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A New and Positive Twist on States' Rights

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:09 pm
by Mikey

Re: A New and Positive Twist on States' Rights

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:21 pm
by smackaholic
Good to see you embracing the idea of federalism. Not sure all your filthy hippy commie pals are gonna approve though.

Different states should handle this differently. Hell, same for counties.

A rural county in upstate NY needs a different plan of action than Brooklyn.

While you guys are in the federalist spirit, I suggest Gavin should announce plans for Cali single-payer healfcare.

Show us bumpkins to the East how it’s done.


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Re: A New and Positive Twist on States' Rights

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:23 pm
by Innocent Bystander
So Newsome is the predicted Anti-Christ?

What's his background?

Because nation-states are really city-states. Nig.gas, be wary.

Fuck you, China, or thank you China for ripping off the band-aid?

Re: A New and Positive Twist on States' Rights

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:25 pm
by Innocent Bystander
smackaholic wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:21 pm Good to see you embracing the idea of federalism. Not sure all your filthy hippy commie pals are gonna approve though.

Different states should handle this differently. Hell, same for counties.

A rural county in upstate NY needs a different plan of action than Brooklyn.

While you guys are in the federalist spirit, I suggest Gavin should announce plans for Cali single-payer healfcare.

Show us bumpkins to the East how it’s done.
Good arguments, but still wary of the gerrymandering effect.

Re: A New and Positive Twist on States' Rights

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:28 pm
by Mikey
Innocent Bystander wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:25 pm gerrymandering
Brown retired. Newsome is Governor now.

Re: A New and Positive Twist on States' Rights

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:13 pm
by smackaholic
Not sure what gerrymandering has to do with states handling their own affairs.


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Re: A New and Positive Twist on States' Rights

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:22 pm
by Left Seater
CA should secede already.

But the author of this pile of crap is cut from the screwy mold. Claims minority rule by the GOP, a war on Team D ideals, etc.

Just leave already if you don’t like the US. But stop blaming the Feds for this and claiming you would have had a better response. While the pandemic was becoming a thing, you were wrapped up in a bungled Impeachment.

Re: A New and Positive Twist on States' Rights

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:26 pm
by Mikey
You're about as reality challenged as your narcissist Orange Dear Leader.

"if you don't like it here then leave." Nice job.
Can you actually refute anything in that article?



Didn't think so.
Now, go watch some re-runs of the daily Trump Show. That should settle you down.

Re: A New and Positive Twist on States' Rights

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:46 pm
by Innocent Bystander
smackaholic wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:13 pm Not sure what gerrymandering has to do with states handling their own affairs.

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Your point that different counties have different needs within even the same state.

A New and Positive Twist on States' Rights

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:51 pm
by smackaholic
Innocent Bystander wrote:
smackaholic wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:13 pm Not sure what gerrymandering has to do with states handling their own affairs.

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Your point that different counties have different needs within even the same state.
Ok. The same question applies.


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Re: A New and Positive Twist on States' Rights

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:15 pm
by mvscal
Since when is it the responsibility of the Federal government to provide the State of California with medical supplies?

California has all the sovereign authority necessary to raise revenue for the purpose of purchasing medical supplies. I would suggest that California's spending priorities are wildly misguided.

Re: A New and Positive Twist on States' Rights

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:15 am
by Left Seater
Mikey wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:26 pm You're about as reality challenged as your narcissist Orange Dear Leader.

"if you don't like it here then leave." Nice job.
Can you actually refute anything in that article?
Sure. Lots of pure shit in that opinion piece:
So far, the Republican Party’s war on democratic values, institutions and laws
First off their aren’t Democratic Party laws. There are US laws and State laws. Second these Democratic values like murdering unborn babies, allowing illegal aliens to vote, sanctuary cities, etc, etc, etc are illegal and wrong in most cases.
The GOP intends to restrict vote-by-mail and other legitimate enfranchisement to suppress turnout amid fear, uncertainty and disease.
Nice projection and quite sad actually. In fact there have been other opinion pieces by Team D members that are discussing what to do when Trump tries to delay elections. So is Trump going to delay elections or is he trying to railroad them thru in their scheduled time?

At some point this civil war by other means, with the goal of enshrining GOP minority rule,
More Team D bullshit talking points. Is this a reference to Trump losing the general election? If so why does Team D hate the Constitution? If it is a reference to something else, then this fiction writer needs to spell it out.

The federal government is no longer a reliable partner in delivering health care, in supporting immigrants, supporting LGBT people, in protecting the environment, so we need to forge our own path,
The Feds shouldn’t be involved in Health Care. Further this clown is talking about illegal immigrants not getting support, because we bend over backwards for legal immigrants. But by the very definition illegal immigrants don’t deserve our support. Protecting the environment? CA is free to enact whatever they feel necessary, the Feds aren’t stopping that.
the Trump administration’s failure to protect against a pandemic.
Meanwhile in the real world Team D fought Trump trying to put in place travel restrictions and went to the racist card for doing it. Meanwhile if Team D thinks they would have done a better job that is a joke. Team D was focused on Impeachment instead of a growing pandemic. But look no further than NY’s response and failures in containing this. Cuomo said his state needed more ventilators from the Feds, but then when called on it he said they weren’t using the ones in storage as those were being saved. WTF?
The GOP war on democracy is inspired by a drive for racial and cultural supremacy that jeopardizes the democratic aspirations and human rights of California’s multiracial citizenry.
What a crock of shit. Team R could just as easily argue that Team D is waging a war on Democracy. What with their drive to overhaul the 2nd. Or allowing illegal immigrants to vote. Or harboring criminals in their sanctuary cities.

What is the difference, conceptually, between a state deploying its power to protect its population’s health and a state using it to protect its population’s democratic rights?
This cuts both ways. Should states take this stand towards attacks on the 2nd? Or to States protecting their borders with other Nations?
With the heirs of the Confederacy now reigning in Washington,
Team D was the heirs of the Confederacy, so did this guy just have a moment of clarity or is he spinning more fiction?

So yeah this piece of fiction is nothing but shit.

Re: A New and Positive Twist on States' Rights

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:20 am
by Kierland
mvscal wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:15 pm
Since when is it the responsibility of the Federal government to provide the State of California with medical supplies?
It’s not, problem is they take money they say is this kind of event and then piss it away.

Re: A New and Positive Twist on States' Rights

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:22 am
by Left Seater
Thanks for making the smaller Federal Government argument we have been making for years.

Re: A New and Positive Twist on States' Rights

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:24 am
by Kierland
schmick wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:39 pm The state of California already had the medical supplies.
Governor Schwarzenegger had mobile hospitals, millions of masks and thousands of respirators on hand for just this sort of issue.
Its was governor brown and his lt governor newscum that got rid of all that equipment

https://www.politico.com/states/califor ... lt-1269954

brown and newscum thought it was a better idea to build a monorail and waste 25 billion a year on illegal immigrants
Keep lying about the 25bil a year fucktard.
And we had enough ventilators and apparently enough masks because 20,000 people have it so far. That’s .05 percent of the population.
So all the isolation looks to be paying off.

Re: A New and Positive Twist on States' Rights

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:26 am
by Kierland
Left Seater wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:22 am Thanks for making the smaller Federal Government argument we have been making for years.
Who has brought up Wickard and what a bullshit case it is earlier and more often than I have?

Not only are you fat you are also slow.

Re: A New and Positive Twist on States' Rights

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:32 am
by Innocent Bystander
schmick wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:39 pm The state of California already had the medical supplies.
Governor Schwarzenegger had mobile hospitals, millions of masks and thousands of respirators on hand for just this sort of issue.
Its was governor brown and his lt governor newscum that got rid of all that equipment

https://www.politico.com/states/califor ... lt-1269954

brown and newscum thought it was a better idea to build a monorail and waste 25 billion a year on illegal immigrants
How much less would it have cost to maintain it, especially since the Obama administration itself recommended keeping stockpiles.

Re: A New and Positive Twist on States' Rights

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:34 am
by Kierland
I told you a bunch of times why that study is shit.
As for Ca and CV19, again .05% of the population infected, enough ventilators and masks.