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Manslaughter charges on the lock and chain cutter, if they ever find him/her ?GRANTS PASS, Oregon (AP) -- The remote logging road that James Kim and his family drove down before getting stranded deep in the Rogue River Canyon is normally blocked by a locked metal gate, but it was open the night they got lost because a vandal had cut the lock, authorities said Friday. ....
Martyred wrote: Hang in there, Whitey. Smart people are on their way with dictionaries.
War Wagon wrote:being as how I've got "stupid" draped all over, I'm not really sure.
WacoFan wrote:Flying any airplane that you can hear the radio over the roaring radial engine is just ghey anyway.... Of course, Cirri are the Miata of airplanes..
I'll bet you do...I'll bet you do.Cuda wrote:Hereabouts, we know a little something about snow, snowdrifts, mountain roads that close for the winter due to snow, wilderness areas, AND, maroons who insist on abandoning any semblence of good sense and end up getting lost/stranded in the back-country.
Imfuckingpossible.Mister Bushice wrote:If you drive 15 miles into the wilderness in winter on a logging road, then try and hike back out for help...
well at least the living parent can pass on to the kids the story of "what not to do in adverse conditions if you want to survive" and maybe override the potential inherited tendency to do something really stupid.
Screw_Michigan wrote: Democrats are the REAL racists.
Softball Bat wrote: Is your anus quivering?
More likely that Moving Sale or one of the other scumbag attorneys is already preparing a negligence case against the Forest Service.Tom In VA wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/08/missin ... index.html
Fuck man. This dude was a mile away from shelter.
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Manslaughter charges on the lock and chain cutter, if they ever find him/her ?GRANTS PASS, Oregon (AP) -- The remote logging road that James Kim and his family drove down before getting stranded deep in the Rogue River Canyon is normally blocked by a locked metal gate, but it was open the night they got lost because a vandal had cut the lock, authorities said Friday. ....
Screw_Michigan wrote: Democrats are the REAL racists.
Softball Bat wrote: Is your anus quivering?
Bears must turn in for the winter early in the U&L, I guessDinsdale wrote: They just found some dude on Mt Adams(Washington) that had been stuck in his Jeep for two freaking weeks.
WacoFan wrote:Flying any airplane that you can hear the radio over the roaring radial engine is just ghey anyway.... Of course, Cirri are the Miata of airplanes..
Derron wrote:Imfuckingpossible.Mister Bushice wrote:If you drive 15 miles into the wilderness in winter on a logging road, then try and hike back out for help...
well at least the living parent can pass on to the kids the story of "what not to do in adverse conditions if you want to survive" and maybe override the potential inherited tendency to do something really stupid.
Those brats are half Chink, therefore are damned to a life of bad driving and fucking with electronics. She can talk all her white bread ass wants, but them zip kids ain't picking it up. They best stay the fuck in the bay area and away from inclement elements other than rain that pose hazards to human survival.
I can just say ditto what Dins said. We have attemped crossings like that, but in a pack of 4WD's and well prepared with lotts of alcohol, weed, munchies, and several vehicles. I help look for some lost motorcycle riders out of Jones Creek about 28 years ago. They went DOWN a snow blocked road. We went in there in a 4WD Ford F 250, chains on all four wheels, and had to winch ourselves back out after we found the kids huddling (alive) under a tree.
Map's have these things called legend's... that tell you all about the road. I can't remember about the gate on that road, but gates usually last about a week in the woods. The media made the excuse that because the map showed it as the straightest road, that is why zip dude decided to take it. Nevermind the legend indicates it is a ONE, SINGLE, UNO, fucking lane road.
Media is also reporting that a bear followed dude. No shit ?? Fucking bears and cougars ALL over that area. It has one of the highest black bear populations per square mile of any place in Oregon. I call bullshit on him not being munched on. The fucking bears and cougars would have smelled that rotting chink corpse miles away and headed on into dinner.
And to get to the lodge, dude still would have had to get across the Rouge River, which would not be a huge problem. I have sat on that lodges deck drinking beer a few times... nice place... just not this time of the year.
I give Darwin a 3/4 rack on this one. Dude had procreated , but the kids are still half white. If dude had not procreated, then a full rack would be in order.
You can give them books, send them to college, and they can be Internet wizards, but them fucking book smarts don't do a goddamn thing for you in an Oregon snowdrift.
MEMO TO THE FUCKING NEWS MEDIA: MOVE THE FUCK ON... THERE WILL BE ANOTHER STORY.
Bigfoot got him.Dinsdale wrote:Nah. I've seen bears, or evidence thereof, this time of year. Bears tend to not deal with 8 feet of snow. You just don't see bear tracks after 8 feet of snowfall...just as you don't see the tracks of intelligent humans. Combine whatever was the base with 8 feet of fresh, and you tend to sink pretty quickly.
X wrote:Ludacris... was kicked off the Pepsi brand ad campaign based on explicit lyrics in his album. But with Snoop, here's a coon who admittedly sold drugs and gang banged, was charged with murder and maybe even slapped his wife, representing one of the largest corporations in America--in essence, selling cars to sixty year old white men and blue-haired white women.
COOPER SPUR, Ore. (AP) - Three climbers were reported missing on Mount Hood Monday after failing to meet friends as scheduled on Friday or Saturday, Hood River County Sheriff's Office officials said.
Searchers began moving up the mountain before dawn Monday to try to find the missing men, said to be from out-of-state.
It was snowing hard at Timberline Lodge, where the three were to have met the friends.
One was able to make a cell phone call from a snow cave the three were in atop Eliot Glacier just below the summit of the l1,239-foot peak on Sunday. The other two apparently had left the cave on Saturday to seek help.
The trio left their car on Wednesday to climb the difficult north side of the mountain, Oregon's tallest peak, and had planned to spend two nights on the mountain.
Authorities were unable to re-establish cell phone contact with the climber who called from the cave.
None of the three men had climbed the mountain before. About 10,000 people a year start for the summit and on average 20-25 have to be rescued.
"From the conversation it left us very concerned for the person's welfare," Hood River County Chief Deputy Jerry Brown said of the person who called from the cave.
He did not identify the three but said at least one was from Texas and one from New York.
Brown said one group of searchers would concentrate on known areas near the base, where the two might emerge, and that another group would go straight up the north face.
Steve Rollins, a rescue leader with Portland Mountain Rescue, which is sending two teams up the south side of Mount Hood, said the route the climbers took is very difficult, with slopes of 50 or 60 degrees with occasional sheer walls of vertical ice, he said, "And there is more than 2,000 feet of that terrain," he told The Associated Press."
"We don't know if they made the summit or not," Rollins said.
Rollins said wintry conditions are creating a deadly conditions.
There is "very hard ice, coupled with very high winds. You have a lot of snow on very hard ice. There is no easy way off the mountain."
He said another search and rescue team, the Hood River Crag Rats, will be searching the north face.
A winter storm watch is in effect for the area at least through Tuesday.
Brown said his office had contacted two of the families who said their relatives were experienced climbers.
Rescuers had hoped to begin searching Sunday night but weather made it impossible.
The Oregon Air National Guard had a helicopter on standby to use if weather conditions improve.
It was the second time in less than a month that people caught in snowy isolated areas of Oregon were reported missing after leaving available shelter.
In November, James Kim of San Francisco, his wife and two small daughters were stranded in their car on the Oregon Coast Range of southern Oregon. The wife and children were rescued but James Kim, 35, died of hypothermia after he left the car to seek help.
Lou Ann Cameron of Bryant, Ark., said in a telephone interview Monday that her son Kelly James is one of the climbers. She said James called his own son Jason from inside a snow cave on the mountain's north face Sunday afternoon.
Cameron said her grandson told her the other two men had gone back down the mountain to seek help.
Cameron said Jason later said he "didn't sound good."
Cameron said searchers had hoped to track James by the phone's signal, but could not.
"I'm just scared he was hurt and the other guys went to get help," Cameron said.
James, 48, is a professional landscaper who lives in Dallas with his wife Karen and four children.
Cameron described her son as an avid climber who scaled Mount McKinley, the Andes Mountains in South America and other peaks in Europe.
She said the three men planned to ice-climb the mountain's northern face, but hadn't reached the summit.
Authorities described the three men as well-equipped.
Most people who get in trouble on the mountain head up the south side from Timberline Lodge, where the path to the summit looks deceptively easy.
Would-be climbers often attempt the climb in shorts and T-shirts and often are caught in sudden storms and whiteouts that can move in with little warning.
The mountain usually claims at least one life most years.
The three left a note at a Forest Service station south of Hood River detailing their plans, said Doug Jones, a permit specialist with the Mount Hood National Forest.
"We don't see these very often," Jones said. said.
He said in the note detailed plans to take the route through the canyons on the north face, which would take them up the right side of Eliot Glacier.
They said they were taking "minimal gear," Jones told the Oregonian.
As bad as Peruvius and Quadrophenia?Ingse Bodil wrote:What happened to this man was a terrible thing.
Joe in PB wrote: Yeah I'm the dumbass
schmick, speaking about Larry Nassar's pubescent and prepubescent victims wrote: They couldn't even kick that doctors ass
Seems they rather just lay there, get fucked and play victim
Martyred wrote: Hang in there, Whitey. Smart people are on their way with dictionaries.
War Wagon wrote:being as how I've got "stupid" draped all over, I'm not really sure.
I guess you would, if there was baby formula and Theraflu involved, right Irish?ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:Who gives a fuck?Ingse Bodil wrote:I have other thoughts about it, but I'm not ready to type them yet.
X wrote:Ludacris... was kicked off the Pepsi brand ad campaign based on explicit lyrics in his album. But with Snoop, here's a coon who admittedly sold drugs and gang banged, was charged with murder and maybe even slapped his wife, representing one of the largest corporations in America--in essence, selling cars to sixty year old white men and blue-haired white women.
HERMISTON, Ore. (AP) - A small spider bite turned out to be a big problem for Cindy Pettey.
Pettey awoke when she was bitten on the stomach in the middle of the night a few weeks ago, but thought little of it.
Then she started running a fever, she felt achy and weak. The bite sore became larger.
Next thing Pettey knew, a doctor was telling her he believed she'd been bitten by a dangerous hobo spider.
Pettey had surgery that removed 10 pounds of skin and flesh, leaving her with an abdomen covered in stitches.
"It looks like I was bit in half by a shark," Pettey said.
Rob Hendrickson, a physician and director of the Oregon Poison Control Center, said the hobo is a non-aggressive spider that bites only when cornered. For example, when someone puts on a shoe with a spider inside.
The hobo is one of two dangerous spiders in Oregon. The other is the black widow. The brown recluse does not exist in Oregon, he said.
"In reality, most spiders are venomous, but aren't capable of penetrating human skin," Hendrickson said.
Hobo spider venom may cause necrosis, or death of the skin. When a spider injects venom below the skin, it reddens, swells, then turns black. But there is some doubt in the medical community about whether venom causes the skin death, Hendrickson said.
"If the venom can actually cause necrosis in humans," he said, "... then it is a very rare event."
Pettey isn't taking any more chances. She found five or six spiders that look like hobos. She also discovered two funnel webs like those made by hobo spiders. The webs, layered and non-sticky, funnel unwary prey toward a circular opening at the bottom of the web.
"I put hobo spider traps all over my house," she said.
Pettey's strength is returning slowly. She works five or six hours a day at her job at the Pilot Travel Center, then returns home exhausted. Her doctor told her it might be six months before she fully regains her energy.
"I come home and sleep for three hours," Pettey said. "It really zaps me."
X wrote:Ludacris... was kicked off the Pepsi brand ad campaign based on explicit lyrics in his album. But with Snoop, here's a coon who admittedly sold drugs and gang banged, was charged with murder and maybe even slapped his wife, representing one of the largest corporations in America--in essence, selling cars to sixty year old white men and blue-haired white women.
You really need to stop, man. You try too hard.Dinsdale wrote:
C) Who the fuck is this guy? For myself, I've personally suffered minor necrosis at the hands of a hobo spider on several occasions. My sister is missing a large chunk of her hip from a hobo. Necrosis from a hobo spider is common, not "rare."
X wrote:Ludacris... was kicked off the Pepsi brand ad campaign based on explicit lyrics in his album. But with Snoop, here's a coon who admittedly sold drugs and gang banged, was charged with murder and maybe even slapped his wife, representing one of the largest corporations in America--in essence, selling cars to sixty year old white men and blue-haired white women.
Tom In VA wrote:Are they kin to the Brown Recluse of really nasty gross spider bite fame/infamy ?
mvscal wrote:You're mistaken.Dinsdale wrote:B) If'm I'm not mistaken, "most" spiders aren't venomous...ALL spiders are venomous.
Ingse Bodil wrote:Yes, Goober, as bad as what happened to those two young men who drowned on the way to play basketball at the park. When I think about how Mr. Kim died, I think about that book 'Into Thin Air' and its graphic depictions of death on Mount Everest. Whether a bear ate at him or not, freezing to death is a horrible, horrible way to go. He froze to death so that his family might live.
Joe in PB wrote: Yeah I'm the dumbass
schmick, speaking about Larry Nassar's pubescent and prepubescent victims wrote: They couldn't even kick that doctors ass
Seems they rather just lay there, get fucked and play victim
Do you think we out of state fuckers give a shit what you people have to do. I realize you live in a beautiful state but it's not like the world is beating down your doors for anything other than sneakers and a pleasant view.Dinsdale wrote:[
Do you out-of-state fuckers think we don't have anything better to do all winter than search for your sorry asses?
I believe they're expecting well over a foot of snow and high winds on the moutian today...peace be with the rescuers.
