Amazing double speak even for Pres Hussein...

[Left Seater]

Prez Hussein today asks for ideas to cut government spending. What? Why not start with that crazy $700 Billion bill you railroaded thru Congress a couple of months ago.

On Friday, Democrats in Congress neared a deal on Obama's budget proposal and inched closer to passing a bill that would result in some $500 billion in deficits.

"So much of our government was built to deal with different challenges from a different era," said Obama, noting that he took office facing a $1.3 billion budget deficit.

So Prez Hussein admits he was looking at a budget deficit of $1.3 Billion and now Congress is close to passing a bill that would have some $500 Billion in deficits? Nice! And now he wants to talk about cutting government spending? Clearly he learned damage control from Bubba.

"We cannot sustain deficits that mortgage our children's future, nor tolerate wasteful inefficiency," Obama declared. "Government has a responsibility to spend the peoples' money wisely and to serve the people effectively."

If this is true why not go back to the previous budget with a deficit of only $1.3 Billion instead of increasing deficit spending by 385% in three months since taking office? Lip service?

He also said he wants to re-evaluate priorities in the capital and urged Congress to pass legislation that would force lawmakers to pay for new policies and avoid large deficits.

Do what I say, not what I do.


Sad, so sad that this guy was the best we could find.


Full story on USAToday.com http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington ... ress_N.htm

[BSmack]

Is calling President Obama "Pres Hussein" supposed to buttress your argument?

Fucking pathetic.

[Left Seater]

How quickly you forget.

Remember how the left liked to refer to our last president by his middle name and initial? Just keeping that trend going. If it was good for one president why not the current one?


Typical response though, attack the messenger and his reference to the pres instead of the words of the Pres.

[Screw_Michigan]

Remember how the left liked to refer to our last president by his middle name and initial?

Unlike your nickname for the current president, calling the previous president W isn't inherently racist. Just thought I'd remind you, you vapid racist fukkstikk.

[Left Seater]

So now using the President's middle name is racist.

WOW!

[Felix]

Remember how the left liked to refer to our last president by his middle name and initial?

Unlike your nickname for the current president, calling the previous president W isn't inherently racist. Just thought I'd remind you.

beside that, he likes being called W

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Remember how the left liked to refer to our last president by his middle name and initial?

Unlike your nickname for the current president, calling the previous president W isn't inherently racist. Just thought I'd remind you.

Oh ok, TVO.

[Screw_Michigan]

So now using the President's middle name is racist.

WOW!

I don't ever remember anyone consistantly refering to W as "Walker." And he was referred to as W to differentiate from from his father. Regarding the racial balst, you might just be the only "Real American" not using it as a racial slur.

[Screw_Michigan]

Oh ok, TVO.

Good call on that. I edited my take.

[Terry in Crapchester]

Are you saying that Barack Obama is embarrassed by his middle name and doesn't like people to use it?

As a general rule, he doesn't use it, certainly not prominently, anyway. He has joked about it in the past.

As Felix pointed out, by contrast W liked being called W.

[War Wagon]

Unlike your nickname for the current president, calling the previous president W isn't inherently racist. Just thought I'd remind you.

beside that, he likes being called W

Don't you mean "dumbya"?

He was called W simply to differentiate between him and his father, HW.

And no, calling Obama by his middle name is not "inherently racist". Only a dumbfuck would think that it could be construed as being racist.... wait, S_M posted that... nevermind, no sense in belaboring the obvious.

It is comical though how those who ruthlessly bashed Bush for 8 years (and still do) are now so sensitive to any criticism, perceived or otherwise, of the current occupant.

[Terry in Crapchester]

Btw, here's an image of Obama's signature. No reference to his middle name that I can see, not even an initial:

[Screw_Michigan]

As a general rule, he doesn't use it, certainly not prominently, anyway. He has joked about it in the past.

As Felix pointed out, by contrast W liked being called W.

Stop using facts and logical thought, Terry. There is no room for that shit here.

[Left Seater]

Actually, the "W" started with Ann Richards and Molly Ivins. They used to use it when Bush was running for gov. in negative ways. Bush supporters jumped on it and started using it as a rally point. It really took off when Bush defeated ol Ann for the Gov.

So if using the guys middle name is racist, then I guess his mother must be a racist for giving it to him.



Nice spin and deflection going on here though so as to totally ignore the substance of the post.

[Mr T]

Using his middle name, that is just racist.

Next your probably gonna start calling this guy Barack or Obama....I mean fucking seriously is Hussein any worse than Barack or Obama. At least Hussein doesn't come up incorrect on spell check, can't say the same for Barack or Obama.

[Tom In VA]

Using his middle name, that is just racist.

Are you being serious ? Please tell me you're not.

When has deviating a Presidents name for good or ill - EVER BEEN FUCKING RACIST ?

What's racist is this attempt to preserve Obama from being treated like any other President in this country has been treated, solely based on the notion that he's NON WHITE.

That my friend is most definitely RACIST.

He's a big boy, he can take it. But by all means, continue to cry wolf so when REAL racism hits - nobody will give a shit - again.

Good fucking gravy. Thinskinned pansies.

[War Wagon]

Tom, I guess you missed the sarcasm tags.

[Tom In VA]

I reckon I done there did miss that on Mr T then. But by and large there's an emerging tide, one that started to rise back when The One started taking over Shrillary.

That if you made fun of him, criticized him, or depicted him in anything but shining light - halo and all - you were racist.

Cartoonists, who had no problem crafting charicature after charicature of Bush as a monkey, all of a sudden "have to walk a thin line" about how they depict a descendant of an African tribe complicit in the slave trade.

Fuck it. How about treating him the way we treat any other President - shitty.

[Diego in Seattle]

That if you made fun of him, criticized him, or depicted him in anything but shining light - halo and all - you were racist.

And how does that differ from the previous eight years of being called unpatriotic for questioning republican policies?

[Tom In VA]

That if you made fun of him, criticized him, or depicted him in anything but shining light - halo and all - you were racist.

And how does that differ from the previous eight years of being called unpatriotic for questioning republican policies?

The unpatriotic aspect was feeding, encouraging, and buying into enemy propaganda. The fact most believed Saddam Hussein and a group whose stated mission and objectives are the destruction of the U.S. and Western Civ. and labelled an American, an American president a liar as it related to his primary duty - What would you call it ? How should that be perceived ?

Either way, it worlds apart, and you're a fucking idiot if you don't "get that".

[Mikey]

That if you made fun of him, criticized him, or depicted him in anything but shining light - halo and all - you were racist.

And how does that differ from the previous eight years of being called unpatriotic for questioning republican policies?

The unpatriotic aspect was feeding, encouraging, and buying into enemy propaganda. The fact most believed Saddam Hussein and a group whose stated mission and objectives are the destruction of the U.S. and Western Civ. and labelled an American, an American president a liar as it related to his primary duty - What would you call it ? How should that be perceived ?

Either way, it worlds apart, and you're a fucking idiot if you don't "get that".

Selective memory much?

[Tom In VA]

Not at all.

I just don't see where calling people who were anti American policy in Iraq since Bill Clinton "anti-American" has anything to do with default labelling of "racist" for anyone who dares criticize Obama. That reeks, reeks worse than McCarthyism.

[Mr T]

Using his middle name, that is just racist.

Are you being serious ? Please tell me you're not.

I am so serious...

I am guessing you quit reading after 7 words and went off that...here is the rest of my post you failed to quote....

Next your probably gonna start calling this guy Barack or Obama....I mean fucking seriously is Hussein any worse than Barack or Obama. At least Hussein doesn't come up incorrect on spell check, can't say the same for Barack or Obama.

[War Wagon]

Yeah T-bag, we already covered that.

Try pulling your head out your ass for once and pay the fuck attention to what's going on for a change.

[Derron]

Btw, here's an image of Obama's signature. No reference to his middle name that I can see, not even an initial:

Hmmm. I wonder why that is.

Because it might be perceived as being racist or the fact dude is a jack Muslim..

Kind of like a jack Mormon..Muslim in name but not in practice..or when it is to his advantage to be Muslim... the rest of the time he's just Baptist or some religion like that..which ever way the polls show he should go

Not that names have anything to do with your origin or ancestor's..

[Moving Sale]

I am not a bigot.

You are such a lying sack of crap. Show me ONE time when you referred to 43 as Pres. Walker or Pres. Herbert. You are doing this because YOU think it somehow says something bad about him. You're a fucking bigot, probably a racist too, but certainly a bigot.

[Terry in Crapchester]

It is comical though how those who ruthlessly bashed Bush for 8 years (and still do) are now so sensitive to any criticism, perceived or otherwise, of the current occupant.

At least within the confines of this board, there is no comparison between the criticism of Bush and the criticism of Obama. I'm reasonably certain that no one on these boards labeled Bush as, or even implied that he was, the "worst President ever" before he even had reached the 100 day mark.

As for criticism of Obama, while I certainly can't speak for anyone else, as far as I'm concerned, criticize his policies all you like. But should you elect to run name smack on him, know that your criticism just descended to the intellectual level of the 5th grade schoolyard playground, and it will be treated as such.

And speaking of comical, to me it's just a tad comical that someone would criticize another as "un-American" because someone else gave him Hussein for a middle name, yet defend someone who named her kids Track, Bristol, Willow and Trig as "mavericky." Just sayin'.

[Tom In VA]

It is comical though how those who ruthlessly bashed Bush for 8 years (and still do) are now so sensitive to any criticism, perceived or otherwise, of the current occupant.

At least within the confines of this board, there is no comparison between the criticism of Bush and the criticism of Obama. I'm reasonably certain that no one on these boards labeled Bush as, or even implied that he was, the "worst President ever" before he even had reached the 100 day mark.

As for criticism of Obama, while I certainly can't speak for anyone else, as far as I'm concerned, criticize his policies all you like. But should you elect to run name smack on him, know that your criticism just descended to the intellectual level of the 5th grade schoolyard playground, and it will be treated as such.

And speaking of comical, to me it's just a tad comical that someone would criticize another as "un-American" because someone else gave him Hussein for a middle name, yet defend someone who named her kids Track, Bristol, Willow and Trig as "mavericky." Just sayin'.

Do you try to lack any semblence of intellectual integrity or does it come naturally.

1. Bush wasn't labelled "worst President ever" before he reached the 100 day mark for one reason. You, yes you, that bitch who liked the Redskins and a host of other Democrat shills didn't even acknowledge the he WAS THE LEGITIMATE President. You lied then, like you're lying now.

2. Yeah, okay, so the idealogy fueled by Alinksy that won in November and continues to wage their campaign in America is calling out people for "5th Grade" smack. Fucking please. 8 years of "You're stupid", "Bush Lied People Died", and the Kanye West's of the nation speaking badly about Bush. Okay, so your side of the aisle resorts to Kindergarten tactics, seems to me the Republican's resorting to 5th grade level still has your side beat with respect to class, dignity, and oh --- honesty.

3. Can't leave a Pro Life broad alone can you ? God you're a sad fucking sack. You really are. And I'm not "just sayin'". I fucking mean it.

All is said and done here's what I'll call Barack Obama. Mr. President. He's earned that(Same as Bush did in 2000 and 2004). Aside from that his agenda, his supporters, and his idealogy all suck ass so far, in my opinion.

[War Wagon]

I went to hit submit and got the dreaded At least one new post has been made to this topic. You may wish to review your post in light of this.... which I normally ignore...

but dear lord, Rack Tom.

At least within the confines of this board, there is no comparison between the criticism of Bush and the criticism of Obama. I'm reasonably certain that no one on these boards labeled Bush as, or even implied that he was, the "worst President ever" before he even had reached the 100 day mark.

That "worst president ever" gloss must really sting you libs, eh?

Get used to it. Turn-about is fair play.

As for Bush, the hand-wringers were screaming bloody murder before he was even inaugurated, much less the first 100 days, saying he had "stolen" the election.

[Terry in Crapchester]

It is comical though how those who ruthlessly bashed Bush for 8 years (and still do) are now so sensitive to any criticism, perceived or otherwise, of the current occupant.

At least within the confines of this board, there is no comparison between the criticism of Bush and the criticism of Obama. I'm reasonably certain that no one on these boards labeled Bush as, or even implied that he was, the "worst President ever" before he even had reached the 100 day mark.

As for criticism of Obama, while I certainly can't speak for anyone else, as far as I'm concerned, criticize his policies all you like. But should you elect to run name smack on him, know that your criticism just descended to the intellectual level of the 5th grade schoolyard playground, and it will be treated as such.

And speaking of comical, to me it's just a tad comical that someone would criticize another as "un-American" because someone else gave him Hussein for a middle name, yet defend someone who named her kids Track, Bristol, Willow and Trig as "mavericky." Just sayin'.

Do you try to lack any semblence of intellectual integrity or does it come naturally.

1. Bush wasn't labelled "worst President ever" before he reached the 100 day mark for one reason. You, yes you, that bitch who liked the Redskins and a host of other Democrat shills didn't even acknowledge the he WAS THE LEGITIMATE President. You lied then, like you're lying now.

I never said that Bush wasn't the legitimate President. In fact, I called out I think his name was Hangman for using the "America held hostage" line to describe the Bush Presidency, for much the same reason that I was critical of your boy, Rush Limbaugh, for using it to describe the Clinton Administration.

2. Yeah, okay, so the idealogy fueled by Alinksy that won in November and continues to wage their campaign in America is calling out people for "5th Grade" smack. Fucking please. 8 years of "You're stupid", "Bush Lied People Died", and the Kanye West's of the nation speaking badly about Bush. Okay, so your side of the aisle resorts to Kindergarten tactics, seems to me the Republican's resorting to 5th grade level still has your side beat with respect to class, dignity, and oh --- honesty.

See above. "America held hostage" to describe a legitimately elected President (and not by a Hangman either, by a guy who, according to your side, draws 19 million listeners). You lose, again.

3. Can't leave a Pro Life broad alone can you ? God you're a sad fucking sack. You really are. And I'm not "just sayin'". I fucking mean it.

Where did I criticize Palin for being pro-life? In fact, I didn't even criticize her for the bizarre names she laid on her kids (I suppose I can live with Piper, but the others . . . ). Rather, I criticized you, yes you, and the rest of the dittosheep, for implying that Obama was un-American because of a name he undoubtedly did not pick for himself, while simultaneously ignoring the weird names Palin gave her own offspring.

All is said and done here's what I'll call Barack Obama. Mr. President. He's earned that(Same as Bush did in 2000 and 2004).

We agree on that.

Aside from that his agenda, his supporters, and his idealogy all suck ass so far, in my opinion.

At least on this board, Obama's supporters seem far more realistic about him than the amen corner, "Rack Dubya!" crowd that dominated political discourse on these boards, at least until his poll numbers went south, was about Bush.

That "worst president ever" gloss must really sting you libs, eh?

Nah, mostly I think you just look awfully silly throwing it around at this point in his presidency.

In fact, I've stated on more than one occasion that most legitimate historians I've read have stated that you can't fairly evaluate any President until 25 years after he has left office. I've also stated that if anything, that number is a little low imho. So you can't criticize me for throwing that around to describe Bush.

I also find it a little ironic that you and the rest of the Bush dittosheep bandy it about so frequently about Obama, given that the final judgment on Bush will depend, in no small part, on the extent of Obama's success in cleaning up the flaming sack of doo-doo that Bush left behind.

[Tom In VA]

Thanks for proving my point Terry. "My boy", etc.. etc.. Nice "pre-school" tactic of debate there.

Your idealogy is pimped by mainstream news outlets, public schools, universities, hollyweird, and musicians across the nation. Yet, I can allow, perhaps you aren't a brainwashed tard. I respect the fact you earned your right to be a lawyer. When have I not ? Never. Yet rather than simply acknowledge - I am laying down actual factuals - you resort to:

1. Minimizing my political slants by associating me with a DeeJay who I cannot listen to during the day and rarely hear what he has to say unless YOU or Mr. President is fussing over him.

2. A "It's not my fault, I didn't do it, Lil' Johnny did, honestly teacher, I wasn't going to actually throw the shit I just pulled out of my diaper, Hangman did it".

3. Your first reaction to ANYTHING, has been Palin. Most libs hate her, because she is vocally "Pro-Life". Women's groups hate her for that. A strong willed, professional, independent woman who is "Pro-Life". Fuck her accomplishments. She's Pro-Life. That's the primary motivation behind the character assassination attempted during and after the election. You know it, I know it, so don't even try to bullshit that it's anything different.

[Terry in Crapchester]

1. Minimizing my political slants by associating me with a DeeJay who I cannot listen to during the day and rarely hear what he has to say unless YOU or Mr. President is fussing over him.

I'm fussing over Limbaugh? The one thing I mentioned about him was a comment that first surfaced 15 years ago. And you opened the door to that by saying that Republicans engaged in fairer, classier debate tactics.

2. A "It's not my fault, I didn't do it, Lil' Johnny did, honestly teacher, I wasn't going to actually throw the shit I just pulled out of my diaper, Hangman did it".

No, I'm merely telling the truth. I never referred to Bush's Presidency as "America held hostage." By contrast, Hangman did, and I called him out for that. Sorry that your memory has failed you here, apparently.

3. Your first reaction to ANYTHING, has been Palin. Most libs hate her, because she is vocally "Pro-Life". Women's groups hate her for that. A strong willed, professional, independent woman who is "Pro-Life". Fuck her accomplishments. She's Pro-Life. That's the primary motivation behind the character assassination attempted during and after the election. You know it, I know it, so don't even try to bullshit that it's anything different.

Swing and a miss. Big time.

I'm pretty sure I haven't mentioned Palin since the election, until now. As for her accomplishments, what exactly are they? Mayor of a town about the size of the small town I live in, followed by two years as Governor of one of the nation's least populous states. And she's had her fair share of problems there. But don't take my word for it. Google Walt Monegan, then get back to me.

And if you think she was pilloried because she's pro-life, you're either an idiot or blinded by your partisanship. Palin was dumb as a box of rocks, and that, not her pro-life stance, was the reason she came in for the criticism she did. Reportedly, she thought Africa is a country rather than a continent.

Don't believe me? Check out this video, hardly from a flaming liberal source:

[War Wagon]

That "worst president ever" gloss must really sting you libs, eh?

Nah, mostly I think you just look awfully silly throwing it around at this point in his presidency.

I've never said or wrote that and you look "awfully silly" stating that I have. I've also never used his name in a racist or perjorative manner. I call him Obama, or at the very worst, the current occupant. I dare you to do a search of my posts and prove different.

I respect the office and I respect the collective wisdom and power of the American electorate. He's the POTUS, period. Doesn't matter if I like it, I'll live with it. I lived with Clinton, I'll survive Obama.

In fact, I've stated on more than one occasion that most legitimate historians I've read have stated that you can't fairly evaluate any President until 25 years after he has left office.

On that we agree.

[Mr T]

Yeah T-bag, we already covered that.

Try pulling your head out your ass for once and pay the fuck attention to what's going on for a change.

Will do Softball Dad. Do you rub your daughter's legs after the games? Sorry if you have already covered that question but you know how i dont fucking pay attention

[trev]

Hey Terry, at least Sarah hasn't thanked herself in a speech. Yet.