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Would like to hear from the lawyers here about the fact that crazy viking shamin fukker's lawyers did not have access to video that makes him look more a simple tresspasser than a blood thirsty violent insurrectionist.

This was a horrible violation of his rights.

He was guilty of tresspassing and questionable wardrobe choices. Every inch of that place was videotaped and I have yet to see him do anything remotely violent.

Were these lefties, Queerland would already be in here screaming about it.

Whoever is responsible for withholding this needs to go to jail for a long time.

As for the dems campaign to shut down Tucker, good luck. You can't hide this shit any more.

McCarthy should make every second of this tape public record.

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:57 am Would like to hear from the lawyers here about the fact that crazy viking shamin fukker's lawyers did not have access to video that makes him look more a simple tresspasser than a blood thirsty violent insurrectionist.

This was a horrible violation of his rights.

He was guilty of tresspassing and questionable wardrobe choices. Every inch of that place was videotaped and I have yet to see him do anything remotely violent.

Were these lefties, Queerland would already be in here screaming about it.

Whoever is responsible for withholding this needs to go to jail for a long time.

Naziholic, everyone who entered the Senate chamber got years in prison. QAnon Shaman included. He was also one of the first in the Capitol. Why do you continue to make excuses for traitors? You are a POS.

How do we know this is a Brady violation other than Tucker’s mouthpiece Naziaholic saying so?
As for the tapes: Your honor I was super nice after I broke into those peoples house. How could I be guilty?

[sarcasm]The US government and the MSM lied to us ?? No way.[/sarcasm]If that guy had dressed up in "drag" instead of some sort of scary "Viking" they would be celebrating his courage.
What a bunch of bull shit.

The capitol police were literally acting as tour guides for Buffalo Man. They could have easily handcuffed him and escorted him out at any time. And why would the DNC kangaroo court not only hide this evidence, but now become quickly reduced to bleating and squealing about ...well what? They can't deny the plain and clear security camera footage. So what's their supposed complaint at all?

Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:20 am How do we know this is a Brady violation other than Tucker’s mouthpiece Naziaholic saying so?
As for the tapes: Your honor I was super nice after I broke into those peoples house. How could I be guilty?

He is guilty of trespassing. If they have footage showing him busting windows or doors or assaulting the Capitol police, then produce them.

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:52 am

Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:20 am How do we know this is a Brady violation other than Tucker’s mouthpiece Naziaholic saying so?
As for the tapes: Your honor I was super nice after I broke into those peoples house. How could I be guilty?

He is guilty of trespassing. If they have footage showing him busting windows or doors or assaulting the Capitol police, then produce them.

So you don’t have anyone but Tucker that says it’s a Brady violation. You do know the traitor plead guilty right? So he thinks he is guilty and you don’t. You’re a hack.
Oh that’s right you only like law and order when it works out for you.

Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:20 am How do we know this is a Brady violation other than Tucker’s mouthpiece Naziaholic saying so?
As for the tapes: Your honor I was super nice after I broke into those peoples house. How could I be guilty?

His behavior inside is irrelevant. You know this as a lawyer (allegedly).

The video is exculpatory evidence and the prosecution was required to hand it over. Shamon dude's lawyer says this is the first he has seen of it. This was a Kangaroo court.

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:06 am McCarthy should make every second of this tape public record.

He could have done that. Yet he chose to only provide Cucker Tarlson with a copy. Why do you think he did that? And how would you have felt if Pelosi had released only a single copy of video to Rachael Maddow?

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:03 am

Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:20 am How do we know this is a Brady violation other than Tucker’s mouthpiece Naziaholic saying so?
As for the tapes: Your honor I was super nice after I broke into those peoples house. How could I be guilty?

His behavior inside is irrelevant. You know this as a lawyer (allegedly).

The video is exculpatory evidence and the prosecution was required to hand it over. Shamon dude's lawyer says this is the first he has seen of it. This was a Kangaroo court.

You have no idea what he even plea to do you.

“His behavior inside was irrelevant and also it’s a shame that his lawyer didn’t see the video of it.”

That not how Brady works.

Again you love law and order…. Sometimes.

smackaholic wrote:He was guilty of tresspassing and questionable wardrobe choices. Every inch of that place was videotaped and I have yet to see him do anything remotely violent.

He wasn't found guilty of performing a violent act(s).


As MS noted, Mr. Shaman pleaded guilty.

He pleaded guilty to... felony obstruction.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58441174

Cuck Carlson videos do not undo his crime.

Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:06 am

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:06 am McCarthy should make every second of this tape public record.

He could have done that. Yet he chose to only provide Cucker Tarlson with a copy. Why do you think he did that? And how would you have felt if Pelosi had released only a single copy of video to Rachael Maddow?

Are you attacking the messenger and the delivery method so you can avoid the topic?

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:31 am

smackaholic wrote:He was guilty of tresspassing and questionable wardrobe choices. Every inch of that place was videotaped and I have yet to see him do anything remotely violent.

He wasn't found guilty of performing a violent act(s).


As MS noted, Mr. Shaman pleaded guilty.

He pleaded guilty to... felony obstruction.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58441174

Cuck Carlson videos do not undo his crime.

So describe what actual "obstruction" he committed? At no point is he seen having the slightest disagreement--let alone pysical dispute--with anyone. And the officers are clearly helping him !!!

Are you just such a mewling bottom-bitch faggot that you can't see straight?

As for Buffalo Man pleading guilty, they feds obviously scared the shit out him with all sorts of threats. But whewre is any evidence of anything beyond trespassing--and even that is questionable. He should be released immediately.

You didn’t ready his sentencing statement did you? Facts don’t penetrate your myopia do they?

LTS wrote:So describe what actual "obstruction" he committed? At no point is he seen having the slightest disagreement--let alone pysical dispute--with anyone. And the officers are clearly helping him !!!

Your very clear mistake is in thinking that you are getting news from Cuck Carlson.


Cuck's video does not comprehensively show the actions of Mr. Shaman on that day.

In pleading guilty to felony obstruction, Mr. Shaman AGREED that if his case were to go to trial, the government would prove the following facts beyond a reasonable doubt...


Chansley entered the Capitol through a door other rioters had broken open. He was among the first 30 rioters inside the building.

Chansley and other rioters went to the second floor of the Senate side of the building and "were met by a line of U.S. Capitol Police officers, instructing them to peacefully leave the building." Chansley challenged U.S. Capitol Police Officer Keith Robishaw "to let them pass." Chansley ultimately used "his bullhorn to rile up the crowd and demand that lawmakers be brought out."

Chansley went to the third floor, entered the Senate Gallery and "proceeded to scream obscenities in the Gallery," as other rioters entered the Senate chamber below.

Chansley next tried to gain entry to the Senate floor and again encountered Robishaw, "who once again asked him to leave the building." Chansley said others were on the Senate floor and he was going to join them; the officer followed him.

Chansley climbed the Senate dais and sat in then-Vice President Mike Pence’s seat, taking pictures of himself. Despite repeated requests from Robishaw, Chansley refused to vacate the seat. "Mike Pence is a f- - -ing traitor," he said.

Just after 3 p.m., "other law enforcement officers arrived to support (Robishaw) and cleared the defendant and other rioters from the chamber."

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... ut-capito/




Felony obstruction.


Putting trust in Cuck Carlson is nearly as stupid as putting trust in Don Dump.




#liars

Pure bottom bitch faggotry from the bottemest of them all.

There's no explanation by Bottom Bitch (his new nic) that Buffalo Man was in any way threatening to anyone. The capitol officers are clearly seen on extensive and thorough video record has ASSISTING Buffalo Man in his tour of the senate chamber--even going as far as to attempt to open locked doors for him.

And does Bottom Bitch have any explanation for this obvious set up trickery? Of course not. It would just as soon explain why a compass works on a "flat earth," or why it somehow isn't possible to find the edge of this "flat earth."

Buffalo Man and all the others should be released immediately--and you can be damn sure a thousand lawsuits are on the way.

Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:58 am

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:52 am

Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:20 am How do we know this is a Brady violation other than Tucker’s mouthpiece Naziaholic saying so?
As for the tapes: Your honor I was super nice after I broke into those peoples house. How could I be guilty?

He is guilty of trespassing. If they have footage showing him busting windows or doors or assaulting the Capitol police, then produce them.

So you don’t have anyone but Tucker that says it’s a Brady violation. You do know the traitor plead guilty right? So he thinks he is guilty and you don’t. You’re a hack.
Oh that’s right you only like law and order when it works out for you.

He plead guilty because he did not have access to video tape that would have painted a different story. The prosecution trampled his rights.

The fact that you aren't bothered by this shows you don't give the slightest of fukks about his legal rights.

I'll admit I had a small expectation that the lawyer in you (allegedly) would take over from the political hack, but that was slilly of me.

Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:06 am

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:06 am McCarthy should make every second of this tape public record.

He could have done that. Yet he chose to only provide Cucker Tarlson with a copy. Why do you think he did that? And how would you have felt if Pelosi had released only a single copy of video to Rachael Maddow?

Pelosi had 2 years to release everything. She purposely released only the video that made the "insurrectionists" look bad. And she withheld video from Q Shamin's lawyer. That should get her thrown out of congress as it is proof she doesn't give the slightest of fukks about following law.

This fukking witch hunt has been a travesty right from the start. First we have the sham hearings where Pelosi would not allow Republicans who didn't hate Trump to participate.

Would really like to hear Chip's take.

He is solidly in the TDS camp, but, generally seems to be a decent human and I'd like to think does have a respect for the law.

Naziaholic taking marching orders from Cucker Carlson and standing up for traitors. Which I could say I was surprised.

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:28 am

LTS wrote:So describe what actual "obstruction" he committed? At no point is he seen having the slightest disagreement--let alone pysical dispute--with anyone. And the officers are clearly helping him !!!

Your very clear mistake is in thinking that you are getting news from Cuck Carlson.


Cuck's video does not comprehensively show the actions of Mr. Shaman on that day.

In pleading guilty to felony obstruction, Mr. Shaman AGREED that if his case were to go to trial, the government would prove the following facts beyond a reasonable doubt...


Chansley entered the Capitol through a door other rioters had broken open. He was among the first 30 rioters inside the building.

Chansley and other rioters went to the second floor of the Senate side of the building and "were met by a line of U.S. Capitol Police officers, instructing them to peacefully leave the building." Chansley challenged U.S. Capitol Police Officer Keith Robishaw "to let them pass." Chansley ultimately used "his bullhorn to rile up the crowd and demand that lawmakers be brought out."

Chansley went to the third floor, entered the Senate Gallery and "proceeded to scream obscenities in the Gallery," as other rioters entered the Senate chamber below.

Chansley next tried to gain entry to the Senate floor and again encountered Robishaw, "who once again asked him to leave the building." Chansley said others were on the Senate floor and he was going to join them; the officer followed him.

Chansley climbed the Senate dais and sat in then-Vice President Mike Pence’s seat, taking pictures of himself. Despite repeated requests from Robishaw, Chansley refused to vacate the seat. "Mike Pence is a f- - -ing traitor," he said.

Just after 3 p.m., "other law enforcement officers arrived to support (Robishaw) and cleared the defendant and other rioters from the chamber."

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... ut-capito/




Felony obstruction.


Putting trust in Cuck Carlson is nearly as stupid as putting trust in Don Dump.




#liars

Let's say everything you say is true. It doesn't matter. Dude deserves an honest trial. His attorney should have had access to all of the video.

He didn't.

Yes, he plead guilty, because at that time, the selected video and narrative ensured he'd go up the river much longer if he went to a (witch) trial. Had he had the evidence he was due, that would have changed things.

Pelosi selectively released video that put him in a bad light.

They used selective video to paint the "rioters" as violent.

There was undoubtedly violence that deserves punishment. Anyone who broke a window/door/barricade deserves severe punishment. Anyone who wandered in afterwards should be treated as trespassing dumbfukks.

Yeah, some yelled and dressed like idiots, but we have yet to see videotape of them burning shit, attacking police, etc. We do have videotape of them acting like idiots. But being an idiot does not equal violent insurection.

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:14 am

Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:06 am

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:06 am McCarthy should make every second of this tape public record.

He could have done that. Yet he chose to only provide Cucker Tarlson with a copy. Why do you think he did that? And how would you have felt if Pelosi had released only a single copy of video to Rachael Maddow?

Pelosi had 2 years to release everything. She purposely released only the video that made the "insurrectionists" look bad. And she withheld video from Q Shamin's lawyer. That should get her thrown out of congress as it is proof she doesn't give the slightest of fukks about following law.

This fukking witch hunt has been a travesty right from the start. First we have the sham hearings where Pelosi would not allow Republicans who didn't hate Trump to participate.

Nice whataboutism job to avoid answering the question.

Tell us, was it wrong for prosecutors to not allow Manson family members on Charlie's jury?

Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:58 am

He is guilty of trespassing. If they have footage showing him busting windows or doors or assaulting the Capitol police, then produce them.

So you don’t have anyone but Tucker that says it’s a Brady violation. You do know the traitor plead guilty right? So he thinks he is guilty and you don’t. You’re a hack.
Oh that’s right you only like law and order when it works out for you.

The reaction from your faggot media and SChumer shows how much they hate the first Amendment. How does it feel to follow a bs media narrative lie for two years and then get assfukked by a video proving otherwise?

You and Schumer are squawking and screaming over it because truth buttfukks you. It's like watching a dam busting and two little fags running back and forth, desperately trying to plug the holes. This is what happens when you bend over and swallow lying ass media lies for two years and refuse to listen to any countering evidence. You are now FUKKED just like your libshit cohorts. And I love watching it. The BS narrative is unraveling right before your eyes. Suck on that, bitch! :grin:

General Peters wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:07 pm The reaction from your faggot media and SChumer shows how much they hate the first Amendment.

So as the GOP tramples all over the Establishment Clause you're saying that the left hates the 1st Amendment?

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:52 pm

poptart wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:28 am

LTS wrote:So describe what actual "obstruction" he committed? At no point is he seen having the slightest disagreement--let alone pysical dispute--with anyone. And the officers are clearly helping him !!!

Your very clear mistake is in thinking that you are getting news from Cuck Carlson.


Cuck's video does not comprehensively show the actions of Mr. Shaman on that day.

In pleading guilty to felony obstruction, Mr. Shaman AGREED that if his case were to go to trial, the government would prove the following facts beyond a reasonable doubt...


Chansley entered the Capitol through a door other rioters had broken open. He was among the first 30 rioters inside the building.

Chansley and other rioters went to the second floor of the Senate side of the building and "were met by a line of U.S. Capitol Police officers, instructing them to peacefully leave the building." Chansley challenged U.S. Capitol Police Officer Keith Robishaw "to let them pass." Chansley ultimately used "his bullhorn to rile up the crowd and demand that lawmakers be brought out."

Chansley went to the third floor, entered the Senate Gallery and "proceeded to scream obscenities in the Gallery," as other rioters entered the Senate chamber below.

Chansley next tried to gain entry to the Senate floor and again encountered Robishaw, "who once again asked him to leave the building." Chansley said others were on the Senate floor and he was going to join them; the officer followed him.

Chansley climbed the Senate dais and sat in then-Vice President Mike Pence’s seat, taking pictures of himself. Despite repeated requests from Robishaw, Chansley refused to vacate the seat. "Mike Pence is a f- - -ing traitor," he said.

Just after 3 p.m., "other law enforcement officers arrived to support (Robishaw) and cleared the defendant and other rioters from the chamber."

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... ut-capito/




Felony obstruction.


Putting trust in Cuck Carlson is nearly as stupid as putting trust in Don Dump.




#liars

Let's say everything you say is true. It doesn't matter. Dude deserves an honest trial. His attorney should have had access to all of the video.

He didn't.

Yes, he plead guilty, because at that time, the selected video and narrative ensured he'd go up the river much longer if he went to a (witch) trial. Had he had the evidence he was due, that would have changed things.

I want a fair trial for everyone.

If it could be shown that Mr. Shaman's attorney was denied video that he was entitled to, and such video would likely have resulted in a different outcome for Mr. Shaman, then yes, I would have a problem with that.

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:08 pm

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:52 pm

poptart wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:28 am
Your very clear mistake is in thinking that you are getting news from Cuck Carlson.


Cuck's video does not comprehensively show the actions of Mr. Shaman on that day.

In pleading guilty to felony obstruction, Mr. Shaman AGREED that if his case were to go to trial, the government would prove the following facts beyond a reasonable doubt...


Chansley entered the Capitol through a door other rioters had broken open. He was among the first 30 rioters inside the building.

Chansley and other rioters went to the second floor of the Senate side of the building and "were met by a line of U.S. Capitol Police officers, instructing them to peacefully leave the building." Chansley challenged U.S. Capitol Police Officer Keith Robishaw "to let them pass." Chansley ultimately used "his bullhorn to rile up the crowd and demand that lawmakers be brought out."

Chansley went to the third floor, entered the Senate Gallery and "proceeded to scream obscenities in the Gallery," as other rioters entered the Senate chamber below.

Chansley next tried to gain entry to the Senate floor and again encountered Robishaw, "who once again asked him to leave the building." Chansley said others were on the Senate floor and he was going to join them; the officer followed him.

Chansley climbed the Senate dais and sat in then-Vice President Mike Pence’s seat, taking pictures of himself. Despite repeated requests from Robishaw, Chansley refused to vacate the seat. "Mike Pence is a f- - -ing traitor," he said.

Just after 3 p.m., "other law enforcement officers arrived to support (Robishaw) and cleared the defendant and other rioters from the chamber."

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... ut-capito/




Felony obstruction.


Putting trust in Cuck Carlson is nearly as stupid as putting trust in Don Dump.




#liars

Let's say everything you say is true. It doesn't matter. Dude deserves an honest trial. His attorney should have had access to all of the video.

He didn't.

Yes, he plead guilty, because at that time, the selected video and narrative ensured he'd go up the river much longer if he went to a (witch) trial. Had he had the evidence he was due, that would have changed things.

I want a fair trial for everyone.

If it could be shown that Mr. Shaman's attorney was denied video that he was entitled to, and such video would likely have resulted in a different outcome for Mr. Shaman, then yes, I would have a problem with that.

Same here.

But the video isn't exculpatory evidence, and no appellate court is going to overturn the shaman's convictions.

Jsc810 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:04 am

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:57 am Would like to hear from the lawyers here

I have zero experience in criminal law, although I was the attorney for the Parole Board for three years.

Brady v Maryland enters the chat.

mvscal wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:33 pm

Jsc810 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:04 am

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:57 am Would like to hear from the lawyers here

I have zero experience in criminal law, although I was the attorney for the Parole Board for three years.

Brady v Maryland enters the chat.

Yeah a bunch of posts ago but you’re too yellow to know that. Fuckin snowflakes.

I shudder to think how you leftist squishes would react if there were a REAL insurrection.

This whole 1/6 "riot" or "insurrection" is a complete farce,

I've seen more violent senior picnics.

It was literally a picnic.

Sin,
QTard

Sven Golly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:17 pm I shudder to think how you leftist squishes would react if there were a REAL insurrection.

This whole 1/6 "riot" or "insurrection" is a complete farce,

I've seen more violent senior picnics.

And doesn't everyone take flex-cuffs to picnics?

Hey boo boo I’m gunna get me a pic-a-nic basket!!!

Diego in Seattle wrote:

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:14 am

Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:06 am He could have done that. Yet he chose to only provide Cucker Tarlson with a copy. Why do you think he did that? And how would you have felt if Pelosi had released only a single copy of video to Rachael Maddow?

Pelosi had 2 years to release everything. She purposely released only the video that made the "insurrectionists" look bad. And she withheld video from Q Shamin's lawyer. That should get her thrown out of congress as it is proof she doesn't give the slightest of fukks about following law.

This fukking witch hunt has been a travesty right from the start. First we have the sham hearings where Pelosi would not allow Republicans who didn't hate Trump to participate.

Nice whataboutism job to avoid answering the question.

Tell us, was it wrong for prosecutors to not allow Manson family members on Charlie's jury?

That is easily the stupidest comment I’ve read on this board in a while.

Congrats.


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Softball Bat wrote:

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:52 pm

poptart wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:28 am Your very clear mistake is in thinking that you are getting news from Cuck Carlson.


Cuck's video does not comprehensively show the actions of Mr. Shaman on that day.

In pleading guilty to felony obstruction, Mr. Shaman AGREED that if his case were to go to trial, the government would prove the following facts beyond a reasonable doubt...


Chansley entered the Capitol through a door other rioters had broken open. He was among the first 30 rioters inside the building.

Chansley and other rioters went to the second floor of the Senate side of the building and "were met by a line of U.S. Capitol Police officers, instructing them to peacefully leave the building." Chansley challenged U.S. Capitol Police Officer Keith Robishaw "to let them pass." Chansley ultimately used "his bullhorn to rile up the crowd and demand that lawmakers be brought out."

Chansley went to the third floor, entered the Senate Gallery and "proceeded to scream obscenities in the Gallery," as other rioters entered the Senate chamber below.

Chansley next tried to gain entry to the Senate floor and again encountered Robishaw, "who once again asked him to leave the building." Chansley said others were on the Senate floor and he was going to join them; the officer followed him.

Chansley climbed the Senate dais and sat in then-Vice President Mike Pence’s seat, taking pictures of himself. Despite repeated requests from Robishaw, Chansley refused to vacate the seat. "Mike Pence is a f- - -ing traitor," he said.

Just after 3 p.m., "other law enforcement officers arrived to support (Robishaw) and cleared the defendant and other rioters from the chamber."

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... ut-capito/




Felony obstruction.


Putting trust in Cuck Carlson is nearly as stupid as putting trust in Don Dump.




#liars

Let's say everything you say is true. It doesn't matter. Dude deserves an honest trial. His attorney should have had access to all of the video.

He didn't.

Yes, he plead guilty, because at that time, the selected video and narrative ensured he'd go up the river much longer if he went to a (witch) trial. Had he had the evidence he was due, that would have changed things.

I want a fair trial for everyone.

If it could be shown that Mr. Shaman's attorney was denied video that he was entitled to, and such video would likely have resulted in a different outcome for Mr. Shaman, then yes, I would have a problem with that.

Thanks poptah, that is all I’m saying.

McCarthy needs to open new hearings with both sides represented.


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Diego in Seattle wrote:

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:08 pm

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:52 pm Let's say everything you say is true. It doesn't matter. Dude deserves an honest trial. His attorney should have had access to all of the video.

He didn't.

Yes, he plead guilty, because at that time, the selected video and narrative ensured he'd go up the river much longer if he went to a (witch) trial. Had he had the evidence he was due, that would have changed things.

I want a fair trial for everyone.

If it could be shown that Mr. Shaman's attorney was denied video that he was entitled to, and such video would likely have resulted in a different outcome for Mr. Shaman, then yes, I would have a problem with that.

Same here.

But the video isn't exculpatory evidence, and no appellate court is going to overturn the shaman's convictions.

It certainly is excalpatory. It shows him being cooperative and even complimentary of the police.

He was undoubtedly guilty of something that day, mostly being a dumb fukk. But he was far from being a violent insurrectionist.


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smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:06 pm

Diego in Seattle wrote:

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:08 pm
I want a fair trial for everyone.

If it could be shown that Mr. Shaman's attorney was denied video that he was entitled to, and such video would likely have resulted in a different outcome for Mr. Shaman, then yes, I would have a problem with that.

Same here.

But the video isn't exculpatory evidence, and no appellate court is going to overturn the shaman's convictions.

It certainly is excalpatory. It shows him being cooperative and even complimentary of the police.

He was undoubtedly guilty of something that day, mostly being a dumb fukk. But he was far from being a violent insurrectionist.


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Please explain how the video was "excalpatory" (moron) to each charge he was convicted of.

TIA

The circumstance of the trial were affected greatly by evidence being withheld.

He plead to lesser charges to avoid going to trial for more serious charges.
Had he had this evidence that he was constitutionally entitled to, he may have took his chances with a jury.

The bottom line here is that his rights were violated. And any after the fact “it wouldn’t matter anyway” argument is bullshit.

Got any other weak shit arguments?


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“The cops helped him” is not the flex they think it is. The cops clearly stated they were out manned and were in “de-escalation” mode. They literally handcuffed people, decided there were too many people to arrest and un cuffed them so they could try and talk people into leaving. You are a fucking traitor Naziaholic.

Still waiting to hear Chip’s take.

Not surprised that he’s ducking it, if that is in fact what he’s doing.


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