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Outgoing US President Joe Biden has authorized Ukraine to use powerful long-range American weapons inside Russia, according to two US officials familiar with the decision.

The decision comes as thousands of North Korean troops deploy in support of Moscow’s war effort, sparking concern from Biden and his advisers that their entry could lead to a dangerous new phase in the war.

The Kremlin responded by saying that the move shows that the Biden administration wants to “throw oil on the fire” of the conflict, while Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky said that the “missiles will speak for themselves.”

Biden’s authorization came after one of Moscow’s largest aerial attacks on Ukraine in months. At least eight people have been killed after a Russian missile attack on the southern city of Odesa, officials said Monday. Meanwhile, Ukraine said Russia suffered its highest number of weekly losses last week.

88BuckeyeGrad wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:01 pm https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/ukr ... index.html

Outgoing US President Joe Biden has authorized Ukraine to use powerful long-range American weapons inside Russia, according to two US officials familiar with the decision.

The decision comes as thousands of North Korean troops deploy in support of Moscow’s war effort, sparking concern from Biden and his advisers that their entry could lead to a dangerous new phase in the war.

The Kremlin responded by saying that the move shows that the Biden administration wants to “throw oil on the fire” of the conflict, while Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky said that the “missiles will speak for themselves.”

Biden’s authorization came after one of Moscow’s largest aerial attacks on Ukraine in months. At least eight people have been killed after a Russian missile attack on the southern city of Odesa, officials said Monday. Meanwhile, Ukraine said Russia suffered its highest number of weekly losses last week.

This makes little sense to me. What is the plan? Why now? What happens next?

It seems to me that by providing weapons to Ukraine that can strike deeper into Russia (with precision), the U.S. is escalating the war. What is Russia going to do in response? If this was a good idea, why didn't it happen years ago?

I'm certainly no fan of Russia, but I try to be fair. What if during any of the many wars the U.S. was fighting in my lifetime, Russia (or some other country) provided long-range weapons to our adversary that could be used to strike targets in the U.S.? Do you think we'd shrug or go full fucking retard strength war on them?

This is dangerous business.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... flict.html

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:05 pmBecause Biden believes in standing up for democracies while you are an fascistic authoritarian pussy. Hope that helps.

Ukraine’s election day dawned with no vote in sight and little appetite for one – for now, anyway

Kyiv
CNN
—
In another world, Ukraine would have voted on Sunday. In a year where billions get the chance to cast a ballot, people here would have given their verdict on the presidency of Volodymyr Zelensky.

Five years ago, the man whose talents as an actor, comedian and producer had made him a household name in Ukraine was propelled into office. But with Russian forces still inside the country and millions of Ukrainians displaced from their homes, fighting on the frontlines, or living overseas, there is no election in sight.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/30/europe/u ... index.html

mvscal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:00 pm Maybe Russia shouldn't have invaded Ukraine. You don't get to launch a full scale invasion of another country and then cry about "escalation." Fuck off.

Sven Golly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:46 pm When Biden was asked why he decided to allow the missiles to be used, he replied "my butt's been wiped", and vanished into his favorite ice cream shop.

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:05 pm

88BuckeyeGrad wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:01 pm What is the plan?

Why now?

What happens next?

What is Russia going to do in response?

If this was a good idea, why didn't it happen years ago?

What if during any of the many wars the U.S. was fighting in my lifetime, Russia (or some other country) provided long-range weapons to our adversary that could be used to strike targets in the U.S.? Do you think we'd shrug or go full fucking retard strength war on them?

Because Biden believes in standing up for democracies while you are an fascistic authoritarian pussy. Hope that helps.

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:05 pm Because Biden believes in standing up for democracies

Mikey wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:07 pm Biden suppressed your freedom of speech?

Mikey wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:12 pm I don’t know. I don’t watch MSNBC. Do you have a link? I thought you didn’t trust them anyway.

And anyway, how would that be YOUR freedom of speech?

88BuckeyeGrad wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:01 pm What if during any of the many wars the U.S. was fighting in my lifetime, Russia (or some other country) provided long-range weapons to our adversary that could be used to strike targets in the U.S.? Do you think we'd shrug or go full fucking retard strength war on them?

Roux wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 3:33 pm

88BuckeyeGrad wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:01 pm What if during any of the many wars the U.S. was fighting in my lifetime, Russia (or some other country) provided long-range weapons to our adversary that could be used to strike targets in the U.S.? Do you think we'd shrug or go full fucking retard strength war on them?

Link

Mikey wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:38 pm The timing seems strange to me. If Biden was serious about stopping Putin from marching across Eastern Europe, instead of sitting back and watching a war of attrition unfold, he should have done this two years ago.

88BuckeyeGrad wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:01 pm https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/ukr ... index.html

Outgoing US President Joe Biden has authorized Ukraine to use powerful long-range American weapons inside Russia, according to two US officials familiar with the decision.

The decision comes as thousands of North Korean troops deploy in support of Moscow’s war effort, sparking concern from Biden and his advisers that their entry could lead to a dangerous new phase in the war.

The Kremlin responded by saying that the move shows that the Biden administration wants to “throw oil on the fire” of the conflict, while Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky said that the “missiles will speak for themselves.”

Biden’s authorization came after one of Moscow’s largest aerial attacks on Ukraine in months. At least eight people have been killed after a Russian missile attack on the southern city of Odesa, officials said Monday. Meanwhile, Ukraine said Russia suffered its highest number of weekly losses last week.

This makes little sense to me. What is the plan? Why now? What happens next?

It seems to me that by providing weapons to Ukraine that can strike deeper into Russia (with precision), the U.S. is escalating the war. What is Russia going to do in response? If this was a good idea, why didn't it happen years ago?

I'm certainly no fan of Russia, but I try to be fair. What if during any of the many wars the U.S. was fighting in my lifetime, Russia (or some other country) provided long-range weapons to our adversary that could be used to strike targets in the U.S.? Do you think we'd shrug or go full fucking retard strength war on them?

This is dangerous business.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... flict.html

mvscal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:55 pm Their range is less than 200 miles. Hardly a long range, strategic weapon.

HighPlainsGrifter wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:05 am I thought the whole world was pretty much unified on the idea that land mines are inhumane.

What the fuck, Biden apologists?

88BuckeyeGrad wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:28 am

mvscal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:55 pm Their range is less than 200 miles. Hardly a long range, strategic weapon.

Practically a sling shot, eh?

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/pr ... ystem.html

mvscal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:48 am For all intents and purposes, yes. It's a TBM with a 500 pound warhead and a range of less than 200 miles. Calm the fuck down. Jesus fucking Christ.

The Seer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:16 pm

mvscal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:48 am For all intents and purposes, yes. It's a TBM with a 500 pound warhead and a range of less than 200 miles. Calm the fuck down. Jesus fucking Christ.

I guess where they were launched from would factor into the target areas within 200 miles...Maybe Biden's handlers would be as nonchalant about those type projectiles being sent here return postage...

Mikey wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:51 pm It’s good to see someone here standing up for Vladimir Putin.

The Seer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:44 pm

Mikey wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:51 pm It’s good to see someone here standing up for Vladimir Putin.

How many people have died in the war?

Last month, The Wall Street Journal (WSJ), citing intelligence and undisclosed sources, reported a grim milestone: about one million Ukrainians and Russians have been killed or wounded since the war began.

The majority of dead are soldiers on both sides, followed by Ukrainian civilians.

According to government figures, in the first half of 2024, three times as many people died in Ukraine as were born, the WSJ reported.


It's not good to see you & others support Joepotato & handlers that refused to have negotiations at the start of this clusterfuck but at least the Biden family and defense contractors got their millions....So there's that....

The Seer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:44 pm

Mikey wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:51 pm It’s good to see someone here standing up for Vladimir Putin.

How many people have died in the war?

Last month, The Wall Street Journal (WSJ), citing intelligence and undisclosed sources, reported a grim milestone: about one million Ukrainians and Russians have been killed or wounded since the war began.

The majority of dead are soldiers on both sides, followed by Ukrainian civilians.

According to government figures, in the first half of 2024, three times as many people died in Ukraine as were born, the WSJ reported.


It's not good to see you & others support Joepotato & handlers that refused to have negotiations at the start of this clusterfuck but at least the Biden family and defense contractors got their millions....So there's that....