediately.

Mikey wrote: But in a lot of states you’ve got Republicans fighting tooth and nail to reduce the hours and numbers of polling places.

Goober McTuber wrote:

Kierland wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote:
Yeah, he got beat not because voters rejected his policies, but because he "reformed himself out of a job".

What a fucking toolbox.

And now they are taking power from the new D governor because well, they love democracy.

They love democracy so much, they fixed it so that Democrats could get 54% of the votes for the state legislature in order to win a third of the seats.

smackaholic wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote:

Kierland wrote:And now they are taking power from the new D governor because well, they love democracy.

They love democracy so much, they fixed it so that Democrats could get 54% of the votes for the state legislature in order to win a third of the seats.

Nothing is fixed dumbass. Suburban and rural districts tend to run slight Republican majorities. Urban districts run heavily democrat. Sometimes over 90%.

This is how Hillary got her clock cleaned electorally, despite winning the popular vote. I am certain it explains the Wisconsin situation as well.

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Papa Willie wrote:

Screw_Michigan wrote:Project Veritas? Get real.

Why not? You fags are quoting Mother Jones & fucking Salon. Wanna guess how they check out? We've done Salon, so:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/mother-jones/

Diego in Seattle wrote:
The GOP just can't win w/o cheating.

A bitter elf often wrote:If you're not cheating, you're not trying.