Kate Steinle's killer walks.

[Left Seater]

So enlighten us Mikey. Why was this jury correct? There doesn’t seem be be any doubt that this criminal alien pulled the trigger. What reasons would there be to not at least convict him of involuntary manslaughter?

This sure seems to be a politically motivated decision from where the rest of the country sits.

Who the fuck do you think you are? Did you review all the evidence? Did you sit on the jury? Why do you hate the jury system?

Have you EVER served on a jury? Or are you one of those asswipes who feels he's too important to serve on a jury and tries to evade jury duty at all costs?

I asked a question. Something you should do more of in your line of work. Everyone here wants to skirt this IM discussion.

As for jurries I have served on three. Have not been selected on four other occasions.

Go fuck yourself and answer the question.

[Mikey]

And you know this because you were at the trial? Because you examined all of the evidence? Or just because your molester in chief told you so (most likely).

Again, I asked what you knew that the rest of us don’t. Why didn’t IM apply here?

I never claimed to know anything that the rest of you don't. I'm not the one that's disputing the verdict.

What I do know is that you don't know as much as the jury does. Neither does Smackaholic. Neither does Drumpf. So, until you have all the facts (or at least some like the reason IM wasn't considered), you really should STFU.

[atmdad]

So, until you have all the facts (or at least some like the reason IM wasn't considered), you really should STFU.

Really? When has that stopped anyone on this board from posting anything?

[Left Seater]

Again no one is questioning if dude pulled the trigger much less held the weapon. So the jury needs to answer why IM was not in play.

So there are no jury decisions you want an explanation on? I don’t remember you telling those questioning the Zimmerman verdict to shut the fuck up. Or Rodney King, or OJ, or officer Shelby, et al. Good to know you agreed with each of those as well.

[Dinsdale]

So the jury needs to answer why IM was not in play.

Because the jurors don't work for the DA's office?

[Left Seater]

So the jury needs to answer why IM was not in play.

Because the jurors don't work for the DA's office?

Reports I have seen said IM was an option so if true the DA put that out there. Why they didn’t find that way is on the jury.

[Dinsdale]

I'm pretty sure I didn't see you bring up jury nullification when a bunch of armed rebels were acquitted after they forcibly took over public property and threatened to shoot employees who were doing their job. A lot of that evidence was publicly available on audio and video.

Why don't you link us up to that audio and video of them threatening employees "doing their job"

I'll help you out -- The Maheur Refuge was closed at the time (they take a holiday break). The 'occupiers" did no such thing.

Funny you bring that case up, though, since there's similarities, and the locals here decried it then. While what you clacked out is complete and utter bullshit, there is actual evidence of them breaking and entering locked offices.

The dumbass prosecutor (federal) decided to not prosecute them for their obvious crimes (impossible to refute), but rather pushed some ridiculous conspiracy charges that were impossible to prove (but fairly easy to disprove).

[Screw_Michigan]

Hey ball lickers---

https://www.redstate.com/sarah-rumpf/20 ... inle-case/

[Left Seater]

Hey ball lickers---

https://www.redstate.com/sarah-rumpf/20 ... inle-case/

So according to that story no one disputes dude held the gun that killed the young lady. So why no IM?

[Dinsdale]

So why no IM?

Is reading hard for you?

It's explained at the end of the article.

[Left Seater]

So why no IM?

Is reading hard for you?

It's explained at the end of the article.

The end of the article where questions are asked? I see a writer taking a guess. But no facts. Is comprehension difficult for you?

[Moving Sale]

Hey ball lickers---

https://www.redstate.com/sarah-rumpf/20 ... inle-case/

So according to that story no one disputes dude held the gun that killed the young lady. So why no IM?

Probably the "so different from the way an ordinarily careful person would act in the same situation" language in the jury instructions.

[Mikey]

OK. Time to put all this stuff aside for a while.

CFB starts in 40 minutes. There will be no politics for approximately the next 30 hours.

[smackaholic]

Tucker is interviewing Sessions about this matter. Looks like Cali. and the feds fukked this up.

The feds had him in custody. Cali asked them to hand him over to prosecute him on state charges.

They did.

When the state was done with him they cut him loose even though they knew the feds wanted him back.

Nice job Cali. YOU killed that woman as surely as if you pulled the trigger yourself.

Fukk them and fukk the rest of you shitstains that are for letting illegal aliens run loose because it helps you politically at the state/local level.

[Joe in PB]

I don't see how it helps Democrats politically since I presume illegal aliens can't vote.

As a Californian I cannot vote Democrat in any state election, they do not represent citizens and only seem to want to raise taxes and take away rights.....unless you're an illegal alien.

A suicidal platform......

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[Screw_Michigan]

Illegals have been voting for years, it's how counties like Sam Diego have 140% of their registered voters vote in elections. And then all the anchor babies they shit out vote dimocuck as well

Keep melting, jerkoff

[Derron]

What's the deal with Screwy & Goobs giving each other such frequent reacharounds nowadays? I thought the fags were funnier when they fought.

Yeah, kind of reminds you of the old gals in the nursing home fighting about the TV program and ramming their wheel chairs into each other.

[Derron]

I hope she was a lib.

The dead hoar was my friend's (the blonde from the lesbian wedding) roommate and was a known thief and all around cunt, but I don't know her political leanings.

It would be understandable that such a decision would be beyond you. If she was a known thief and all around cunt then it is very clear that she is a left leaning liberal Democrat who like eating pussy and ended up getting whacked. What more do you need to prove political leanings ??

[Derron]

I'll help you out -- The Maheur Refuge was closed at the time (they take a holiday break). The 'occupiers" did no such thing.

It was still enough for the Feds and some black ops people to gin up some story about Lavoy reaching for a gun and then blowing him away.

[Dinsdale]

It was still enough for the Feds and some black ops people to gin up some story about Lavoy reaching for a gun and then blowing him away.

We must have watched entirely different video. The one I saw (you know, the real one) clearly showed LeVoy The Fucking Idiot reaching towards his waistband... twice[/Fubu].





Suicide by cop. Which doesn't excuse the FBI agents lying about their actions after the fact.

[Moving Sale]

It was still enough for the Feds and some black ops people to gin up some story about Lavoy reaching for a gun and then blowing him away.

Good guys with guns and all that.

[Dinsdale]

What reasonable person has ever described him as a "good guy with a gun"?


Take all the time you need.

[Moving Sale]

I was posting to Duhron, he doesn't think the worm dirt guy had a gun.
Try and keep up.

[Derron]

I was posting to Duhron, he doesn't think the worm dirt guy had a gun.
Try and keep up.

Where did I say that you fucking moron ?? No doubt Lavoy had a gun and going for it was a fatal mistake. The whole thing was still a set up, and if Lavoy had not gone for his waistband he would still be alive. Everything leading up to that was a complete ginned up shit show.

[Moving Sale]

Sorry I don't speak stupid so I figured ginned up meant what normal people think it means. My comment still stands. Your good guy with a gun mentality is idiotic, just like you.

[smackaholic]

I don't see how it helps Democrats politically since I presume illegal aliens can't vote.

As a Californian I cannot vote Democrat in any state election, they do not represent citizens and only seem to want to raise taxes and take away rights.....unless you're an illegal alien.

A suicidal platform......

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First off, some of them vote anyway. Who gives a fukk if it is illegal. Being there is illegal. Second, they don't stay illegal forever. And they're kids are legal. They'll vote eventually.


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[Left Seater]

You are missing the point Holic. See Midget and others have argued that just being here as an undocumented alien isn’t illegal, despite proof of the contrary.

But since they don’t think just being here undocumented is breaking any laws, they can then vote, also with out breaking any laws.

[Derron]

Second, they don't stay illegal forever. And they're kids are legal. They'll vote eventually.

Really ?? So yesterday in front of me at the post office is this Hispanic woman. Probably about 27 or so, you know one of those dreamers every body fawns about. She had gotten out of a nice blinged out Escalade. Good looking, well dressed. She gave an address that was the local shit hole trailer court where they all live in single wides and drive Cads, Beams and the like.

When the clerk asked her a question, it was me no speak English and they had to have the in house Hispanic come up and translate of course. So if she was one of these "dreamers" and not some fresh off the coyote wagon illegal, why no speakee English after all that time ?? She picked up her large package and got back in the Escalade and drove off. Things that make you go hmmmm.

[Dinsdale]

She gave an address that was the local shit hole trailer court

Tongue Lane?

[Moving Sale]

You are missing the point Holic. See Midget and others have argued that just being here as an undocumented alien isn’t illegal, despite proof of the contrary.

But since they don’t think just being here undocumented is breaking any laws, they can then vote, also with out breaking any laws.

All of the laws I cited and the USSC opinions say you are full of shit, but keep toeing the party line you stupid orange fuck.

[Screw_Michigan]

Really ?? So yesterday in front of me at the post office is this Hispanic woman. Probably about 27 or so, you know one of those dreamers every body fawns about. She had gotten out of a nice blinged out Escalade. Good looking, well dressed. She gave an address that was the local shit hole trailer court where they all live in single wides and drive Cads, Beams and the like.

When the clerk asked her a question, it was me no speak English and they had to have the in house Hispanic come up and translate of course. So if she was one of these "dreamers" and not some fresh off the coyote wagon illegal, why no speakee English after all that time ?? She picked up her large package and got back in the Escalade and drove off. Things that make you go hmmmm.

Nobody believes you

[BSmack]

Nice to see Derron bringing back the old Welfare Queen trope. It makes me feel like it's 1980 again.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

It makes me feel like it's 1980 again.

Goober's retirement party. Good times.

[LTS TRN 2]

Having closely watched this fiasco play out since its very surprising occurrence in 2015--at that particular tourist spot in the middle of a sunny day--I can say without hesitation that after living here for several decades this is the first time I'm simply ashamed of S.F.'s progressive character run amok. An absolutely disgraceful display of jury nullification--enabled and encouraged by the S.F. DA office choosing to pursue the absurd charge of 1st degree murder. But the 2nd degree as well as Involuntary manslaughter were of course plainly available--and proper evidence was introduced to support either of these charges.

So what actually happened? Suffice to say the assistant DA and his attorneys assigned to this case were Hispanic. And the lead defense attorney, Mr. Matt Gonzalez, is a long time fixture of the hardline progressive contingency in S.F.--which is like Che with dildo up his ass--and he was in top form. He was almost mayor a while back.

The perp won't be out anytime soon, as the felony of gun possession with his record will get a 10 spot, though the feds are apparently ready to step in and fuck things up.

Oh, this just in from Baghdad By The Bay, a semi truck filled with holiday party gear just plowed into a toll booth on the Bay Bridge, killing a toll booth lady (46, Chinese) and taking out five cars. Truck driver arrested, DUI and vehicular etc. I don't think he's Hispanic, however, and so he's probably...gulp!...a citizen, and so he'll get twenty.

[Dinsdale]

jury nullification

That sooooooo doesn't mean what you think it means.

[Rooster]

Having closely watched this fiasco play out since its very surprising occurrence in 2015--at that particular tourist spot in the middle of a sunny day--I can say without hesitation that after living here for several decades this is the first time I'm simply ashamed of S.F.'s progressive character run amok. An absolutely disgraceful display of jury nullification--enabled and encouraged by the S.F. DA office choosing to pursue the absurd charge of 1st degree murder. But the 2nd degree as well as Involuntary manslaughter were of course plainly available--and proper evidence was introduced to support either of these charges.

So what actually happened? Suffice to say the assistant DA and his attorneys assigned to this case were Hispanic. And the lead defense attorney, Mr. Matt Gonzalez, is a long time fixture of the hardline progressive contingency in S.F.--which is like Che with dildo up his ass--and he was in top form. He was almost mayor a while back.

The perp won't be out anytime soon, as the felony of gun possession with his record will get a 10 spot, though the feds are apparently ready to step in and fuck things up.

Oh, this just in from Baghdad By The Bay, a semi truck filled with holiday party gear just plowed into a toll booth on the Bay Bridge, killing a toll booth lady (46, Chinese) and taking out five cars. Truck driver arrested, DUI and vehicular etc. I don't think he's Hispanic, however, and so he's probably...gulp!...a citizen, and so he'll get twenty.

Whoa. An illegal kills an American on US soil and gets off relatively scot-free with 10 years in the slammer, but an American kills a toll booth worker with a truck and is going to get sent off to Corcoran for 20? Where’s the justice in that? Any chance the guy can give up his US citizenship and get that sentence cut in half?

[Derron]

She gave an address that was the local shit hole trailer court

Tongue Lane?

That one is an equal shit hole, I hear the cops going on wife beater calls there about once a week. The one that I was referring to is Rose Grove Mobile in Forest Grove. Where those who drive Chrysler 300s, Beamers and such live in single wides with their baby mamas who get public assistance and the dudes sling dope. Cops roll in there about 2 to 4 times a day on various calls and warrant hooks.

The number of these types of shit hole trailer courts has declined in your area since real estate values have allowed them to kick the residents out and redevelop. We could only be so lucky in our area.

[LTS TRN 2]

jury nullification

That sooooooo doesn't mean what you think it means.

It means the jury has a clear understanding that some social justice factor is in play and the verdict will be Not Guilty, regardless of the evidence.

Do you have some other practical definition?

The jurors in this fiasco were granted an unprecedented cloak of anonymity right away. The only difference in this jury nullification case is that the DA was in full compliance.

[Bucmonkey]

It makes me feel like it's 1980 again.

Goober's retirement party. Good times.

[smackaholic]

Having closely watched this fiasco play out since its very surprising occurrence in 2015--at that particular tourist spot in the middle of a sunny day--I can say without hesitation that after living here for several decades this is the first time I'm simply ashamed of S.F.'s progressive character run amok. An absolutely disgraceful display of jury nullification--enabled and encouraged by the S.F. DA office choosing to pursue the absurd charge of 1st degree murder. But the 2nd degree as well as Involuntary manslaughter were of course plainly available--and proper evidence was introduced to support either of these charges.

So what actually happened? Suffice to say the assistant DA and his attorneys assigned to this case were Hispanic. And the lead defense attorney, Mr. Matt Gonzalez, is a long time fixture of the hardline progressive contingency in S.F.--which is like Che with dildo up his ass--and he was in top form. He was almost mayor a while back.

The perp won't be out anytime soon, as the felony of gun possession with his record will get a 10 spot, though the feds are apparently ready to step in and fuck things up.

Oh, this just in from Baghdad By The Bay, a semi truck filled with holiday party gear just plowed into a toll booth on the Bay Bridge, killing a toll booth lady (46, Chinese) and taking out five cars. Truck driver arrested, DUI and vehicular etc. I don't think he's Hispanic, however, and so he's probably...gulp!...a citizen, and so he'll get twenty.

OK, who stole Let's turd's pword? That was a very reasonable post.

As for toll collectors getting killed, being a very regular user of Mass toll roads, I have to ask, WTF do you still have toll booths?

Mass doesn't get much right, when it comes to the roads, but tearing down all the toll booths a year or so ago and going to EZ Pass/license plate reader, bill you by mail, is awesome.

Don't get me wrong, driving anywhere inside 495 still sucks shit through a straw, but losing the booths has helped a lot. I can't imagine a state like cali that thinks it is cutting edge on everything, hasn't done it yet.