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Pretty sure Vance uses mascara and eyeliner. Regularly.

Waltz seems to be a little slow and confused.

Like it matters what they say.
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CBS m0ds "fact checking."

:meds:


CBS tilting the table with their questions -- and now losing control of the debate with their garbage.
lol

Up to this point, Vance has had Walz on the defensive.
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Walz' responses so far:
But what about Trump?
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Poptard is annoyed that they use journalists to moderate the debate. Journalists are doing their jobs.

Poptart wants game show hosts to ‘just ask questions’ to moderate the debate.
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Bill in Houston wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:44 am Poptard is annoyed that they use journalists to moderate the debate. Journalists are doing their jobs.

Poptart wants game show hosts to ‘just ask questions’ to moderate the debate.
"Fact checking" ought to up to the opposing candidate on the state, not by a m0derator stooge.
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Softball Bat wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:58 am
Bill in Houston wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:44 am Poptard is annoyed that they use journalists to moderate the debate. Journalists are doing their jobs.

Poptart wants game show hosts to ‘just ask questions’ to moderate the debate.
"Fact checking" ought to up to the opposing candidate on the state, not by a m0derator stooge.
Why?
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I've gone on factcheck.org a lot of times, and I have seen that they are often totally full of sh!t.

So if some TV talking head sits there as a debate m0d and claims that they are the lord of "fact," I laff.

Comedy show.
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Dammit, Roach, I can't unsee the eyeliner now.

These m0derators are political operatives. Props to Walz and Vance for having a good debate. I appreciate the tone on the stage but the tone at the moderator table is absolute shit.
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Softball Bat wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:14 am I've gone on factcheck.org a lot of times, and I have seen that they are often totally full of sh!t.

So if some TV talking head sits there as a debate m0d and claims that they are the lord of "fact," I laff.

Comedy show.
You’re not smarter than the moderators.

The moderators are not claiming they are lord of fact. See what I did there?

Can you detect and call out BS? Sure. So can others. They have a responsibility to do so.
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Bill in Houston wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:19 am
Softball Bat wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:14 am I've gone on factcheck.org a lot of times, and I have seen that they are often totally full of sh!t.

So if some TV talking head sits there as a debate m0d and claims that they are the lord of "fact," I laff.

Comedy show.
You’re not smarter than the moderators.
Disagree. Fuck, even you are smarter than these bitches. Being a journalist doesn't make you smart, it makes you tactical.
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Neither candidate badly wet the bed, so this debate will be mostly forgotten.
People don't vote based on a VP.

The m0ds sucked.

Despite m0ds "subtly" tilting questions to favor the Dim candidate, Walz found himself on defense more than Vance did.
Rightfully so, seeing as the Bidet & Harris administration has an awful lot to answer for.
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Softball Bat wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:48 am Rightfully so, seeing as the Bidet & Harris administration has an awful lot to answer for.
There is no way to defend the dangerous ineptness of the current administration. Walz had a lot to overcome.
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poptart wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:33 am CBS m0ds "fact checking."

:meds:


CBS tilting the table with their questions -- and now losing control of the debate with their garbage.
lol
This was the moment the CBS hack decided she needed to "fact check" during the debate.
The rules were that there were to be no "fact checks."
So Vance jumped in to "fact check" the stupid m0d, and this is when the the hacks, with their agenda, lost control of the debate.

Yeah, cut his microphone.

Nice going, jackboot.



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Softball Bat wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:33 am CBS m0ds "fact checking."

:meds:


CBS tilting the table with their questions -- and now losing control of the debate with their garbage.
lol

Up to this point, Vance has had Walz on the defensive.
Cockroaches hate it when the lights are turned on...
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I fell asleep before it started, woke up at some point and watched about 2 minutes, and fell asleep again. So I missed it.

From this article, it seems that Vance won the debate by a slight margin, but Walz has gotten a more favorable polling boost.

For those who watched it, is that how you saw it?
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Bill in Houston wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:44 am Poptard is annoyed that they use journalists to moderate the debate. Journalists are doing their jobs.

Poptart wants game show hosts to ‘just ask questions’ to moderate the debate.
You're so conditioned by the corrupt biased media that you are willing to prostrate yourself in here sounding like a tipsy kamala...


CBS News said last week that moderators would not point out or correct inaccurate statements made by Vance or Walz, instead leaving it up to the candidates to fact-check their opponents.
“It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.”
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I was about 500% more interested in the ballgame, and recorded the debate. But I’m thinking I might not get around to watching it. Pretty much a waste of time apparently, but you all have fun hashing it out over the next day or so.
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Vance looked slick, but knocked himself out by not answering questions.

Especially the one as to whether Dump lost the 2020 election.
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Roux wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:19 pm I fell asleep before it started, woke up at some point and watched about 2 minutes, and fell asleep again. So I missed it.

From this article, it seems that Vance won the debate by a slight margin, but Walz has gotten a more favorable polling boost.

For those who watched it, is that how you saw it?
Vance was more polished and precise.
Walz meandered more, and found himself on the defensive on multiple occasions.

Vance won, imo, but I don't think it matters much.

Due to violating the rules of the debate, m0ds again became a story.
The short video I posted shows what happened.
They briefly lost control of the debate.

This is unfortunate, because the two participants were respectful adults throughout the debate, and it would probably be better for the nation if these two were at the top of their respective tickets.
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Softball Bat wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:40 pm
Roux wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:19 pm I fell asleep before it started, woke up at some point and watched about 2 minutes, and fell asleep again. So I missed it.

From this article, it seems that Vance won the debate by a slight margin, but Walz has gotten a more favorable polling boost.

For those who watched it, is that how you saw it?
Vance was more polished and precise.
Walz meandered more, and found himself on the defensive on multiple occasions.

Vance won, imo, but I don't think it matters much.

Due to violating the rules of the debate, m0ds again became a story.
The short video I posted shows what happened.
They briefly lost control of the debate.

This is unfortunate, because the two participants were respectful adults throughout the debate, and it would probably be better for the nation if these two were at the top of their respective tickets.
Very simply it would be better for the nation if candidates for POTUS & VPOTUS were fact-checked live. Most people were disgusted with how the convicted felon was able to blatantly lie w/o any push-back from the m0ds in the Biden-Dump debate.
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Diego, if m0ds are "fact checking" in real time, it opens up a completely unmanageable can of worms.

it is not possible to fact check live because there can too much nuance and context involved in what a candidate might be saying.

If a candidate is lying and bullshitting on stage, it is up to the opponent to call it out -- and then it is up to the viewer to make his own determination as to what is happening.

The job of the m0d is to ask questions and then referee the proceedings to make sure the debate stays on track according to the predetermined rules.
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Diego in Seattle wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:40 pm Very simply it would be better for the nation if candidates for POTUS & VPOTUS were fact-checked live.
I'd want live fact-checking if it were on Fox, Newsmax, or RAV....
“It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.”
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The Seer wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:38 pm
Diego in Seattle wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:40 pm Very simply it would be better for the nation if candidates for POTUS & VPOTUS were fact-checked live.
I'd want live fact-checking if it were on Fox, Newsmax, or RAV....
And there's 787 million reasons why it shouldn't be.
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The Seer wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:38 pm
Diego in Seattle wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:40 pm Very simply it would be better for the nation if candidates for POTUS & VPOTUS were fact-checked live.
I'd want live fact-checking if it were on Fox, Newsmax, or RAV....
Diego would be singing a completely different tune if the debate had been on FOX and one of the FOX m0ds had decided to all of a sudden "fact check" Tim Walz.
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Softball Bat wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:00 pm
The Seer wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:38 pm
Diego in Seattle wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:40 pm Very simply it would be better for the nation if candidates for POTUS & VPOTUS were fact-checked live.
I'd want live fact-checking if it were on Fox, Newsmax, or RAV....
Diego would be singing a completely different tune if the debate had been on FOX and one of the FOX m0ds had decided to all of a sudden "fact check" Tim Walz.
As I alluded to above, Fox can't be trusted to factually "fact-check."
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None of them can.

You are a partisan.
Objective analysis of political happenings is not currently possible for you.
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Softball Bat wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:36 pm None of them can.
This is just more of the "there's good people on both sides" bullshit, just with a different spin.
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Softball Bat wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:36 pm None of them can.

You are a partisan.
Objective analysis of political happenings is not currently possible for you.
Fukken rack.
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Diego in Seattle wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:47 pm
Softball Bat wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:36 pm None of them can.
This is just more of the "there's good people on both sides" bullshit, just with a different spin.
There’s no way you really believe that CNN or MSNBC can be trusted any more than Fox. They’re just as corrupt and biased.
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Sudden Sam wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 12:11 am
Diego in Seattle wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:47 pm
Softball Bat wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:36 pm None of them can.
This is just more of the "there's good people on both sides" bullshit, just with a different spin.
There’s no way you really believe that CNN or MSNBC can be trusted any more than Fox. They’re just as corrupt and biased.
Okay, I'll be a little more direct...

Do either CNN or MSNBC have a $787 million defamation judgement against them?
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CNN paid millions after defaming a kid who was assaulted by a Native American drumming kook. https://nypost.com/2020/01/07/cnn-settl ... -sandmann/

Another trial is a about to start:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA1ryifT

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I'm sure the party strategy team choreographed how Vance would use soft, dulcet tones in order to lure more womens and other crazy labels from the dims.

Personally I thought Walz was a nervous vulnerable wreck who had basically NOTHING in his quiver and was ripe for attack. A meltdown of epic proportion was denied the public...but then again, they'd probably fix their mistake and change the yard signs to read WALZ to SHAPIRO and capture Pennsylvania.
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Tampon Tim got the shit kicked out of him. he looked like Garth when he was left to run the show on Wayne's World.

I liked when JD was beating his ass thoroughly about how how he has to play "Whack a Mole" with his bs lies about Trump and his whore Communist leader, and Tampon boy's head was darting back and forth , back to the mods over and over "Saveeeee my asssss"
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"You said there would be no fact-checking...WAHHHH!!!!!"

And women aren't going to flock to some misogynistic asshole just because he softened his voice when he insults their intelligence on abortion, saying that he doesn't want a national abortion ban when he's clearly established himself as being a rabid pro-birther in the past.

And that night Dunce refused three times to answer the question as to whether he thought that Trump lost in 2020. That rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, and that was before Jack Smith's Jan 6th filing was released yesterday.

Walz definitely had some missed opportunities, but he didn't say anything that turned reasonable people away from voting for Harris.
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Walz is a normal guy. A hard working teacher who has dedicated his life to service. Of course he was uncomfortable at first, but he eventually relaxed and did well. Vance on the other hand is a smarmy Yale trained lawyer who has never held a real job in his life, lies as easily as he breathes (like Dump), is on the ticket for the benefit of crypto-fascist Peter Thiel and would sell his mother down the river to please Dump.

The one thing Dems screwed up was not training Walz for the gravity of the situation. This election isn't about policy (we hired 20,000 border patrol agents!), it's about defeating evil, fascist asswipes like Dump and Vance who lie to start racist pogroms against immigrants, who want to ban abortions and force women to die to save unviable pregnancies. To create nationwide pregnancy registries to track women and where they travel for their health care.

It's about defeating the awful subhumans who populate this board that proudly support Dump's fascist policies. You people are awful human beings and Walz (and his D handlers) needed to communicate this to the public. Walz act of "Vance and I aren't that different, let's have a beer and settle our differences" was ridiculous. Way to make a pile of human waste like Vance look better.

At the end of it, Walz eventually got the TKO in when Vance wouldn't respond when he was asked if Dump lost the 2020 election. That will be endlessly replayed in campaign ads for the next 30 days.

Fuck Dump and fuck all you piles of human excrement who support him.
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I really hope Screwy will be OK after the election, when Harris-Walz are cast upon the same heap as Clinton-Kaine, Kerry-Edwards, Gore-Lieberman, Dukakis-Bensten and Mondale-Ferraro.
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88BuckeyeGrad wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 1:42 pm I really hope Screwy will be OK after the election, when Harris-Walz are cast upon the same heap as Clinton-Kaine, Kerry-Edwards, Gore-Lieberman, Dukakis-Bensten and Mondale-Ferraro.
He and the other clueless of his ilk WILL be more than OK finding themselves looking around and wondering where all the wars went, why their dollars are going further, crime is down, etc. etc...but not have the decency to thank those of us that made it possible.
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Dunce also clearly established that he has no clue as to what the role of VPOTUS is. He kept saying that the Harris administration hasn't done anything in the last 3 years yet fails to understand the constitutional limitations of power for a VPOTUS.

If he is elected VPOTUS Dunce won't be able to do Jack Shit.
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