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[The Seer]

Indeed it is. Surely you recognize that D voters are highly motivated and energized for November, don't you? Polls, tv ratings, money, assassination attempts, failed lawfare tactics, Marc Elias and the voting irregularity machine warming up, lying about abortion to naive "women", avoiding all press conferences, etc. etc.... all in favor of Harris.

[kcdave]

Don't we have a dedicated thread for school shootings
that was many pages deep, or was that .net ?

[Sudden Sam]

Solution:

Stop handing out mood elevaors/anti-depressants like candy to kids.

[88BuckeyeGrad]

Are you going to be able to cope when Trump beats Harris soundly? It isn't going to be close.

I laughed.

He who laughs last, laughs best. I could be wrong. But I don’t see any real interest in Harris. She is better than Biden, but in a choosing diabetes over cancer kind of way. She still sucks. I’ve yet to hear anyone tout her policies or visions other than she isn’t Biden or Trump. That won’t motivate anyone who isn’t afflicted with TDS. Diego thinks Prosecutor Harris will debate well. I doubt it. She has never done well in that arena. Ask Tulsi if you don’t believe me. She is shallow and predisposed to lie. Only Walz is worse in that regard, and she picked him. The American people will come to know her and rightfully go back to finding her 29% approvable.

[Roux]

She is shallow and predisposed to lie.

Just wondering, how would you describe trump in this regard?

[Mikey]

She is shallow and predisposed to lie.

Just wondering, how would you describe trump in this regard?

Maybe not shallow, but deeply disturbed.

But that’s not as important as having a laugh that you think is goofy.

[Roux]

There have been at least 45 school shootings in the United States so far this year, as of September 4. Thirteen were on college campuses, and 32 were on K-12 school grounds. The incidents left 23 people dead and at least 62 other victims injured......link

Other than thoughts and prayers, anyone have any suggestions to stop these horrific crimes?

[Mikey]

There have been at least 45 school shootings in the United States so far this year, as of September 4. Thirteen were on college campuses, and 32 were on K-12 school grounds. The incidents left 23 people dead and at least 62 other victims injured......link

Other than thoughts and prayers, anyone have any suggestions to stop these horrific crimes?

/s/Better mental health care should solve it./s/

[mvscal]

You do understand that the 2nd A, like all other constitutional rights, is not absolute, don't you?

The Constitution doesn't grant any rights, dumbfuck. It keeps assholes like you from interfering with them.

[88BuckeyeGrad]

She is shallow and predisposed to lie.

Just wondering, how would you describe trump in this regard?

He is a serial exaggerator. It hurts him bigly. But he doesn’t lie like Harris/Walz/Biden. They lie about stupid shit. Biden was marching in South Africa with Mandela, except he didn’t. Harris’s grandmother walked around in India with a bullhorn promoting abortion, except she didn’t. Walz was in a combat zone etc., but he wasn’t. That is pathological stuff. What did Trump lie about? He exaggerates his accomplishments and exaggerates his opponents failures. But he doesn’t just look you in the face and fucking lie like they do. His has a grating, irritating style. They just fucking lie.

[88BuckeyeGrad]

You do understand that the 2nd A, like all other constitutional rights, is not absolute, don't you?

The Constitution doesn't grant any rights, dumbfuck. It keeps assholes like you from interfering with them.

Two different issues. Mvscal is right. But so is Roux, mostly. Does Roux think the 13th Amendment permits a little bit of slavery?

[Go Coogs']

Just take them away like drugs or alcohol

You better not. My drugs and alcohol never shot anyone.

13500 deaths in 2022 from drunk driving incidents. That’s kinda like being shot by a car


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[FiatLux]

Just take them away like drugs or alcohol

You better not. My drugs and alcohol never shot anyone.

13500 deaths in 2022 from drunk driving incidents. That’s kinda like being shot by a car


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Do you think everyone who does drugs and drinks gets in their car and drives?

Most people don't.

[Go Coogs']

No, but 178000 people die from alcoholism each year compared to 43000 deaths by gunshot. Neither is good but if we want to bring gun control to the conversation, you better bring alcohol to it as well.

I’m curious if we ever tried banning alcohol in the US. If so, how did that turn out?


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[88BuckeyeGrad]

Do you think everyone who does drugs and drinks gets in their car and drives?

Most people don't.

Do you think everyone who owns firearms commits a mass shooting?

Most people don’t.

[Mikey]

No, but 178000 people die from alcoholism each year compared to 43000 deaths by gunshot. Neither is good but if we want to bring gun control to the conversation, you better bring alcohol to it as well.

I’m curious if we ever tried banning alcohol in the US. If so, how did that turn out?


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Most people who die from alcohol do it to themselves, for whatever reasons. Most people who die from gun shots are killed by someone else. I know it’s a really subtle thing, but can you see the difference?

[88BuckeyeGrad]

No, but 178000 people die from alcoholism each year compared to 43000 deaths by gunshot. Neither is good but if we want to bring gun control to the conversation, you better bring alcohol to it as well.

I’m curious if we ever tried banning alcohol in the US. If so, how did that turn out?


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Most people who die from alcohol do it to themselves, for whatever reasons. Most people who die from gun shots are killed by someone else. I know it’s a really subtle thing, but can you see the difference?

You better check your facts, doug.

https://usafacts.org/data-projects/firearms-suicides

[Go Coogs']

No, but 178000 people die from alcoholism each year compared to 43000 deaths by gunshot. Neither is good but if we want to bring gun control to the conversation, you better bring alcohol to it as well.

I’m curious if we ever tried banning alcohol in the US. If so, how did that turn out?


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Most people who die from alcohol do it to themselves, for whatever reasons. Most people who die from gun shots are killed by someone else. I know it’s a really subtle thing, but can you see the difference?

Ummm no. Most deaths by gun shot wound are self inflicted.


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[Mikey]

She is shallow and predisposed to lie.

Just wondering, how would you describe trump in this regard?

He is a serial exaggerator. It hurts him bigly. But he doesn’t lie like Harris/Walz/Biden. They lie about stupid shit. Biden was marching in South Africa with Mandela, except he didn’t. Harris’s grandmother walked around in India with a bullhorn promoting abortion, except she didn’t. Walz was in a combat zone etc., but he wasn’t. That is pathological stuff. What did Trump lie about? He exaggerates his accomplishments and exaggerates his opponents failures. But he doesn’t just look you in the face and fucking lie like they do. His has a grating, irritating style. They just fucking lie.

Trump doesn't lie?

That's just laughable. Seriously, you should seek help.

[88BuckeyeGrad]

What you use to label something a Trump lie, if applied in the same manner to Biden, Harris and/or Walz, would produce a staggering amount of difference in Trump's favor. It wouldn't be close. Those cats just flat out fucking lie. All the fucking time. Because they can. Because the Press is on their team. Just look how many times in the past couple of days you've posted something you were certain was true only to find out that Team D and the Press lied to you.

[FiatLux]

Just wondering, how would you describe trump in this regard?

He is a serial exaggerator. It hurts him bigly. But he doesn’t lie like Harris/Walz/Biden. They lie about stupid shit. Biden was marching in South Africa with Mandela, except he didn’t. Harris’s grandmother walked around in India with a bullhorn promoting abortion, except she didn’t. Walz was in a combat zone etc., but he wasn’t. That is pathological stuff. What did Trump lie about? He exaggerates his accomplishments and exaggerates his opponents failures. But he doesn’t just look you in the face and fucking lie like they do. His has a grating, irritating style. They just fucking lie.

Trump doesn't lie?

That's just laughable. Seriously, you should seek help.

This is what happens when you drink the bleach-aid.

[Sven Golly]

But this is different.

Indeed it is. Surely you recognize that D voters are highly motivated and energized for November, don't you? Polls, tv ratings, money, all in favor of Harris. At least some Republicans secretly rooting for a trump loss, and trump campaign in chaos, and other similar stories are common now.

The good news is that we don't have to wait very long to find out.

Surely you recognize that the polls are completely manufactured to push a narrative?

Surely you recognize that the Republicans rooting for a Trump loss aren't Republicans?

Surely you realize that a huge majority of Americans have found sources other than the biased MSM outlets to get their unbiased news (e.g., podcasts such as Rogan, Carlson, Vonn, etc.). Trump goes on any podcast that asks him, even hostile ones. Cackles?? Nada.

The rules have changed, and it's now a movement.

Wake up...

[Diego in Seattle]

What you use to label something a Trump lie, if applied in the same manner to Biden, Harris and/or Walz, would produce a staggering amount of difference in Trump's favor. It wouldn't be close. Those cats just flat out fucking lie. All the fucking time. Because they can. Because the Press is on their team. Just look how many times in the past couple of days you've posted something you were certain was true only to find out that Team D and the Press lied to you.

Where has a journalist from a major news outlet called out Dump for saying that there were abortions being performed post-birth?

[Mikey]

[88BuckeyeGrad]

Where has a journalist from a major news outlet called out Dump for saying that there were abortions being performed post-birth?

You've got it twisted, again, which proves my point. Trump was talking about Ralph Northam's comments (quoted below):

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/31/politics ... index.html

“[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that’s nonviable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” Northam, a pediatric neurosurgeon, told Washington radio station WTOP. “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

A true journalist should not "call out" Trump for repeating something that Ralph Northam actually said, right? But they did it anyway:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/06/politics ... index.html

Want to try again?

[L45B]

^^^Mikey nails it once again with a slew of cognizant blasts!!!

Speaking of blasts, we have to end this violence and officially legislate the ban of bullet holes from ever appearing. That will make them vanish!!

[FiatLux]

Bwahahaha.

Rack.

[Diego in Seattle]

Where has a journalist from a major news outlet called out Dump for saying that there were abortions being performed post-birth?

You've got it twisted, again, which proves my point. Trump was talking about Ralph Northam's comments (quoted below):

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/31/politics ... index.html

“[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that’s nonviable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” Northam, a pediatric neurosurgeon, told Washington radio station WTOP. “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

A true journalist should not "call out" Trump for repeating something that Ralph Northam actually said, right? But they did it anyway:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/06/politics ... index.html

Want to try again?

Trump didn't attribute that statement to Northam. Trump said that it's what Kamala Harris wants:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-ayRnasN7M

Care to hook us up with where the VPOTUS said that?

[88BuckeyeGrad]

Untwist the step-ins, Diego, and riddle me this. Do you think Harris would approve of any limitations on abortion? What about late-term, 3rd trimester abortions? Would she be down with a federal ban on them, or restrictions etc.? Take some breaths. When has Harris ever said there should be any restrictions on abortion? Did she criticize Northam for what he said? You can play word games and all. But Harris won't touch the third rail of Team D election politics, which is abortion any time for any reason. Right?

[The Seer]

Other than thoughts and prayers, anyone have any suggestions to stop these horrific crimes?

Just a start but maybe getting rid of the Soros financed DA's & prosecutors - (Krasner, Fox, Breed, the cunt in Oakland, Bragg, Gascon, etc...and start enforcing the law and doling out appropriate sentences...

The Soros backlash: How the nation has turned against soft-on-crime prosecutors

For $40 million — a rounding error for one of the wealthiest men in history — George Soros helped remake the nation’s legal system.

Supporting prosecutors who vowed not to prosecute, Soros and related entities pushed district attorneys who aimed to reshape law and order into anarchy and disorder.

It worked. At his peak influence, 75 Soros-backed prosecutors held office. As a result, one in five Americans, and half of those living in the nation’s most populous cities, were living in an area run by a Soros DA, or one who shared his ideology.

The damage they have done has been immeasurable. Shoplifting and drug use was decriminalized, repeat offenders were set free with no bail, and murders, robbery and rape increased in Baltimore, Chicago, San Francisco, New York and more.

But the worm has started to turn. Through a combination of corruption and voter backlash, a significant number of these district attorneys have been ousted.

There’s still a long way to go, but the message is clear: The Soros experiment has been a disaster for the nation.

[FiatLux]

Today is just the most recent mass shooting, at least 4 dead at a school due to a 14 year old.

Any suggestions as to address that problem?

Yeah, prosecute the parents of the shooter.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/05/us/apala ... index.html




Rack me.

[StrawMan]

What would you suggest be done to stop or reduce the number of mass shootings?

Founding Fathers only knew about the firearm technology of their day. Is it presumptuous to guess that at least a noticeable number of them wouldn't approve of green-lighting wide-spread ownership of what we have now?

Yes.

It would also be presumptuous to guess that a reasonable, fact-based discussion re 2A could be held on this board.

IMHO, many here would rather lob tired talking points so it'd be a huge waste of time.

[Roux]

Gun Control Is as Old as the Old West

[Mikey]

Gun Control Is as Old as the Old West

But they didn’t have the Second Amendment back then.

sin
Brain dead MAGAt losers.

[88BuckeyeGrad]

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

I agree with the Progtards in some respects regarding the manner in which the Second Amendment should be interpreted. The "well-regulated militia" part has to mean something. At the time of its drafting, the United States of America was in its formation stage. There was concern that the British might come back over here and try to retake possession of its former colonies. There was no professional army here to do anything (and the Framers were suspicious of standing armies anyway). And there was concern that the new nation might adopt a British system and tyrannize its citizens.

That is why the Third Amendment prohibits the quartering of soldiers. This is why the Tenth Amendment makes it clear that the power conceded to the federal government is limited, and all power which is not expressly granted to it is reserved to the People and the States. I think that in this context, the Second Amendment was to ensure that the People could retain arms in the event they needed to defend themselves from adversaries, foreign or domestic.

I do not believe the Framers envisioned the Second Amendment as protecting the right of the People to attach high capacity magazines to semi-automatic weapons (neither of which existed at the time). But they did want them to be suitably armed. And where that line should be drawn is a tough one. Congress banned the possession of automatic firearms and that was determined to be Constitutional. I think Congress (and the States) have the power to regulate the possession of firearms provided the regulations do not interfere with the ability of a group of individuals to train as a militia with the object being the ability to assist in the defense of the nation against foreign forces and/or tyranny.

The harder question is whether an individual citizen has a right to possess a firearm to protect themself and their loved ones from criminals. I think the individual citizen should have that right. And that probably means that the possession of hand guns and other personal defense weapons must be permitted. But I don't think that logic should apply to AR-15's. They are not really personal defense weapons (maybe household defense weapons). They would be excellent as militia weapons, though. I could see a regulation that permits the ownership of AR-15-type firearms provided they are kept in the home and leave the home only if they are being transported to a range for training/practice.

I would also throw anyone's ass in prison for 30 years if they commit a crime with a firearm, including juveniles. A 12-year old takes a gun into his/her hands to commit a crime, that kids (unfortunately) has to go to the pokey until he/she is 42. No exceptions.

[FiatLux]

I would also throw anyone's ass in prison for 30 years if they commit a crime with a firearm, including juveniles. A 12-year old takes a gun into his/her hands to commit a crime, that kids (unfortunately) has to go to the pokey until he/she is 42. No exceptions.

What about the parents that provide the firearms to a juvenile? Should they be held accountable for the actions of their child until they are 18 years old?

Like voting and drinking. Should it be illegal for a minor possess a firearm?

[Roux]

Should it be illegal for a minor possess a firearm?

Hell no. I had a rifle and shotgun when I was around 10 years old.

[FiatLux]

Should it be illegal for a minor possess a firearm?

Hell no. I had a rifle and shotgun when I was around 10 years old.

Then we'll keep reliving these school shootings over and over and over again.

And you'll keep asking what can be done.


Should a 10 year old be able to drink vodka and/or vote?

And if no, then why not?

But you're cool with a 10 year old with a firearm... unreal.


This is why these mass school shootings NEVER happen in a city... and always happen in rural and suburban areas.

If parents love their guns... more than they love their kids. We'll always have these nightmare incidents.

[Sven Golly]

The issue isn't 10 year olds having guns.

It's the fucked up culture we have now, with social media and the addiction to phones being the root causes.

Kids don't interact anymore, nor do a lot of adults. They're slaves to their Instagram and Tik Tok, and are completely obsessed with self-image.

If the culture keeps devolving, we'll keep seeing school shootings.

It's as simple as that.

[bungle clone]

Only about 1.5 hour away from me.