Fire in Pacific Palisades

[Mikey]

And BTW, of the forested land in California:

57% is owned by various federal agencies
40% is owned by families, Native American tribes or companies, including 14% by industrial timber companies
3% is CalFire, local open space, park and water districts and land trusts

9 million acres (27% of 33 million acres) is owned by individuals with 90% of those owners having 50 cares or less

So, Donny Bonespurs should be able to solve 57% of our problem the day he takes office. All we need is an influx of rakes and 100,000 or so H-2A visas for a year or two.

Wouldn't it be nice if ignorant fucks from flyover country would quit acting like they know shit about shit they know absolutely nothing about? Maybe worry more about where their next load of asphalt is coming from?






Of course there aren't any forests in Los Angeles. They all burned up this week.

[FiatLux]

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YADA YADA YADA

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Fantasy lands of idealism are the playgrounds of the immature. In a properly functioning family, a father lets kids have their fantasy but he makes sure it stays in their heads and does not infect the real world. A lack of fathers in the home has given us several generations of adults whom think they can manifest fantasy into reality if they have enough power and Other People's Money. This is highly prevalent in one party rule Democrat Shitholes... errr... "Coastal Paradises". The halls of government in California suffer a catastrophic dearth of adults in the room. There are not enough voices with the intestinal fortitude to say, "No. Fuck your feelings. That is not going to work."

Forest mismanagement is a direct product of the kind of "Wouldn't it be nice..." fantasyland that gives us Woke Bullshit and DEI. All branches of the same tree. Gloriously, that tree is on fucking fire right now. I'm here to see it.

Thanks, Dad (it's OK if I call you Dad, right?) for blessing us with your fatherly wisdom about places that you've never lived or probably even been to. I'm sure you put a lot of effort into this.

Just one question...WTF does any of this have to do with the current situation in Pacific Palisades, Altadena, the Hollywood Hills, or any other area that's been burning in California? They are not forests.

[mvscal]

the current situation in Pacific Palisades.

Still working on repairs to the pool cover. It's been almost a year, but a couple more months maybe? Hard to say really. I mean there's no rush now anyway.

[Mikey]

Nice strawman.

I didn't know that mvscal was an HPG troll . I'll add that to my spreadsheet.
My comment about ignorant fucks in flyover country applies both to you (HPG) and your mvscal troll.

[mvscal]

Nice strawman.

No, no, no. This is a strawman.



This is an empty reservoir which is supposed to supply the Pacific Palisades area.



I imagine it might have come in handy while the Palisades were burning to the ground. Alas...it was not. By all means, though, please resume your feeble turd polishing.

[Mikey]

OK maybe not a strawman. Try deflection.

We were talking about "forest management."
GFY AND your mvscal troll.

You've posted that picture often enough. You should make it your avatar.

[mvscal]

OK maybe not a strawman. Try deflection.

We were talking about "forest management."
GFY

I'm sorry. You referenced the "current situation in Pacific Palisades." I understand, though. It is difficult to keep track of all the myriad bureaucratic fuck ups involved in this catastrophic clusterfuck.

"Thoughts and prayers."

[Mikey]

OK maybe not a strawman. Try deflection.

We were talking about "forest management."
GFY

I'm sorry. You referenced the "current situation in Pacific Palisades." I understand, though. It is difficult to keep track of all the myriad bureaucratic fuck ups involved in this catastrophic clusterfuck.

"Thoughts and prayers."

No worries. I get that you are dealing with some severe intellectual limitations.
Suggest you spend a little more time on reading comprehension, and less on assfuckery.

[FiatLux]

all the myriad bureaucratic fuck ups involved in this catastrophic clusterfuck.

What is your tiny little Midwestern brain babbling about now?

Governor Newsom has handled this spectacularly..

LA is burning down right?

Where is this fuck up your tiny little Dumbfuckstanian brain is babbling about?

Fucking dipshit.

[trevvie]

Newsome and the super majority are taking a huge hit for this debacle. I think this will be Newsome's demise. Finally.
Mikey and Diego can defend them but it's on the leaders that this went so poorly.

Don't blah blah blah me, I've had enough.

Climb back into your hole, ignorant skank. First of all, it’s Newsom, not “Newsome.” Second, he’ll be gone in two years no matter what happens today. But you’re too thick to get the concept “term limits” I guess. I’m no big fan of NEWSOM but, contrary to what you and your alcohol damaged brain might think, he doesn’t control the weather.

YOU have spelled his name wrong on several posts, as well as several other posters on both sides of this issue. So, you sound like an enormous cunt calling me out on the spelling. Newsome, Newsom, who cares. Keep defending him, I love it.

[Roux]

United Way LA County donation link

Please donate if you can.

[Sudden Sam]

Are there any adults in LA government?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 075429007/

FBI searches home of Los Angeles deputy mayor linked to City Hall bomb threat probe

[Mikey]

Newsome and the super majority are taking a huge hit for this debacle. I think this will be Newsome's demise. Finally.
Mikey and Diego can defend them but it's on the leaders that this went so poorly.

Don't blah blah blah me, I've had enough.

Climb back into your hole, ignorant skank. First of all, it’s Newsom, not “Newsome.” Second, he’ll be gone in two years no matter what happens today. But you’re too thick to get the concept “term limits” I guess. I’m no big fan of NEWSOM but, contrary to what you and your alcohol damaged brain might think, he doesn’t control the weather.

YOU have spelled his name wrong on several posts, as well as several other posters on both sides of this issue. So, you sound like an enormous cunt calling me out on the spelling. Newsome, Newsom, who cares. Keep defending him, I love it.

Oh!! you got me!! 🫨

Some of us learn from our mistakes. Ignorant skanks apparently don’t. And some of them don’t know about term limits in their own state, or the fact that the Governor doesn’t control weather. Do you know where the state capital is? Or that Baja California isn’t actually part of California?

[HighHard1]

I’ll bet she got to that position solely because of talent and hard work.

And maybe just a tiny bit of dick sucking.

She’s pretty much the Kamala Harris of the public utility world.


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She should have been out there suck starting fire hydrants instead of bull dykes at city hall.

Damn, I've missed this. I called a someone a 'gibbering fucktard,' the other day. Good times.

[HighHard1]

Are there any adults in LA government?

No.

[HighHard1]

This shit just 'burns' me up. Has nothing to do with DEI, wokeism, etc., but with the Fire Industrial Complex.

No and yes, in that order. The Fire Industrial Complex is a self-sustaining entity and it's a huge problem but the FIC isn't creating timderboxes. The FIC profits from poor
forestry and have no interest in recommending anything else but ladder-fuel-laden tinderboxes come from the same emotion-driven mindset that gives us DEI and Woke Bullshit.

It's the mind virus that says,

Wouldn't it be nice if everyone could be a unique and special flower?

Wouldn't it be nice if everyone could be their authentic true selves and redefine "gender" into 147+ microcosmic descriptions? And wouldn't it be compassionate if government violated free speech rights of the majority of people in service of protecting that minority from being offended?

Wouldn't it be nice if minorities had access to high level positions in corporations and governments? And if so, wouldn't it be a societal requirement to force feed unqualified but sufficiently diverse people into these companies and agencies?

Wouldn't it be nice if no one was ever offended or intimidated by words they don't like?

Wouldn't it be nice if everyone got the same medical procedure? And wouldn't it be compassionate to mandate it so grandma doesn't die alone while her family mourns at a distance behind a fence?

Wouldn't it be nice if we stopped hunting animals?

Wouldn't it be nice if we lived in harmony with nature like native Americans?

Wouldn't it be nice if the forests were pure and pristine like they used to be?

Fantasy lands of idealism are the playgrounds of the immature. In a properly functioning family, a father lets kids have their fantasy but he makes sure it stays in their heads and does not infect the real world. A lack of fathers in the home has given us several generations of adults whom think they can manifest fantasy into reality if they have enough power and Other People's Money. This is highly prevalent in one party rule Democrat Shitholes... errr... "Coastal Paradises". The halls of government in California suffer a catastrophic dearth of adults in the room. There are not enough voices with the intestinal fortitude to say, "No. Fuck your feelings. That is not going to work."

Forest mismanagement is a direct product of the kind of "Wouldn't it be nice..." fantasyland that gives us Woke Bullshit and DEI. All branches of the same tree. Gloriously, that tree is on fucking fire right now. I'm here to see it.

I agree with you wholeheartedly with one exception or at least a thought anyway. It's all about $-if these assholes could have used swastikas, goose stepping, singing Deustchland Uber Alles, 'education' camps, they would have done that to make the $. How else will these clowns make 750K 'managing' H2O. That and a vast # of Americans with 0 connection to the natural world other than what the dying MSM or BBC documentaries tell them.

[smackaholic]

Why does Cali make cement ponds rather than just lining their reservoirs with clay if the existing soil is too porous? They do realize that these cement ponds don't like seismic activity, don't they?

[The Seer]

Or that Baja California isn’t actually part of California?

Patience.

[trevvie]

Or that Baja California isn’t actually part of California?

Patience.

It should be. It's on Trump's list.

[trevvie]

Oh, Mikey, you're the tard in this thread.

Let's here some more defense of your boy Neusum instead of spinning out of control, dear tard.

[Mikey]

Why does Cali make cement ponds rather than just lining their reservoirs with clay if the existing soil is too porous? They do realize that these cement ponds don't like seismic activity, don't they?

Why don’t you ask them, or try looking it up. The internet can be your friend. I know that it’s probably Newscum selling out to the cement industry, but you never know.

[smackaholic]

I actually did it and it said that it was to prevent errosion.

I get this for spillways or other places where you have a high speed flow.

But that pic looks like a water holding area, where this shouldn't be an issue, other than where the water enters.

[Mikey]

I actually did it and it said that it was to prevent errosion.

I get this for spillways or other places where you have a high speed flow.

But that pic looks like a water holding area, where this shouldn't be an issue, other than where the water enters.

Then you obviously know more than “they” do. I’m sure that a very shallow, earth lined reservoir used exclusively for shot term storage capacity would have no problems from silting up.

[smackaholic]

And a concrete one wouldn't?

There are way to control the water coming in to deal with that or maybe you just dredge it as needed.

My guess is it was done with fed dollars, so fukk it, who cares what it costs to build.

[HighPlainsGrifter]

I always get a giggle out of the Usual Suspects in here getting ragey and indignant whenever their politicial gods are held to account. Doesn't matter if it's national or local, the virtue of the (D) cannot be questioned! GoD and g0d forbid a Democrat is besmirched.

Gavin Newsom is doing a great job! At what? Hell if I know!

Karen Bass is the best Mayor ever! By what objective measurement? No fukken clue.

The three lesbian Kristens running the fire department are doing a phenomenal job! How? Unknown and unknowable. Just trust us, bro.

[Mikey]

I always get a giggle out of the Usual Suspects in here getting ragey and indignant whenever their politicial gods are held to account. Doesn't matter if it's national or local, the virtue of the (D) cannot be questioned! GoD and g0d forbid a Democrat is besmirched.

Gavin Newsom is doing a great job! At what? Hell if I know!

Karen Bass is the best Mayor ever! By what objective measurement? No fukken clue.

The three lesbian Kristens running the fire department are doing a phenomenal job! How? Unknown and unknowable. Just trust us, bro.

Who here said any of that? I only said that you don’t know WTF you’re talking about when you prattle on about “forest management” in Los Angeles. And how people in California need a real fatherly figure to guide them.

Apparently you don’t read English too good either.

[FiatLux]

I always get a giggle out of the Usual Suspects in here getting ragey and indignant whenever their politicial gods are held to account. Doesn't matter if it's national or local, the virtue of the (D) cannot be questioned! GoD and g0d forbid a Democrat is besmirched.

Gavin Newsom is doing a great job! At what? Hell if I know!

Karen Bass is the best Mayor ever! By what objective measurement? No fukken clue.

The three lesbian Kristens running the fire department are doing a phenomenal job! How? Unknown and unknowable. Just trust us, bro.

Who here said any of that? I only said that you don’t know WTF you’re talking about when you prattle on about “forest management” in Los Angeles. And how people in California need a real fatherly figure to guide them.

Apparently you don’t read English too good either.

It's pointless trying to explain simple things to people that aren't smart enough to be able to move out of North Dakota and Nebraska. Trev can't remember what liter of vodka she's on today..

All the firefighters have said numerous times that if they had all the water they could possibly use. There is still no way on Earth they would be able to put out the fires. Simpletons just don't understand wildfires and wind, They've never been around them. So they watch Fox News all day and get their information where they're told that politicians are responsible for something that all the firefighters in the world won't be able to stop.

You're wasting your time trying to explain things to people that just aren't that smart. But it is entertaining watching them regurgitate things that they've been told and watched on TV.

There's a reason they live in Dumbfuckistan.

[trevvie]

They had all the water they needed, eh?

Sykes was more recently known as a video game streamer and had been living in Sydney, Australia, before recently immigrating to the US. He had been born blind and with cerebral palsey; during an appearance on the Australian talk show Kerri-Anne as a child, he and his mother discussed the surgeries he had undergone to restore his sight.

His mother wrote that he was living in a cottage on his family’s large Malibu estate when the fires broke out.

“I couldn’t put out the cinders on his roof with a hose because the water was switched off by Las Virgenes Municipal Water,” she wrote. “Even the 50 brave firefighters had no water all day.”

[FiatLux]

They had all the water they needed, eh?

Sykes was more recently known as a video game streamer and had been living in Sydney, Australia, before recently immigrating to the US. He had been born blind and with cerebral palsey; during an appearance on the Australian talk show Kerri-Anne as a child, he and his mother discussed the surgeries he had undergone to restore his sight.

His mother wrote that he was living in a cottage on his family’s large Malibu estate when the fires broke out.

“I couldn’t put out the cinders on his roof with a hose because the water was switched off by Las Virgenes Municipal Water,” she wrote. “Even the 50 brave firefighters had no water all day.”

Drunk again, eh?

What are you babbling about?

[HighPlainsGrifter]

It's no use, Trev. Your average Californian has been brainwashed to believe everything bad is either: A. An external influence outside their control; or B. An unsolvable problem.

They will argue to the death the naked king is not only wearing clothes but the fabric is of the highest quality. Pointing out the obvious is fruitless. "Newsom is doing a great job!"

This fantasy they choose to imbibe is also a sign of immaturity. Nothing their political gods do is flawed. Ever. They've replaced benevolent God with infallible Government and it's a fucking cult. Like most cults, the members are the last to know.

Escape

[Mikey]

I always get a giggle out of the Usual Suspects in here getting ragey and indignant whenever their politicial gods are held to account. Doesn't matter if it's national or local, the virtue of the (D) cannot be questioned! GoD and g0d forbid a Democrat is besmirched.

Gavin Newsom is doing a great job! At what? Hell if I know!

Karen Bass is the best Mayor ever! By what objective measurement? No fukken clue.

The three lesbian Kristens running the fire department are doing a phenomenal job! How? Unknown and unknowable. Just trust us, bro.

Who here said any of that? I only said that you don’t know WTF you’re talking about when you prattle on about “forest management” in Los Angeles. And how people in California need a real fatherly figure to guide them.

Apparently you don’t read English too good either.

It's pointless trying to explain simple things to people that aren't smart enough to be able to move out of North Dakota and Nebraska. Trev can't remember what liter of vodka she's on today..

All the firefighters have said numerous times that if they had all the water they could possibly use. There is still no way on Earth they would be able to put out the fires. Simpletons just don't understand wildfires and wind, They've never been around them. So they watch Fox News all day and get their information where they're told that politicians are responsible for something that all the firefighters in the world won't be able to stop.

You're wasting your time trying to explain things to people that just aren't that smart. But it is entertaining watching them regurgitate things that they've been told and watched on TV.

There's a reason they live in Dumbfuckistan.

HPG is a troll, and not a very good one. Just extremely verbose. He criticizes people for stuff they never posted (I.e.he makes shit up) as a cover for not responding to being called out for the extensive and total bullshit that he actually posts himself. It’s a ruse that he has repeated over and over.

[Mikey]

They had all the water they needed, eh?

Sykes was more recently known as a video game streamer and had been living in Sydney, Australia, before recently immigrating to the US. He had been born blind and with cerebral palsey; during an appearance on the Australian talk show Kerri-Anne as a child, he and his mother discussed the surgeries he had undergone to restore his sight.

His mother wrote that he was living in a cottage on his family’s large Malibu estate when the fires broke out.

“I couldn’t put out the cinders on his roof with a hose because the water was switched off by Las Virgenes Municipal Water,” she wrote. “Even the 50 brave firefighters had no water all day.”

Drunk again, eh?

Mother’s little helper.

What a drag it is getting old.

[Sudden Sam]

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1877082 ... dium=email

What a fucked up city.

[HighPlainsGrifter]

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1877082 ... dium=email

What a fucked up city.

NO! THat's got nothing to do with it. It's the Republicans in Nebraska's fault for warming the fukken planet with all their SUVs and charcoal grills!!! eEewEAAARRERGGGHHHH!




and wind

[Mikey]

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1877082 ... dium=email

What a fucked up city.

It’s amazing how you all suddenly care so much about California. You thinking of moving here or something? At least HPG takes the time to make up his own bullshit (or at least a version of it). The best you can do is link up some MAGA goober on “X.”

Whatever happened to Smack Chat? This is about the most pathetically lazy example of trolling I’ve ever seen.

[Carson]

Are y'all just gonna let him call you a troll in response to EVERY TIME YOU MAKE A VALID POINT???

Pussies, I say.

[The Seer]

Good idea.* Since california is run by politicians that range between radically stupid or corrupt, IMPOUND federal money and allocate it to the citizens, bypass the govt of the state that will keep some themselves or redirect to some fish farm or trans study.....*Looking like TWO of the fires were started by utility co line failures....

*https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/gove ... i-BB1rcmMN

* [youtube3]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq4VCI2JwgM&t=116s[/youtube3]

*https://www.aol.com/news/fire-agencies- ... 43038.html

[Mikey]

Are y'all just gonna let him call you a troll in response to EVERY TIME YOU MAKE A VALID POINT???

Pussies, I say.

Another troll with nothing of any substance to say about anything.

[Mikey]

Good idea.* Since california is run by politicians that range between radically stupid or corrupt, IMPOUND federal money and allocate it to the citizens, bypass the govt of the state that will keep some themselves or redirect to some fish farm or trans study.....*Looking like TWO of the fires were started by utility co line failures....

*https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/gove ... i-BB1rcmMN

* [youtube3]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq4VCI2JwgM&t=116s[/youtube3]

*https://www.aol.com/news/fire-agencies- ... 43038.html

The Investor Owned Utilities are about the worst thing in this state. But coming from a cowardly little cunt who cut and ran because he couldn't hack it here, this doesn't carry much weight at all.

[dan's college room mate]

So, the Cali third world electrical grid scores again. Big fukking surprise there.

This begs the question, why does one of the most advanced states have a 3rd world grid?

I don’t recall brown outs and fires being a thing 50 years ago.

Could it be that we had competent people overseeing it?

Could it be that we had a tried and true generation system, all under the control of the utility. And it was power by dead dinosaurs and atom splitting?

Could it be possible that hooking up thousands of small generating stations that make power when they feel like it could be a bad idea? And each of these stations are overseen by….uhhhh, WTF does oversee them?

Nahhhhh, none of that can be true. It’s all the fault of CO2 levels which might have caused a fraction of a degree warming.


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